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PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. JENNIFER, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[APPROVE MINUTES]
HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. MOTION BY CRAIG.SECOND BY BILL. ALL IN FAVOR? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
JENNIFER, ANY MODIFICATIONS? NONE THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE TWO PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.
[PROCLAMATIONS]
FIRST IS MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK, AND SECOND IS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK.GET ON UP HERE, LADY. I MEANT TO TELL YOU. WE'RE DOING IT.
AND WHEREAS CLERKS UPHOLD FAIRNESS AND NEUTRALITY, SERVING ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY EQUALLY.
AND WHEREAS THEY SERVE KEY SOURCES OF INFORMATION ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JULIE SAYERS, MAYOR OF LENEXA, KANSAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 4TH THROUGH 10TH, 2025, IN THE CITY OF LENEXA TO BE MUNICIPAL CLERKS WEEK AND EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO OUR CITY CLERK, JENNIFER MARTIN, AND ALL THE MUNICIPAL CLERKS FOR THE VITAL SERVICES THEY PERFORM AND THEIR EXEMPLARY DEDICATION TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] SHE'S THE BEST.
AND WHEREAS ACCESS TO QUALITY EMERGENCY CARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY RATES.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, JULIE SAYERS, MAYOR OF LENEXA, KANSAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 18TH THROUGH 24TH, 2025, IN THE CITY OF LENEXA TO BE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO OBSERVE THIS WEEK IN APPRECIATION OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE LENEXA FIRE DEPARTMENT WHO PROVIDE SELFLESS SERVICE AND CARE WITHIN ALL CARE FOR ALL WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
UP NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE 14 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THE CONSENT AGENDA. ALL OF THE ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND APPROVED COLLECTIVELY WITH NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION.IN THE EVENT AN ITEM IS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
ANYONE WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH 14.
SECOND. MOTION BY BILL. SECOND BY MELANIE. ALL IN FAVOR? CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED. ITEM NUMBER 15 TONIGHT IS A CONSIDERATION OF ESTABLISHING PROJECT
[15. Consideration of establishing Project Plan 3I in the City Center Tax Increment Financing District (AdventHealth - Medical Office Building 2 & Parking Garage)]
PLAN THREE. I IN THE CITY CENTER. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT.[00:05:04]
ADVENT HEALTH MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING TWO AND PARKING GARAGE.ITEM 15 A IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ESTABLISHING PROJECT PLAN.
ITEM 15 B IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE PROJECT TIF PLAN THREE I.
ITEM 15 C IS THE APPROVAL OF A DDA WITH THE SHAWNEE MISSION MEDICAL CENTER.
SEAN. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SEAN MCLAUGHLIN, CITY ATTORNEY.
AND I'M HERE TO PRESENT ON A NUMBER OF INCENTIVES THIS EVENING.
THEY ARE ALL RELATED TO THE ADVENT HEALTH CAMPUS.
SO PRIOR TO GOING INTO THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT PLAN, I DID WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND OF HOW WE GOT HERE WITH OUR INCENTIVE PROGRAMS AND THAT CAMPUS. SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THAT'S A MAP OF THE ENTIRE CAMPUS, WHICH I'LL BE REFERRING TO. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 27 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CITY CENTER WE CALL CITY CENTER NORTH.
SO IN 2019, THE CITY APPROVED THE PLANS FOR 27.5 ACRE MIXED USE PROJECT ON THE CAMPUS, INCLUDING MEDICAL OFFICE, RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND SUPPORTING INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS THE HOSPITAL THAT YOU SEE WHICH HAS RECENTLY STARTED TO OPEN.
IN 2019, WE ALSO APPROVED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH SETS FORTH THE SCOPE AND PHASING OF THE MULTI-YEAR PROJECT, AS WELL AS EACH PARTY'S RESPONSIBILITIES. AS PART OF THAT DA WAS CONTEMPLATED THE USE OF PUBLIC FUNDING AND INCENTIVES FOR THE PROJECT TO ENSURE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE APPROVED A SALES TAX, ONLY IRBS FOR THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH YOU HAVE STARTED SEEING BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THAT SOUTH PARCEL RIGHT NOW JUST SOUTH OF THE HOSPITAL BUILDING.
IT'S A 65,000 SQUARE FOOT MLB, AS WELL AS A 465 STALL PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WILL JUST SIT JUST SOUTH OF THE PARCEL OUTLINED ON YOUR MAP. THE TIF HAS AN ELIGIBLE PRIVATE REIMBURSEMENT UP TO 9.8 MILLION, WITH A PROJECTED TIF REVENUE OVER THE 20 YEARS OF 5.7 MILLION. AS I STARTED ALREADY, THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED UP TO 22.6 MILLION IN IRBS FOR THIS PROJECT.
BILL. THANK YOU, SEAN. THOSE TWO NUMBERS, THE 9.8.
ELIGIBLE FOR REIMBURSEMENT, BUT THEN THE REVENUE OF 5.7.
IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH. TELL ME WHAT THOSE TWO NUMBERS ARE.
HOWEVER, THE REVENUE WILL ONLY BE 5.7. WE DO A PAY AS YOU GO.
SO THEY'LL ONLY GET WHAT THE TIF REVENUE COMES IN.
THEY WILL HAVE TO FILL THE GAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO NUMBERS WITH THEIR OWN PRIVATE FINANCING.
SO THE INCENTIVE PROVIDES FUNDING UP TO AS MUCH AS IT GIVES OVER THE 20 YEARS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY. I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IF ANYONE PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM. SIGN IN. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
OKAY. SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION BY CRAIG, SECOND BY COURTNEY. ALL IN FAVOR? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYTHING FROM THE APPLICANT? OH, SORRY. OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL MOTIONS HERE.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TIF PROJECT PLAN THREE I.
SECOND. MOTION BY JOHN MICHAEL. SECOND BY MELANIE.
ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION PASSES. MOTION FOR ITEM 15 C, APPROVE THE DISPOSITION AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SHAWNEE MISSION MEDICAL CENTER. MOTION BY MELANIE. SECOND BY BILL. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES. I'M SORRY, SHOULDN'T THAT HAVE BEEN THREE.
NO. OKAY. THEN WE'RE ALL GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU.
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AND THEN ITEM 16 IS A CONSIDERATION OF ESTABLISHING PROJECT THREE J IN THE CITY CENTER TAX INCREMENT FINANCING DISTRICT.[16. Consideration of establishing Project Plan 3J in the City Center Tax Increment Financing District (Village at City Center North – Mixed-Use Retail & Commercial Project)]
VILLAGE AT CITY CENTER NORTH MIXED USE RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL.ITEM 16 A IS PUBLIC HEARING. ITEM 16 B IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TIF.
ITEM 16 C IS APPROVAL OF THE DDA WITH SHAWNEE MISSION MEDICAL CENTER.
HELLO AGAIN. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. THIS IS PROJECT PLAN THREE J.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TWO PARCELS KIND OF ON THE SOUTH WEST CORNER OF THAT LARGER PARCEL THERE.
IT IS PLANNED TO BE TWO BUILDINGS, A ONE STORY, 9500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AS WELL AS A TWO STORY, 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
ANY QUESTIONS HERE? OKAY, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THERE WAS A LOT OF THOSE.
MOTION BY MARK, SECOND BY CRAIG. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. A COUPLE MOTIONS HERE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE TIF PROJECT PLAN THREE J.
MOTION BY MARK, SECOND BY JOHN MICHAEL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. MOTION FOR 16 C ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DDA FOR WITH SHAWNEE MISSION MEDICAL CENTER.
MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY MARK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES. ITEM 17 ESTABLISHING CONSIDERATION.
[17. Consideration of establishing the Village at City Center North Mixed-Use Retail & Commercial Community Improvement District]
ESTABLISHING THE VILLAGE OF CITY CENTER. MIXED USE RETAIL.COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. ITEM 17 A IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
ITEM 17 B IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE CID. ITEM 17 C IS APPROVAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH CBAH, LLC. SEAN. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THE MIXED USE PROJECT ON THE SAME TWO PARCELS WE JUST SAW FOR THE TIF. I WILL NOTE FROM THE BEGINNING THIS IS WITH A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER.
THE SHAWNEE MISSION WILL OWN THE GROUND AND THAT'S WHY THEY HAD THE TIF ON THE CID.
AND THEY'LL HAVE THE CID INCENTIVE IN THIS SITUATION.
SO SAME PROJECT AS WE JUST HEARD ONE STORY, 9500 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AS WELL AS A TWO STORY, 25,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THOSE TWO PARCELS AS WELL AS ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN THIS CID, THEY'RE PROPOSING A 1.5% SALES TAX CID FOR 22 YEARS.
IT IS PROJECTED TO BE $6.4 MILLION OVER THOSE 22 YEARS.
THE MAXIMUM REIMBURSEMENT IS $8.355 MILLION. DO YOU HAVE.
SORRY, DID I NOT? I THOUGHT I DID THAT. SORRY.
I APOLOGIZE. I WAS LOOKING AT MY SLIDE AND MY SLIDE ON THE PAPER HERE MOVED.
SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO THAT WAS ALL THERE? I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH, LET'S HEAR IT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KEITH COPAKEN WITH THE DEVELOPER.
BRING UP YOUR STUFF HERE. GOOD. YEAH. THANK YOU.
HEY THERE. MAYOR GOVERNING BODY KEITH COPAKEN WITH COPAKEN BROOKS.
I'M ALSO HERE WITH AARON JOHNSON OF OUR OFFICE WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH ME ON THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS CARLA SALA OF STINSON. WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STAFF WITH SEAN AND BECKY.
WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH ADVENTHEALTH AND HAVE A THREE RESTAURANT AND A 9500FT², WELL, ABOUT 11,000FT² OF OFFICE ABOVE THE RESTAURANT CONCEPT IN THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU'VE SEEN.
LET'S SEE, JUST TO KIND OF REFRESH EVERYBODY'S MEMORY AND I'LL BE VERY, VERY QUICK ABOUT THIS.
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WE ARE ON CITY CENTER NORTH, THE ADVENTHEALTH CAMPUS, NORTH OF 87TH STREET.THIS IS THE CORNER BUILDING LOOKING EAST OFF OF 87TH AND SCARBOROUGH ON THE ON THE CORNER.
SO WE HAVE A FIRST TO MARKET STEAKHOUSE THAT WILL TAKE ABOUT 8000FT².
WE HAVE A BREAKFAST CONCEPT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND THEN OFFICE ABOVE.
SAME GENERAL CONCEPT AND, YOU KNOW, WALKABLE AND LANDSCAPED ENVIRONMENT AS WE WALK DOWN SCARBOROUGH AGAIN, LOOKING EAST STEAKHOUSE AND THE BREAKFAST RESTAURANT.
AND AGAIN, FIRST TO MARKET STEAKHOUSE. SO VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE THAT SHORTLY.
LEASE IS NOT SIGNED YET, BUT WE'VE TALKED WITH STAFF ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
IN ADDITION, AS WE WALK FURTHER DOWN SCARBOROUGH 54TH STREET GRILL, FIVE FOUR IS GOING TO BE THE NAME OF THE OF THEIR CONCEPT, BUT IT'S 54TH STREET GRILL. THAT'S THE 9500 SQUARE FOOT CONCEPT THAT WE, THAT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT.
SO WE ARE REQUESTING A 1.5% CID. THE REASONS ARE YOU KNOW, REALLY VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD, AS WE TALKED ABOUT OR YOU SAW BEFOREHAND. THE TIF IS GOING TO PAY FOR ADDITIONAL FOR THE PART OF THE COST OF THE PARKING.
SO THE TIF IS NOT ELIGIBLE OR NOT BEING GIVEN TO US AT ALL.
AND OUR PROJECT HAS TO RELY SOLELY ON THE CID.
AND SO WE ARE REQUESTING AN EXTRA HALF PERCENT BEYOND WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE PERHAPS REQUESTED OF NOTE, AT RESTAURANT ROW, WE RECEIVED A 2% CID. SO THIS IS 1.5%.
SO THAT'S WHY WE APPRECIATE THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. BILL.
NOT A QUESTION, KEITH, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED THE HOSPITAL, AND I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO HAVE IT ON THE WEST SIDE RATHER THAN ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND MY FRIEND TOM NOLTE SAID, NO, WE NEED THAT NICE VIEW AS YOU'RE GOING IN ON THE ROAD. AND THIS JUST WITH THESE RESTAURANTS AND THIS RETAIL BORDERING THAT ROAD. I THINK TOM WAS RIGHT. THIS IS REALLY, REALLY NICE.
AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. I'M SORRY. ALL IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. COURT. I JUST HAD A FEW COMMENTS. I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. I THINK THAT THE CONCEPT PLAN IS GOOD.
I AM NOT A HUGE PROPONENT OF CIDS, AND I THINK THAT WE SET A PRECEDENT LAST TIME WITH THE 2%, AND NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR A ONE AND A HALF, AND WE HISTORICALLY HAVE ONLY DONE A 1% CID.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH. AND SO I WANTED TO BE ON RECORD FOR VOTING NO ON THIS.
BILL. SEAN AND COURTNEY, DID I HEAR YOU SAY WE'VE APPROVED A TWO ON RESTAURANT ROW? ON RESTAURANT ROW? THAT'S CORRECT. THE 2% ON RESTAURANT ROW, WHICH WERE CACTUS GRILL.
IS THAT QUADRANT. GOOD. THANK YOU. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT WAS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, BECAUSE THE PARKING GARAGE WAS PART OF RESTAURANT ROW, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, OR DO I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY? THERE IS A PARKING GARAGE THAT IS PART OF THAT.
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THERE. YEAH, BUT WHAT MR. HAGAN JUST SAID IS THAT THE PARKING GARAGE THIS TIME IS PART OF ADVENT'S TIFF, WHEREAS RESTAURANT ROW INCLUDED THE PARKING GARAGE.THAT IS CORRECT. WHICH? WHICH NECESSITATED THE 2%.
I'M JUST MAKING SURE I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY. WELL, THERE WERE I THINK THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT NECESSITATED THIS 2% IN OUR DISCUSSION. I CAN'T RECALL ALL OF THEM OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION.
YES, BILL. WELL, WE DO EXPECT IN CITY CENTER THAT THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT NICER AND TO A HIGHER, HIGHER FINISH, IF YOU WILL. AND SO THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OR SOME OF THE REASONS ON THE CID TO BEGIN WITH. YEAH. AND IF YOU RECALL FROM THE BEGINNING WHEN I SAID THE DA, PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION OF PUBLIC FINANCING IS TO ENSURE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AS THESE THINGS COME IN VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT IN OTHER PLACES WITHOUT INCENTIVES.
OKAY. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. FIRST MOTION 17 B ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SID.
SECOND MOTION BY CRAIG. SECOND BY MELANIE. ALL IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. MOTION 17C. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN CBH NUMBER ONE, LLC. MOTION BY MARK, SECOND BY MELANIE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS THIS EVENING. ANY COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS?
[COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS]
YES, MELANIE. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO FORMALLY ANNOUNCE THAT I CHOSE NOT TO RUN FOR REELECTION THIS YEAR. AND THAT IS A DECISION THAT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO COME TO TERMS WITH MOST RECENTLY, IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, COUPLE OF YEARS, I'VE BEEN PULLED IN THE DIRECTION OF WORKING IN THERAPY WITH CHILDREN.AND THERE IS STILL A VERY CLEAR MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS HAPPENING AMONGST YOUTH.
AND IT'S NEW PROJECTS AND OPPORTUNITIES HAVE COME UP FOR ME AS A RESULT.
AND THESE REQUIRE MORE ATTENTION AND TIME ON MY END.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS.
BUT I AM STILL INTENDING TO FINISH MY TERM. THANK YOU.
WELL, WE KNOW WE'LL HAVE A LONG TIME TO SAY GOODBYE, BUT THANK YOU PUBLICLY FOR YOUR SERVICE.
FOR ALL OF YOUR GOOD PERSPECTIVES THAT YOU OFFER TO EVERYTHING THAT WE CONSIDER.
AND WE KNOW THAT YOU'LL STILL BE CHEERING FOR US FROM THE SIDELINES.
ANYTHING ELSE? STAFF REPORTS. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS TONIGHT.
[STAFF REPORTS]
KYLE, FIRST IS GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM.AND WHILE HE'S MAKING HIS WAY UP HERE AND PULLING UP HIS PRESENTATION, I WILL JUST TELL YOU THAT WE WILL HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY EVENING. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KYLE.
HOW'S IT GOING? AWESOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE. KYLE GLASER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANALYST.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
SO, AS BECKY MENTIONED, I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM.
AND SO WE, WE SET THAT UP WITH MIND. AND SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO I JUST HAVE A FEW SHORT SLIDES FOR YOU TO KIND OF GO OVER THE PROGRAM AGAIN ONE MORE TIME, SOME OF THE RESULTS, AND THEN PROPOSE A FEW CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM.
AND I'LL EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO REAL QUICKLY, BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM IN A FEW MONTHS.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR ABOUT QUITE A BIT.
AND SO THIS PROGRAM INITIALLY WAS FUNDED WITH $100,000 IN 2024, AND THEN AGAIN THIS YEAR, ANOTHER $100,000 THIS YEAR FOR THE PROGRAM. AND UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY, ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNERS CAN RECEIVE A REBATE UP TO 75% OF JUST THEIR CITY PORTION OF THE TAX BILL FROM US. AND JUST A REMINDER, THE LENEXA PORTION OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY TAX BILL IS ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE TOTAL.
SO 75% OF THAT IS WHAT'S ELIGIBLE FOR REBATE UNDER THIS PROGRAM.
THE PROGRAM ELIGIBILITY IS BASED ON A FEW THINGS.
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AND TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO CHECK THREE OF THESE BOXES.YOU HAVE TO BE A SENIOR CURRENTLY UNDER THE EXISTING PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO BE A SENIOR 65 PLUS OR A DISABLED VETERAN.
AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A YOU HAVE TO OWN AND OCCUPY YOUR HOME, AND IT HAS TO HAVE AN APPRAISED VALUE UNDER THE CITY MEDIAN FOR THE 2025 PROGRAM, THAT WOULD BE 400,000. IF NO CHANGES WERE TO BE MADE LAST YEAR, THAT WAS ABOUT 390,000.
IN OUR PILOT YEAR, YOU'VE SEEN THIS DATA BEFORE A COUPLE TIMES HOPEFULLY.
BUT THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT WE DID IN THAT IN THAT INITIAL YEAR.
AS YOU AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BACKSTOPS IN PLACE.
IF WE WERE TO GET, A HIGHER THAN EXPECTED APPLICANT TURNOUT.
HOW BIG OUR TARGET POPULATION WAS. AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, LAST YEAR WE REBATED 33 APPLICATIONS, AN AVERAGE REBATE OF $683. SO IF YOU DO THE MATH WE USED ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR BUDGET AND REBATED $22,539.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES. I THINK IT ALL ACTUALLY WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL THIS YEAR.
AND SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND WITH SOME OF OUR PROPOSED CHANGES HERE.
BUT WE MENTIONED THIS IN FEBRUARY WHEN WE REPORTED ON OUR THE DATA FROM, FROM LAST YEAR.
BUT A FEW THINGS THAT WE KIND OF LOOKED AT DOING IS INCREASING THOSE INCOME LIMITS FROM THE VERY LOW INCOME LIMIT THRESHOLD THAT HUD HAS TO JUST THE LOW INCOME. LIKE I SAID, THE VERY LOW INCOME IS 50% OF AREA MEDIAN INCOME LOW IS 80%.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT INCREASING THE MAXIMUM HOME APPRAISAL.
THE AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY HIGHER JUST DUE TO THE DISTRIBUTION OF HOMES IN LENEXA THE AVERAGE IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER, AND THE AVERAGE IS A METRIC THAT HONESTLY IS WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE USING IN THEIRS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A MORE COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD METRIC.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT. AND THEN FINALLY LOWERING THE AGE REQUIREMENT AND VETERAN DISABILITY STATUS LAST YEAR THE PROGRAM WAS TARGETED TO 65 PLUS. AND TO BE A FULLY DISABLED VETERAN, YOU HAD TO YOUR VA AWARD LETTER OF DISABILITY HAD TO BE 100%, WHICH ONE OF THE THINGS WE FOUND IS THAT WAS KIND OF RARE.
HONESTLY, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. EVERY EVERY DISABLED VETERAN IS DIFFERENT AND HAS HAS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT GO INTO THEIR, THEIR AWARD PERCENTAGE. SO TRYING TO DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE WE DID HAVE LAST YEAR, WE HAD ONE DISABLED VETERAN THAT THAT APPLIED FOR THE PROGRAM THAT ULTIMATELY DIDN'T MEET THE REST OF THE CRITERIA.
SO FOR 2025, HERE'S SOME OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES.
AND I'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND EXPLAIN WHY IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
BUT JUST LIKE LAST YEAR, YOU HAVE TO OWN AND OCCUPY YOUR HOME.
THAT'S NOT CHANGING. WE'RE PROPOSING TO LOWER THE AGE, AGE REQUIREMENT TO 62 PLUS.
SO LOWERING THAT THAT AGE A LITTLE BIT OPENS UP OUR APPLICANT POOL.
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SO, THIS YEAR WE'RE PROPOSING TO LOWER THAT DISABILITY PERCENTAGE TO 50%.BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE ONLY WE ONLY REALLY GOT ONE APPLICATION FROM A DISABLED VETERAN LAST YEAR INCREASING THE APPRAISED VALUE FROM MEDIAN TO AVERAGE, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S A METRIC THAT MORE CITIES USE.
AND WE THINK BY INCREASING THAT, WE CAN CAPTURE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SENIOR OR DISABLED VETERANS THAT HAVE POTENTIALLY BEEN IN THEIR HOMES FOR 20, 30, 40 YEARS AND HAVE AS THE COMMUNITY HAS KIND OF GROWN AROUND THEM, HAVE SEEN THEIR, THEIR HOME VALUES RISE. SO JUST CHANGING THAT METRIC THERE INCREASES THAT BY ABOUT 67,000 FOR THIS YEAR.
AND THEN LASTLY MOVING FROM VERY LOW INCOME LIMITS TO THE LOW INCOME LIMITS.
AS I MENTIONED, THE LOW INCOME LIMITS ARE 80% OF, OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
AND THAT'S A KANSAS CITY WIDE METRIC. THE, THE LOW AND VERY LOW, WHEN IT COMES TO HOW OUR SOME OF THE OTHER SURROUNDING CITIES ARE MANAGING THAT PIECE OF IT, IT'S ABOUT HALF AND HALF.
SOME CITIES ARE USING LOW AND SOME, SOME ARE USING VERY LOW.
SO I THINK ALL IN ALL THESE 3 OR 4 CHANGES I EXPECT THAT TO ABOUT TRIPLE OUR APPLICANT POOL.
SO IDEALLY WE GO FROM GRANTING 33 APPLICATIONS TO AROUND 100.
GIVEN THAT 680, I THINK IT WAS $683 AVERAGE REBATE THAT AT 100 APPLICATIONS THAT STILL BRINGS US IN WELL BELOW BUDGET WITH SOME BUFFER THERE. AND SO I THINK THESE PROPOSED CHANGES DO A GOOD JOB OF, AGAIN, SLOWLY KIND OF EXPANDING THAT NET SO THAT WE DON'T BLOW THAT APPLICANT POOL WAY OUT OF THE WATER TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, ANY REBATES, YOU KNOW, INSIGNIFICANT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME EXPANDING IT IN A WAY THAT, THAT WE CAN HAVE MUCH MORE IMPACT WITH THE DOLLARS THAT WE DO HAVE. SO AGAIN, WITH, WITH THE SAME BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR, JUST A FEW CHANGES I THINK CAN HOPEFULLY ABOUT TRIPLE WHAT WE CAN DO.
KYLE, DO WE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT FOLKS APPLYING YEAR AFTER YEAR? IS THERE ANY LIMITATION ON THAT OR CAN PEOPLE REAPPLY THE SAME? THE SAME PEOPLE CAN APPLY YEAR OVER YEAR. SO I EXPECT WORD TO GET OUT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THE THING THAT WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS THE INCOME LIMITS.
OKAY. YEAH. BUT WITH THAT, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
BILL I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, MAYOR.
YOU KNOW, LIKE WE DO ON THE GRANT FOR THE EXTERIOR.
GRANT IS IS THERE A ON THIS? WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE LAST YEAR, BUT IN YEARS TO COME AS PEOPLE APPLIED THIS YEAR, APPLIED NEXT YEAR, APPLIED NEXT YEAR, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO I THINK KEEP GETTING BIGGER.
IS THERE INSTEAD OF EVERYBODY GETTING THEIR FULL 75%? DO WE LOOK AT SOME YEAR IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRORATE.
EVERYBODY'S GOING TO GET 66%. YEP. AND WE DO THAT.
SO I THINK I MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY, BUT IF WE WERE TO GET MORE APPLICATIONS AND NOT EVERYBODY COULD GET THEIR 75%, WE WOULD PRORATE IT SO THAT EVERYBODY ACROSS THE BOARD GOT A PRORATED SHARE UP STILL UP TO THEIR 75%.
SO IT ULTIMATELY DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR TOTAL TAX BILL IS, RIGHT.
THAT 75% IS DIFFERENT HOUSE TO HOUSE. BUT IF WE GOT SO MANY APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAD TO DO THAT, WE DO STILL HAVE THAT BACKSTOP IN PLACE THAT THAT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T CHANGE.
SO, WE LOOK AT EVERYBODY THAT'S APPLIED BY THE DEADLINE, THEN WE START AND YEAH.
AND SO AGAIN THAT WILL RUN AUGUST 1ST THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER.
AND AFTER THAT APPLICATION PERIOD CLOSES, WE'LL TAKE ALL THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE AND GO IN AND DO THE MATH, UP TO 75%. AND IF THAT DOESN'T COVER ALL OUR BUDGET, THEN EVERYBODY WILL GET THE 75%.
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IF THAT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR, WE'LL GO TO THE PRORATED SYSTEM.SO ULTIMATELY IT JUST KIND OF DEPENDS. BUT YEAH, WE DO STILL HAVE THAT BACKSTOP IN PLACE.
THANK YOU. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS. CRAIG. SO WE HAD 100,000 BUDGETED LAST YEAR, DIDN'T USE IT ALL.
WHERE IS THAT MONEY? IS IT ROLLED OVER INTO THIS YEAR? NO. WE STILL HAVE 100,000 THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE THAT MONEY JUST GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT IT'S STILL. YEAH, IT'S STILL $100,000 THIS YEAR.
HEY, KYLE. THANK YOU. ARE WE GOING TO NOTIFY PEOPLE THE SAME WAY WE DID LAST YEAR? YEP, YEP. AND I THINK IT WORKED PRETTY WELL. I'VE ALREADY STARTED TO GET A FEW PHONE CALLS.
THIS YEAR, BECAUSE OUR TIMELINE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BEHIND OTHERS.
BECAUSE WE DO THE AUGUST THROUGH OCTOBER. AND SO PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO SEE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE STARTED PROMOTING THEIR, THEIR PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY THAT HAVE STARTED PROMOTING THEIR PROGRAMS. AND THEN AGAIN, INDIVIDUALS FROM LAST YEAR. SO PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MELANIE. KYLE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, PEOPLE WERE OBVIOUSLY VERY HAPPY. I THINK FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, WE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT JUST HOW TO LAY OUT THE APPLICATION AND THE DOCUMENTS TO ASK FOR AND HOW TO HOW TO ENROLL PEOPLE IN THE SYSTEM.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION IN A TIMELY MANNER.
OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. WE DID GET SOME LETTERS OF THANKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DID TALK TO A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE PHONE JUST TRYING TO WALK PEOPLE THROUGH HOW TO, AGAIN, HOW TO ENROLL IN THE SYSTEM. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT LINE ON THE 1040 ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? YOU KNOW WHAT HOW DO I FILL OUT THE W-9 THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH. APPRECIATIVE. YEAH. YEAH. NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS JOKE THAT UNFORTUNATELY STUCK CAME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL IN THE DEPARTMENT OF KYLE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR WEARING MANY HATS.
I MEAN, BEING ON THE PHONE AND WALKING PEOPLE THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS REALLY MEANS A LOT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH.
MARK, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS.
HOW MANY PEOPLE DID APPLY ALTOGETHER AND ONLY 33 WERE ACCEPTED.
ALTOGETHER, I THINK WE HAD 36 APPLICATIONS. AND AS I MENTIONED, ONE OF THOSE THREE THAT WERE INELIGIBLE WAS A DISABLED VETERAN THAT DIDN'T QUITE MEET THE THRESHOLD. OKAY. SO IT WAS 36. AND THEN AND THEN TWO DIDN'T MEET THE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. JOHN. THANK YOU FOR THIS, KYLE.
JUST PIGGYBACKING OFF OF CHRIS'S QUESTIONS, HOW WERE FOLKS ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT THE PROGRAM? IT WAS LARGELY TOWN TALK. THERE WAS THERE WAS SOME SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE ALSO HAD A PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE. E-NEWSLETTERS.
YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. SO A LOT OF OUR KIND OF NORMAL KIND OF COMMUNICATION CHANNELS.
AND SO I'M HOPING THAT IN ANOTHER YEAR, MORE PEOPLE JUST KIND OF CATCH ON THROUGH SOME OF THAT STUFF IN ADDITION TO THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW ABOUT IT LAST YEAR AND EITHER APPLIED OR DIDN'T APPLY. BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO THIS YEAR AND I'VE, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THIS YEAR AGAIN THAT ARE, THAT ARE CALLING AND ASKING THAT, THAT WEREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR LAST YEAR. THAT COULD BE THIS YEAR.
I'M NOT POSITIVE, BUT THAT COULD BE THIS YEAR FOR SOME OF THESE CHANGES.
AWESOME. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HIT ALL OF THE SAME CHANNELS THAT WE NORMALLY DO.
DO WE HAVE A SENSE FOR WHETHER THERE WERE LIKE, UNTAPPED POTENTIAL APPLICANTS THAT JUST DIDN'T KNOW? OR ARE WE ASSUMING THAT MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT COULD HAVE DID? YEAH. I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POTENTIAL. I WOULD SAY THAT OUR WHEN I, WHEN I LOOKED AT HOW MUCH OTHER CITIES WERE DOING I THINK BASED ON OUR KIND OF ESTIMATED POPULATION, OUR USAGE IS ABOUT THE SAME AS WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING.
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OF WHAT THAT KIND OF TOTAL POOL LOOKS LIKE. WITH OUR, WITH OUR USAGE.AND IT WAS SO LIMITED LAST YEAR THAT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO, TO CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE REALLY, REALLY NEEDED IT. SO AWESOME.
THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M SORRY I KEEP BOTHERING YOU. HOW DO WE STACK UP COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE FUNDING THIS PROGRAM? IT'S PRETTY SIMILAR. SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE, HAVE DONE IT A LITTLE BIT LARGER.
YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY DOES IT KIND OF SOME COMBINATION OF REALLY THE SAME CRITERIA? I WOULD SAY THE 62 OR 65 PLUS AND DISABLED VETERAN IS A IS A COUNTY THING.
AND THEY THIS YEAR THEY HAD A CAP LAST YEAR THAT THEY, THAT THEY REMOVED THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FUND AS MANY APPLICATIONS AS THEY WOULD HAVE LIKED. BUT, BUT I THINK, AGAIN, FOR, FOR WHAT OUR CRITERIA IS AND WHO WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET WITH THIS PROGRAM OUR FUNDING LEVEL IS, IS IN A GOOD PLACE. AWESOME. THANK YOU. YEP. YEAH.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU. CLARIFY FOR ME THE VETERAN THAT DIDN'T QUALIFY LAST YEAR WITH THESE CHANGES, WOULD HE OR SHE QUALIFY THIS YEAR? THEY WOULD.
OKAY. AND A SUGGESTION KIND OF TO PIGGYBACK ON JOHN.
HAVE WE CONSIDERED LIKE, HAVING AN OPEN HOUSE OR LIKE A BOOTH AT ONE OF OUR FESTIVALS OR SOMETHING.
AND SO WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S I MEAN, CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE PROBABLY CAN.
YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU. OH OKAY.
THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY WITH THOSE FEW ADJUSTMENTS, WE'LL GET A LARGER POOL THIS YEAR.
YEP. THAT'S THE GOAL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, KYLE.
AND MAYOR, WE'LL PLAN TO BRING A AMENDMENTS TO THE POLICY THAT APPLIES TO THIS PROGRAM FORWARD.
YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THOSE AT YOUR 20TH MEETING. SOUNDS GOOD.
UP NEXT IS MR. SCHOOLEY WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
BATTERY BACKUP PILOT PROGRAM. HELLO, SIR. HELLO.
GOOD. WELL, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNING BODY, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION TO YOU ABOUT A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
ARE WE STARTING ON QUESTIONS? OKAY. LET'S SEE.
THAT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION. DID YOU GUYS ENJOY THAT? ALL RIGHT. LET'S START THERE. ALL RIGHT. THERE WE GO.
THIS IS A LITTLE PILOT PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.
AND IT'S REALLY A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEM THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THAT WE FOUND SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
IN THE CITY OF LENEXA, WE HAVE 83 TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE OPERATE AND MANAGE.
OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE POWER OUTAGES, AS YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
SOMETIMES THEY LAST FOR A FEW MINUTES, SOMETIMES THEY'LL LAST FOR SEVERAL HOURS.
AND WE'VE HAD OCCASIONS WHERE THEY'VE LASTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS, WHICH OF COURSE CAN CREATE SOME REAL PROBLEMS WITH OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND FLOW OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE COMMUNITY. SO WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEM ON THOSE SIGNALS, THEY GO DARK.
AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING TO HAPPEN.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS THAT WE CAN USE. THERE'S DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. THE BATTERY BACKUPS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, PORTABLE GENERATORS TAKES A WHILE TO BRING THOSE OUT AND GET THOSE DEPLOYED ON SITE.
STANDBY GENERATORS CAN BE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE.
WE'VE LOOKED AT HYDROGEN FUEL CELLS WHICH IS KIND OF A NEW TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT'S NOT QUITE THERE.
AND SOLAR IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED, BUT IT ONLY WORKS DURING THE DAY.
SO SOME OF THE OLDER BATTERY BACKUP SYSTEMS THAT WE'VE HAD AND HAVE BEEN USING USED LEAD ACID BATTERIES, AND THESE ARE THE TYPE OF BATTERIES YOU HAVE IN YOUR CAR.
THEY DON'T LAST VERY LONG. THEY DON'T GIVE US VERY MUCH RUNTIME ON OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
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THEY HAVE A RELATIVELY SHORT LIFE ABOUT 3 TO 5 YEARS AND THEN SO THE BATTERIES NEED TO BE REPLACED.THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED, AND IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE THOSE SYSTEMS. AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS A NEW SYSTEM USING LITHIUM ION IRON PHOSPHATE BATTERIES.
AND THERE'S A WHICH PROVIDE SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER RUN TIME.
THE BATTERIES THAT WE'RE USING WILL GIVE US UP TO 24 HOURS OF RUNTIME ON A SMALLER TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
THE BATTERIES WILL LAST FOR 12 TO 15 YEARS. THEY'VE GOT A 12 YEAR WARRANTY, THEIR UL RATED.
UM THEY'RE DESIGNED TO OPERATE FOR 3 TO 5000 CYCLES.
SO YOU CAN DRAIN THEM DOWN AND RECHARGE THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.
AND THEN WE'RE USING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT CONTROL SYSTEM, IT'S MADE BY VICTRON.
AND THE REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS IS THE REAL TIME MONITORING.
HERE'S SOME SLIDES THAT SHOW THE MONITORING THAT THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE FROM THE CONTROLLER.
RIGHT NOW, IF A STORM BLOWS THROUGH, WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF SIGNALS THAT THAT GO INTO FLASH.
WE'VE GOT SIGNALS THAT ARE ON OUR BATTERY BACKUP.
WE DON'T HAVE A REAL GOOD WAY TO BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY THE STATUS OF EVERY SIGNAL.
WHICH ONES ARE ON BATTERIES, WHICH ONES WE NEED TO BE ADDRESSING WHICH ONES HAVE RETURNED TO REGULAR COMMERCIAL POWER? AND HOW TO REALLY DEPLOY OUR RESOURCES DURING THOSE TIMES TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE AND KEEP OUR SIGNALS OPERATING.
SO THIS WILL REALLY GIVE US SOME, SOME GREAT DATA AND INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE, THOSE SITUATIONS MUCH BETTER. SO THIS IS THE SETUP THAT WE, THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S AT MARSHALL AND PFLUMM. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FOR THE PICTURES HERE.
THE AREA IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITH SOME WORK THAT'S GOING ON FOR AN UPCOMING KDOT PROJECT.
BUT THE GRAPH HERE SHOWS THE OPERATION OF, OF THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT'LL WORK.
THE ORANGE BARS THAT GO ALONG THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH ARE THE POWER THAT'S BEING USED BY THE SIGNAL TO OPERATE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO THAT'S CONSTANT ALL THE TIME.
WE NEED A BUNCH OF POWER TO KEEP THESE SIGNALS OPERATING.
AND THE BLUE LINE ON THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE CAPACITY OF THE BATTERIES.
AND IT DOESN'T SHOW 100% BECAUSE OF WHERE WE STARTED, BUT THAT THE BATTERY CAPACITY HERE AS WE START AT MIDNIGHT IS AT ABOUT 80%. SO ASSUMING WE LOST POWER SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT THAT TREND TENDS TO GO DOWN FOR THE FOR THE CAPACITY OF THE BATTERIES TO A POINT TO WHERE THE SUN COMES OUT EARLY IN THE MORNING. AND THESE GREEN BARS ARE NOW REPRESENT THE SOLAR POWER THAT WE GET FROM THE SOLAR PANELS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED AT THIS LOCATION. AND THEY RECHARGE THE BATTERIES THROUGHOUT THE DAY TO GET THEM BACK TO A LEVEL TO WHERE THEN THE SUN GOES DOWN.
THE BATTERIES DEPLETE AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE EVENING.
THE OTHER THING, AND REALLY THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE, IS TO GET THE LONGEST RUNTIME WE COULD WITH OUR SYSTEM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN OPERATE THROUGH A MAJOR POWER OUTAGE.
BUT WHAT WE DISCOVERED IS THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ALLOW THOSE BATTERIES TO DEPLETE A LITTLE BIT.
SO IF WE START, SAY, IN THE IN THE AFTERNOON HERE WITH THE BATTERIES FULLY CHARGED AT 100% AND THE SUN GOES DOWN, THOSE BATTERIES THEN DEPLETE THROUGHOUT THE DAY THROUGHOUT THE EVENING TIME.
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AND THE ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT ON THIS GRAPH IS THAT WE'RE WE HAVE GRID POWER AVAILABLE.BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THE GRID POWER IS ACTUALLY SHOWN IN THESE BLACK BARS HERE.
BUT IF WE ALLOW THOSE BATTERIES TO DEPLETE A LITTLE BIT OVERNIGHT, WE CAN UTILIZE THE ENERGY THAT WE'VE CAPTURED FROM THE SUN WITH THE SOLAR PANELS AND ALLOW THAT TO RUN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT TILL ABOUT 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THEN THE THEN WE'LL USE GRID POWER TO OPERATE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
SO WE'VE BEEN OPERATING LIKE THIS AT THIS LOCATION FOR ABOUT A MONTH NOW.
AND IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE'VE BEEN VERY THRILLED WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE WITH THIS. IN FACT, I JUST LOOKED AT YESTERDAY OR THAT AT NOON TODAY FOR THE LAST TWO DAYS, WE USED WELL, 87% OF THE POWER THAT WAS USED TO OPERATE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WAS CAPTURED FROM SOLAR ENERGY, AND WE ONLY USED 13% WAS FROM THE GRID.
SO ULTIMATELY, WE EXPECT TO SEE SOME SAVINGS.
THIS WASN'T REALLY. THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT IS TO GENERATE A LOT OF SAVINGS OR MAKE MONEY OR, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVE TO PAY EVERGY. NOBODY'S HERE.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY 3 TO $400 A YEAR OF SAVINGS AT EACH LOCATION.
SO THE SOLAR PANELS THEMSELVES WILL PROBABLY PAY FOR THEMSELVES IN ABOUT 3 TO 4 YEARS.
AND SO WE'LL JUST BE ABLE TO GET LONGER RUNTIME AND SAVE MONEY.
SO OUR PLANNED IMPLEMENTATION IS TO INSTALL ABOUT 30 OF THESE THIS YEAR.
WE HAVE SOME FUNDING THROUGH EQUIPMENT RESERVE FUND.
AND WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ONLY PLANNING ON INSTALLING THE SOLAR WITH ABOUT EIGHT LOCATIONS.
THE SOLAR PANELS AREN'T REAL PRETTY. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS THOSE IN AREAS WHERE THEY WON'T BE IN FRONT OF BUILDINGS OR BUSINESSES INTERCHANGES AND LOCATIONS WHERE WE CAN KIND OF PUT THEM OUT OF THE WAY AND, AND NOT BE TOO OBTRUSIVE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A SUMMARY. I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
ANDREW DRUMMOND WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY FROM MUNICIPAL SERVICES, BUT THEY WERE ALSO VERY HELPFUL IN, IN PUTTING THE PROJECT TOGETHER. SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STEVE. YES. OUR ENERGY MAN. I THOUGHT BILL WAS GOING TO JUMP IN.
THANK YOU. A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THE ARE YOU BUILDING OR HAVE THE INTENTION OF BUILDING KIND OF A MICROGRID TO CONNECT ALL OF THESE LIGHTS, OR ARE THERE GOING TO JUST BE ISLANDED.
EACH SIGNAL HAS ITS OWN POWER CONNECTION FOR ENERGY.
BUT WE DO HAVE THEM ALL INTERCONNECTED WITH OUR FIBER NETWORK.
SO WE COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS THROUGH OUR FIBER SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.
SO NO MICROGRID? NO, NOT AS FAR AS FOR POWER.
FOR THE FOR THE THEY'RE KIND OF DISTRIBUTED FAR APART TO MAKE THAT WORK.
GOTCHA. ARE THE ARE THE CAMERAS INTEGRATED THE CAMERAS AT THE INTERSECTIONS, OR ARE THEY INTEGRATED WITH THE LIGHTS AS WELL? YEAH, WE UTILIZE THE CAMERAS ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT HISTORY AND SEE HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN OPERATING.
SO THEY AREN'T DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, BUT WE UTILIZE THEM QUITE FREQUENTLY.
LET ME ASK IT A DIFFERENT WAY. WELL, DO THE CAMERAS HAVE BACKUP POWER IN THIS SCENARIO? THE CAMERAS ARE CONNECTED TO BACKUP TO THE BACKUP POWER? YES. SO? SO THE SAME IN SOLAR WOULD POWER BOTH.
THAT IS CORRECT. YES. THOSE CAMERAS ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.
THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT. AND I NEED TO MAKE A LITTLE CORRECTION ON THE CAMERAS.
WE DO HAVE SOME CAMERAS THAT ARE USED FOR DETECTION FOR THE FOR THE SIGNALS.
SURE, SURE. AND ON CYCLING THE, THE BATTERIES HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE THAT THE LIFE.
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IS IT STILL GOING TO BE THE 12 YEAR WARRANTY COVERS THE.WE'RE LETTING THEM I GUESS, DRAIN DOWN OR GO DOWN TO ABOUT 70%.
AND THEN WE'LL RECHARGE THEM AGAIN WHEN THE WHEN THE SUN COMES BACK UP.
SO WE'RE NOT EVEN CYCLING THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN OR EVEN NEAR EVEN 50%.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? OF THE. YOU SAID 83 LOCATIONS TOTAL. IF YOU DO 30 THIS YEAR, IS THE GOAL TO GET THEN ALL 83 ONLINE AT SOME POINT? ABSOLUTELY, YES. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT DO YOU THINK COULD END UP BEING SOLAR? PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT MAYBE 20 OR 30% WOULD BE SOLAR.
SO THE ONES THAT ARE WORKING AND FUNCTIONING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR OUT A WORKING SYSTEM.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE LOOKING AT EITHER SIGNALS WHERE THAT SYSTEM HAS FAILED AND NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, OR THOSE LOCATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE A BACKUP SYSTEM.
I DON'T THINK THIS WAS, BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU APPROVED TONIGHT FOR THE STREET.
YEAH THE NODES, THOSE WERE FROM THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM.
INNOVATIVE EITHER WAY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK TO BRING IT TO US.
CERTAINLY. IT'LL BE EXCITING. GREAT. THANK YOU.
STEVE. ONE MORE QUESTION, I PRESUME, I HOPE YOU DON'T TELL ME I'M WRONG.
I PRESUME THAT THE SYSTEMS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, THE PILOT PROGRAM AND WHAT YOU'LL DO GOING FORWARD ARE ALL COMPATIBLE WITH THE BATTERIES WE JUST APPROVED EARLIER TONIGHT. THAT IS EXACTLY CORRECT.
OKAY. YES. GOOD. THOSE BATTERIES ARE FOR THIS SYSTEM.
YES. CORRECT. THANK YOU. GOTCHA. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU.
STEVE. THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THIS. THANK YOU.
OKAY BEFORE WE END THE RECORDED PORTION OF THE MEETING, I'VE BEEN NEGLIGENT TO RECOGNIZE OUR STUDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IN LENEXA, WE JUST ASK YOU TO PLEASE STAND STATE WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL AND WHAT BRINGS YOU OUT TONIGHT? WE'LL START WITH THESE GUYS OVER HERE ON THE SIDE.
THANK YOU AND CONGRATS TO YOU ALL WHO ARE ABOUT TO GRADUATE.
YOU'RE SO CLOSE. OKAY, THIS DOES END THE RECORDED PORTION OF THE MEETING AND WE WILL HAVE
BUSINESS.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.