7. Ordinance approving a five-year special use permit for a dental office use known as Stay Smiling Orthodontics located at 8706 Bourgade Avenue in the NP-O, Planned Neighborhood Office District

[7. Ordinance approving a five-year special use permit for a dental office use known as Stay Smiling Orthodontics located at 8706 Bourgade Avenue in the NP-O, Planned Neighborhood Office District]

AS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A FIVE-YEAR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DENTAL OFFICE KNOWN AS STAY SMILING ORTHODONTICS, LOCATED AT 8706 BRIGADE AVENUE IN THE NPO PLANNED NEIGHBORHOOD OFFICE DISTRICT. HI, STEPHANIE.

>> HELLO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

STEPHANIE SULLIVAN WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

YOU'LL HEAR FROM ME A FEW TIMES TONIGHT WITH SOME PLANNING ITEMS, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR STAY SMILING ORTHODONTICS.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS AT 8706 BRIGADE AVENUE.

ON THE SCREEN, NOW, YOU'LL SEE THE PROJECT LOCATION IN RELATION TO LENEXA CITY BOUNDARY IN BLACK.

NOW ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE PROPERTY HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED OUTLINE HERE JUST SOUTH OF 87TH STREET PARKWAY AND WEST OF BRIGADE AVENUE.

NOW ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE MAPS.

THE ZONING MAP INDICATES THAT THE PROPERTY IS ZONE NPO, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL OFFICE ZONING DISTRICT, AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES OFFICE AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER USES FOR THIS SITE.

THE PROPOSED USE IS ABOUT A 2,200 SQUARE FOOT ORTHODONTICS OFFICE, WHICH WE CLASSIFY AS A DENTAL CLINIC, AND WE DO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR DENTAL CLINICS IN THE NPO ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.

WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE, AND THE PROPOSED USE ARE ALL COMPATIBLE.

IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING, THERE ARE FOUR TENANTS, THREE OF WHICH, INCLUDING THIS ONE, ARE ACTUALLY DENTAL-TYPE USES.

WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING SPECIAL-USE PERMIT IN THE BUILDING ALREADY.

THE OTHER TENANT, I BELIEVE, IS AN INSURANCE AGENCY, SO THESE ARE ALL OFFICE/MEDICAL TYPE USES, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE COMPATIBLE TO BE WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING TOGETHER.

AS WITH ANY SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST, WE DO REVIEW THE 13 CRITERIA YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE.

THESE ARE ALWAYS DETAILED IN OUR STAFF REPORTS THAT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM FOR YOU.

NUMBER 4 IS THE POTENTIAL DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON NEARBY PROPERTY, AND NUMBER 10 IS TRAFFIC IMPACT.

WITH NUMBER 4, SINCE THERE ARE ALREADY EXISTING DENTAL USES WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING, AND STAFF HAS RECEIVED ZERO COMPLAINTS THAT WE ARE AWARE OF FOR THAT BUILDING AND THOSE TYPES OF USES IN THAT BUILDING, WE BELIEVE THIS WILL NOT CAUSE ANY DETRIMENTAL EFFECT BY HAVING AN ADDITIONAL ORTHODONTICS/DENTAL-TYPE USE IN THIS BUILDING.

AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, THE SITE HAS ADEQUATE ACCESS TO BRIGADE AVENUE, WHICH LEADS TO 87TH STREET PARKWAY, WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL AND HAS ADEQUATE PARKING IN ITS OWN PARKING LOT.

SPEAKING OF THAT PARKING LOT,

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HERE IS THE TABLE THAT BREAKS DOWN THOSE TENANTS AND THE PARKING AS REQUIRED BY CODE, AND THEY ARE ACTUALLY UP BY ONE IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

WITH THAT, STAFF IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE DENTAL CLINIC KNOWN AS STAY SMILING ORTHODONTICS AT 8706 BRIGADE AVENUE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

DO WE HAVE OUR APPLICANT HERE THIS EVENING? ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SIR? ANY DISCUSSION? NO. I DO HAVE JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION.

HOW MANY OPERATORIES DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE IN THE CLINIC?

>> SIX TO SEVEN.

>> SIX, SO THE 11 PARKING SPACES IS DOUBLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDINANCE APPROVING A FIVE-YEAR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR DENTAL OFFICE KNOWN AS STAY SMILING ORTHODONTICS, LOCATED AT 8706 BRIGADE.

>> I MOVE.

>> MOTION BY JOHN MICHAEL. SECOND BY CRAIG. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> THOSE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

NUMBER 8 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING

[8. Ordinance approving a five-year special use permit for a church/place of worship use for The Chapel KC located at 11221 Strang Line Road in the BP-1, Planned Business Park District]

A FIVE-YEAR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CHURCH OR PLACE OF WORSHIP, THE CHAPEL KC, LOCATED AT 11221 STRANG LINE ROAD IN THE BP-1 PLAN BUSINESS PARK DISTRICT. HELLO AGAIN.

>> HELLO AGAIN.

STEPHANIE SULLIVAN AGAIN WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THIS, AS MENTIONED, IS ANOTHER SPECIAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A CHURCH KNOWN AS THE CHAPEL KC, AND THE LOCATION, AS MENTIONED, IS 11221 STRANG LINE ROAD.

NOW YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT SAME BOUNDARY MAP SHOWING THE LENEXA CITY BOUNDARY IN BLACK, AND THE PROJECT LOCATION IS IN THE SOUTHEAST AREA OF LENEXA AS SHOWN WITH THE BLUE STAR ON THE SCREEN.

THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED, AND THE TENANT SPACE IS ROUGHLY IN THAT RED OUTLINE BOX ON THE BUILDING THERE.

THIS IS A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING, AS YOU CAN TELL.

HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT SITE.

THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS FROM STRANG LINE, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS THE FRONT DOOR TO THE TENANT SPACE, WHICH COINCIDENTALLY WAS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A CHURCH USE AS WELL.

SPOILER ALERT, IT IS A CHURCH TO A CHURCH USE.

NOW, ON THE SCREEN, YOU SEE THE ZONING MAP AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

THE ZONING MAP INDICATES BP-1 AS THE ZONING, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK TYPE ZONING, AND OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CLASSIFIES IT AS BUSINESS PARK USE, BOTH OF WHICH ARE COMPATIBLE WITH EACH OTHER THERE, SO NO INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE ZONING AND THE COMP PLAN.

THE PROPOSED USE IS A CHURCH OR PLACE OF WORSHIP, WHICH REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.

OFTENTIMES, CHURCHES ACTUALLY DO WELL WORKING IN THESE TYPES OF ZONING DISTRICTS AND THESE MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS JUST BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

OFTENTIMES, THOSE INDUSTRIAL-TYPE USERS END UP HAVING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, LIKE WE ALL MOSTLY HAVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, DURING THE DAYTIME, AND THE CHURCHES OBVIOUSLY OPERATE PRIMARILY ON SUNDAYS, FOR THE MOST PART, SOMETIMES IN THE EVENINGS.

WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IN A MINUTE.

THE CRITERIA FOR REVIEW AGAIN ARE ON THE SCREEN, AND AS MENTIONED, THESE ARE IN DETAIL IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.

AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 4 AND NUMBER 10, WHICH HAVE TO DO WITH THE DETRIMENTAL EFFECT, POTENTIALLY, AND THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.

IN THIS CASE, AS I JUST MENTIONED, THIS WAS A CHURCH IN THIS PARTICULAR TENANT SPACE, AND IT IS PROPOSED TO BE A DIFFERENT CHURCH.

WE DO NOT HAVE RECORD OF ANY COMPLAINTS ON THE PREVIOUS CHURCH.

BECAUSE OF THAT, WE SEE THAT THERE PROBABLY WILL NOT BE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT BECAUSE THIS CHURCH ALREADY HAS A SIMILAR SPACE IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND IS PLANNING TO OPERATE AS THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN.

THEY HAVE SOME PAST EXPERIENCE WITH OPERATING, AND THIS PARTICULAR TENANT SPACE HAS ALREADY BEEN, IF YOU WILL, SEASONED FOR A CHURCH-TYPE USE TO BE COMPATIBLE IN THIS AREA.

TRAFFIC-WISE, HERE IS A LAYOUT OF THE SITE, JUST SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA.

THERE IS PARKING SURROUNDING BOTH THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES OF THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS OFF TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.

ALL THE PARKING IS SHARED BETWEEN THE TENANTS, AND THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING.

I'LL SHOW YOU A TABLE ON THE PARKING IN A MINUTE HERE.

BUT HERE YOU CAN SEE A TENANT BREAKDOWN, AND THE SUBJECT SPACE IS JUST OVER 6,000 SQUARE FEET THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING WITH THE GIANT RED STAR.

ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, THE AVERAGE ATTENDANCE IS GOING TO BE 125-150 PEOPLE FOR THOSE SERVICES, AND THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 250 SEATS THAT THEY'LL HAVE AVAILABLE.

THE SUNDAY SERVICES ARE PRIMARILY BETWEEN 8:00 AND 1:00 PM.

THEN THERE ARE MAYBE WEEKNIGHT ACTIVITIES BETWEEN 6:00 AND 9:00 PM.

ALL BUT ONE TENANT IN THIS BUILDING ARE CLOSED AFTER 7:00 PM AND CLOSED ON THE WEEKENDS, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MINIMAL CONFLICT WITH OTHER TENANTS IN THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.

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THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING WITH 154 TOTAL SPACES.

HERE IS THE PARKING TABLE.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE LAND USES WITHIN THIS BUILDING ARE CLASSIFIED AS EITHER CHURCH, WAREHOUSE, OR OFFICE, AND THEY ARE OVER THE PARKING RATIO BY TWO SPACES HERE.

WE HAVE NO CONCERN WITH THE PARKING BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS, AND ALSO KNOWING THE DIFFERENCES IN THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

WITH THAT, STAFF IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CHAPEL KC FOR A CHURCH OR PLACE OF WORSHIP USE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE? NO. ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE FIVE-YEAR SPECIAL PERMIT FOR A CHURCH OR PLACE OF WORSHIP FOR THE CHAPEL KC LOCATED AT 11221 STRANG LINE ROAD.

>> I MOVE.

>> MOTION BY CRAIG. SECOND BY CHELSEA. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> AYE. [OVERLAPPING] >> THOSE OPPOSED. MOTION PASSES.

ITEM 9 IS CONSIDERATION OF A REZONING CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAN KNOWN AS SOLERA

[9. Consideration of a rezoning, concept plan, and preliminary plan known as Solera for a retail, multifamily, and duplex residential development on property located at the southeast corner of Prairie Star Parkway & K-7 Highway]

FOR A RETAIL MULTIFAMILY AND DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY AND K-7 HIGHWAY.

ITEM 9A IS AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY FROM AG AGRICULTURAL AND CP-3 PLANNED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS TO THE RP-4, RESIDENTIAL PLAN, HIGH-DENSITY, AND THE RP-2, RESIDENTIAL PLAN, INTERMEDIATE-DENSITY DISTRICTS.

ITEM 9B IS APPROVAL OF A COMPANION CONCEPT AND PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR THE SOLERA DEVELOPMENT. STEPHANIE.

>> THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR. I WON'T REPEAT ALL OF THAT FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> STEPHANIE SULLIVAN, AGAIN, WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AS MENTIONED, THIS PROJECT IS CALLED SOLERA, AND IT INCLUDES A REZONING CONCEPT PLAN AND PRELIMINARY PLAN.

IT'S LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF K-7 HIGHWAY AND PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE, WITH OUR LOCATION MAP.

HERE IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE.

IT'S APPROXIMATELY 75 ACRES.

YOU CAN SEE MONTICELLO ROAD JUST TO THE EAST OF THE SITE.

IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SMILES GULF, THAT IS TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, AND AGAIN, K-10 A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH HERE, SO BASICALLY, K-10 AND K-7.

ON THE SCREEN, NOW, YOU'LL SEE THE ZONING MAP AND FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS REQUEST DOES INCLUDE A REZONING, SO I HAVE A DIFFERENT SLIDE TO SHOW YOU THE BEFORE AND AFTER OF WHAT THE ZONING REQUEST WOULD LOOK LIKE.

ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, YOU SEE THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS CP-3 AND AG.

AG IS THAT GREEN AREA.

THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP INDICATES A MIXTURE OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S NOT YOUR EYES.

I'M SORRY THAT GRAPHIC CAME OUT A LITTLE BLURRY ON THIS SCREEN.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST AS WELL.

YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN THE CURRENT ZONING, AND THEN THE PROPOSED REZONING ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO KEEP THE CP-3 FOR ABOUT 20 ACRES ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE FOR A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEN THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES DUPLEXES, TOWN HOMES, AND MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS.

THOSE ARE IN THE RP-2 AND RP-4 ZONES.

I'LL SHOW YOU A GRAPHIC THAT OUTLINES THOSE LOCATIONS NEXT.

I'LL USE MY MOUSE FOR THIS ONE.

UP HERE TO THE NORTH IS THAT RED COMMERCIAL AREA WE JUST SAW ON THE REZONING.

THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A GROCERY COMPONENT ON THE SITE HERE AS WELL AS SOME OTHER RETAIL STRIP DEVELOPMENT.

AS MENTIONED, THAT'S ABOUT 20 ACRES.

DOWN HERE IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION, AND WE'LL START OVER HERE ON THE RP-2 SIDE.

THERE ARE PROPOSED TOWN HOMES HERE WHERE THE MOUSE IS SHOWING THESE GOLD BUILDINGS.

THIS IS JUST UNDER 16 ACRES OF THE 75 ACRES, AND THERE ARE PROPOSED DUPLEXES TO THE SOUTH HERE, JUST UNDER 20 ACRES OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEN, ON THE SIDE BORDERING K-7, AND WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 20 ACRES FOR APARTMENTS.

JUST FOR COMPARISON'S SAKE, IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO VISUALIZE WHEN YOU CAN COMPARE IT TO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BUILT.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE SONOMA PLAZA DEVELOPMENT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE NEAR MAURER AND 87TH STREET.

THIS IS THE ROUGH OUTLINE OF THE SONOMA PLAZA SITE.

IT CORRESPONDS TO THIS YELLOW COLUMN HERE.

JUST TO COMPARE OUR SOLERA PLANS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, OUR 75 ACRES, WHERE SONOMA PLAZA IS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER AT 86 ACRES.

COMMERCIAL-WISE, AGAIN, SOLERA IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, BUT STILL COMPARABLE RIGHT IN

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THAT 115-125,000 SQUARE FEET RANGE, AND MULTI-FAMILY UNIT-WISE.

THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY MULTI-FAMILY THE SAME WAY THAT THE PEAK AND THE POINT IN SONOMA PLAZA ARE, BECAUSE THEY'RE TOWN HOMES AND DUPLEX COTTAGES.

BUT TOTAL DWELLING UNITS-WISE, WE HAVE JUST OVER 500 IN SOLERA AND JUST UNDER 900 IN SONOMA PLAZA.

JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME COMPARISON FOR THESE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.

THE PROJECT COMPONENT TABLE IS ON THE SCREEN NOW TO SHOW YOU THE DENSITY, MAINLY.

AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, AND DUPLEXES ALONG WITH THE RETAIL.

TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, THE DENSITY FOR THE APARTMENTS IS COMING IN AT 15.87 UNITS PER ACRE, TOWN HOMES JUST UNDER SIX DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE DUPLEXES 4.32 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, ALL WITHIN CODE REQUIREMENTS.

>> THERE ARE SOME STREET IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITH THIS PROJECT.

MOST NOTABLY, A NEW EXTENSION OF WOODSONIA DRIVE SOUTH OF PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS LIME GREEN COLOR.

THAT'LL BE A KEY ACCESS POINT FOR ALL COMPONENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A NEW EAST-WEST ARTERIAL STREET, MAYBE TEMPORARY IN NATURE AT FIRST HERE.

AS EVENTUALLY THIS WILL BE AN OVERPASS OVER K-7, BUT FOR THIS PURPOSE, YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE BLUE THAT EAST-WEST ARTERIAL STREET, AND EVENTUALLY THE ALIGNMENT WILL MOVE THE STREET CURVING SOUTH TO GO MEET UP WITH 101ST STREET AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

THIS HASN'T BEEN PERFECTLY DESIGNED, SO THIS IS A GENERAL ALIGNMENT.

I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A TEMPORARY CONNECTION.

IN THE MEANTIME, BEFORE WE HAVE THAT FLY OVER, K-7, WE WILL BE UTILIZING MONTICELLO TERRACE, JUST THIS LITTLE SEGMENT OVER TO THE WEST TO MEET UP WITH MONTICELLO TERRACE.

THE OUTER PORTION OF MONTICELLO TERRACE WILL ACTUALLY NO LONGER EXIST WITH THIS PROJECT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT ALIGNMENT WOULD TAKE IT RIGHT THROUGH THIS COMMERCIAL AREA, SO THAT WILL NO LONGER BE IN USE UP HERE.

INSTEAD TO GET TO SMILEY'S, YOU WOULD EITHER GO THROUGH THE NEW WOODSONIA DRIVE AND AROUND OR DOWN MONTICELLO ROAD.

THIS TEMPORARY ACCESS WILL PROVIDE LIFE SAFETY ACCESS FOR FIRE, POLICE, REQUIRED SECONDARY ACCESS PER CODE.

I MENTIONED I WAS GOING TO SHOW YOU THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT ROUGH ALIGNMENT LOOKED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON OUR IMAGE THERE, BUT STILL MAKING THE SAME PATTERN CONNECTING THAT FUTURE FLYOVER, 201ST STREET.

YOU CAN SEE THE ALIGNMENT FOR WOODSONIA AS IT MEETS UP WITH PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY AND THE SUBJECT SITE HERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED.

WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING ON THEIR PLANS IS VERY MUCH COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS MASTER PLANNED THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS OF THE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS, AND I'M GOING TO START UP WITH THE APARTMENTS.

THEY ARE THREE STORY.

AGAIN, THESE ARE STILL AT PRELIMINARY PLAN STAGE.

WITH THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN, YOU WILL SEE SOME MINOR CHANGES PROBABLY FROM PRELIMINARY TO FINAL AS THESE GET FURTHER DEVELOPED BY THE APPLICANT, AND STAFF CONTINUES TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON SOME ARCHITECTURAL ITEMS. HERE IS THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT AND A DUPLEX.

THEY ALL VERY MUCH ARE COHESIVE DESIGN-WISE, AND I BELIEVE THEY INTEND TO MAINTAIN SOME CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, MUCH LIKE YOU SEE.

THERE ARE THREE DEVIATION REQUESTS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS, AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE VERY BRIEFLY HERE, BUT THOSE ARE DETAILED IN OUR STAFF REPORT AS WELL.

THE FIRST DEVIATION REQUEST IS RELATED TO LOT WIDTH FOR SOME OF THE DUPLEX LOTS.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOTS THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THAT DEVIATION REQUEST ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PINKISH PURPLE HERE, AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT REQUESTED DEVIATION.

THE SECOND DEVIATION REQUEST IS RELATED TO THE FREEWAY SETBACK, AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS COME THROUGH ON OTHER PROJECTS ALONG K-10 OR K-7.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE ELEMENTS OF SITE PLANS THAT THEY REQUEST TO HAVE WITHIN THAT 100 FOOT FREEWAY SETBACK.

WE TAKE THAT FROM THE HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY LINE.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE BECAUSE MONTICELLO TERRACE IS ACTUALLY HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S OWNED BY KDOT HERE.

ESSENTIALLY, THEIR PROPERTY LINE IS HIGHWAY RIGHT OF WAY LINE HERE,

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EVEN THOUGH THE HIGHWAY IS QUITE A WAYS AWAY.

THE THROUGH LANES OF THE HIGHWAY AT LEAST.

IN THIS CASE, THE POINT OF THE CLOSEST BUILDING IS 40 FEET SET BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT IT'S ABOUT 190 FEET FROM THE ACTUAL THROUGH LANES OF THE HIGHWAY.

OTHER POINTS HERE, YOU CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENT MEASUREMENTS, ABOUT 240 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE HERE, AND 390 FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE THREE LANES HERE, 600 FEET HERE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROPERTY ALSO CURVES OFF TO THE EAST.

WHEN STAFF EVALUATED THIS, TYPICALLY, WE RECOMMEND THAT PROPERTIES THAT DON'T HAVE THESE FRONT EDGE ROADS DO NOT HAVE THEIR ACTUAL STRUCTURES WITHIN THIS 100 FOOT SETBACK.

WE HAVE ALLOWED TRASH ENCLOSURES OR PARKING LOTS, THAT THING IN THE PAST ENCROACH INTO THAT SETBACK.

SINCE THIS IS A UNIQUE CASE WHERE THERE IS A FRONT EDGE ROAD AND THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF DISTANCE, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE THREE LANES, STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS REQUEST.

THE FINAL DEVIATION REQUEST IS FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING HEIGHT.

AS YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME OF THESE REQUESTS IN THE RP-4 ZONING DISTRICT.

THIS IS JUST A THREE STORY BUILDING, AND THE WAY THAT WE MEASURE HEIGHT IS TO THE MIDPOINT OF BETWEEN THE EAVE AND THE RIDGE.

YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS GRAPHIC, THE RIDGE IS AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING, THE EAVE IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT ROOF LINE, AND WE MEASURE THE HEIGHT AS THIS AVERAGE HERE BETWEEN THE TWO, WHICH IS 41'4 ", WHERE 35 IS THE MAXIMUM.

JUST ABOUT SIX-AND-A-HALF FEET OR SO OVER THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE.

STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

ALTERNATIVELY, THEY COULD HAVE REQUESTED A HIGHER ZONING DISTRICT, BUT I THINK WE'RE MORE COMFORTABLE KEEPING THEM IN THE RP-4 ZONE AND GRADING THE HEIGHT DEVIATION, AND WE HAVE A FEW OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN SUPPORTIVE ON THAT AS WELL.

AS WITH THE OTHER TWO CASES I SPOKE ABOUT ALREADY TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE 13 CRITERIA AND THESE ALSO APPLY TO REZONING REQUESTS, AS WELL AS THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS WE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY THIS EVENING.

I WANT TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT NUMBER 8, WHICH IS CONFORMANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IN THIS CASE, WE TALKED ABOUT NOT ONLY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND CALLING OUT THOSE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS, BUT ALSO THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

THIS PLAN HAS LOOKED VERY CLOSELY AT WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR TRANSPORTATION AND ROAD ALIGNMENT, AS WELL AS THE USES REALLY ALIGNING WITH WHAT WE CALL FOR ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FITS IN WELL WITH THE PLANS FROM OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

I WANT TO NOTE ALSO FOR THIS PROJECT, THERE WERE NO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSION ON THE PROJECT AT THE TIME.

ULTIMATELY, STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ALL THREE COMPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT, THE REZONING COMPONENT, THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL AREA, AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS FOR STEPHANIE BEFORE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? JOHN.

>> JUST REALLY QUICK.

I GOT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED BY THE PACKET.

THE NEAREST STRUCTURE TO THE THROUGH LANES ON THE HIGHWAY, YOU SAID WAS 190 FEET?

>> TO THE THROUGH LANES, YEAH.

>> PERFECT. THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU.

>> COURT.

>> YOU MENTIONED THAT THE FRONT EDGE ROAD IS OWNED BY KDOT THE RIGHT OF WAY.

HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHAT WE DO IN THAT FRONTAGE ROAD IF THEY DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT THAT ROAD THERE ANYMORE, OR WILL IT ALWAYS CONTINUE TO BE THERE? HOW WILL THAT BE NAVIGATED?

>> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

LET ME GET IT TO A LESS MESSY GRAPHIC HERE. MAYBE THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER.

THIS PORTION HERE THAT CURVES AT THE TOP NORTH SIDE OF MONTICELLO TERRACE IS OWNED BY THE CITY, SO THIS IS RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE WOULD VACATE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE COMMERCIAL PORTION HERE.

AS SOON AS IT CROSSES THIS PROPERTY LINE, THEN IT BECOMES THE KDOT RIGHT OF WAY.

KDOT HAS BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT THE PROJECT, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY INTEND TO MAINTAIN THAT ROAD IN PERPETUITY OR NEED THAT ACCESS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE SITE.

IF THEY CAN GET THROUGH. IT LOOKS LIKE TIM WANTS TO COMMENT. I'LL LET YOU GO.

>> THANKS. TIM GREEN, CITY ENGINEER.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, I THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE THE CITY'S CALL IF THAT FRONTAGE ROAD STAYS IN PLACE OR GOES AWAY.

THE CITY MAINTAINS IT, AND SO IT ACTS AS A CITY STREET, AND KDOT'S BEEN PRETTY FLEXIBLE WITH US.

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THEY REALLY HAVE NO INTEREST ONE WAY OR THE OTHER SINCE THEY DON'T MAINTAIN IT OR WHATEVER.

IT WOULD BE OUR CALL IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK OUR STREET LAYOUT IS THAT IT WOULD GO AWAY AT SOME POINT WHEN THIS AREA FULLY DEVELOPS.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THINKING. [LAUGHTER] I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT IF THAT ROAD GOES AWAY, WE'RE DRIVING ALL OF THIS TRAFFIC THROUGH THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA TO POTENTIALLY GO TO A LARGER COMMERCIAL SPACE THAT COULD GO IN, NOT ONLY THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, BUT LIKE AT WHAT'S AT SMILEY'S OR WHATEVER POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO KEEP THAT ROAD OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT MORE USABLE FOR THAT KIND OF [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DON'T THINK THAT ROAD WOULD GO AWAY UNTIL MONTICELLO IS IMPROVED, AND MOST LIKELY 101ST STREET IS PUT IN SO THAT WE HAVE BETTER ACCESS THROUGH THE AREA BEFORE THE FRONTAGE ROAD GOES AWAY.

>> THAT ROAD ISN'T EXACTLY USER FRIENDLY ANYWAY, FOR A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.

>> CORRECT. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PHASE WITH ALL THE APARTMENTS, THE TOWN HOMES AND WHATEVER, THEY ESTIMATE THAT GOING SOUTH ON 102ND WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 140 TRIPS A DAY, WHICH IS ABOUT 14 TRIPS IN THE PEAK HOUR.

THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT NOT MUCH TRAFFIC GOES THAT WAY.

WHEN THEY HAVE PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY TO GET UP TO, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY RECOMMENDS A SIGNAL AT PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY AND WOODSONIA, THAT MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO UP THROUGH THERE.

THEN ANY AREA THAT DEVELOP SOUTH OF THIS IN THE FUTURE, I THINK WE WOULD NEED 101ST AND MONTICELLO IMPROVED.

THE EXISTING STREETS OUT THERE CAN'T HANDLE ANY LARGE TRUCK TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING.

THEY ARE JUST NOT IN THAT GOOD SHAPE.

FRONTAGE ROAD WILL ACT REALLY AS A FIRE ACCESS.

DID THAT HELP?

>> WE'LL GET THERE.

>> IN THE SONOMA PLAZA EXAMPLE, IT BECOMES LIKE MOWER, GOES DOWN THE MIDDLE.

I'LL LET YOU MARINATE ON THAT. ANY QUESTIONS DOWN HERE?

>> I DO. THE WOODSONIA EXTENSION, IS THAT SOMETHING WE BUILD OR THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO BUILD? THAT MAY BE A TIM QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW.

>> LET ME GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE.

>> GO BACK, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.

ALSO SPEAK ABOUT THAT BLUE LINE THERE AS WELL, THAT IMPROVEMENT.

>> YES. THE GREEN WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CONSTRUCT.

TYPICALLY, ON AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECT ROADWAY LIKE THAT, THE CITY'S POLICY IS THAT WE'LL PAY OUR EXCISE TAX FOR ABOUT 20% TOWARDS THAT ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN BEEN AGREED TO YET, BUT THAT'S OUR STANDARD PROCESS.

THE BLUE SECTION, SINCE THAT'S A FUTURE OVERPASS, IF WE CAN'T MAKE THE GRADES WORK, THEN WE WOULD HAVE MORE OF A TEMPORARY ROAD, NOT FULL STORM SEWERS AND ALL THAT, BUT PROBABLY MORE OF A RURAL SECTION, BUT IF WE CAN MAKE THE GRADES WORK WHERE IT WOULD MATCH THE FUTURE OVERPASS, THEN WE'LL HAVE A PERMANENT ROAD IN THERE, WHICH WOULD BE CURB AND GUTTER, BUT THAT'S STILL TO BE DETERMINED.

>> FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

THE CONFIGURATION FOR THE COMMERCIAL PIECE UP TOP, IS THAT HYPOTHETICAL, IS THERE SOME PROBABILITY THAT THAT IS HOW IT WOULD WORK OUT BECAUSE IF YOU MOVE BUILDINGS AROUND, YOU CHANGE THE ROADS, THERE'S MENTION OF A GROCERY STORE.

HOW REALISTIC IS THIS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SEE?

>> WELL, THE ALIGNMENT OF WOODSONIA WOULD NOT CHANGE, SO THAT IS GOING TO DIVIDE THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE.

THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPER CHOOSES TO LAY OUT WHAT IS INSIDE, THIS WEST AND THIS EAST PORTION ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, IT COULD CHANGE.

THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT TOO.

THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT IS A CONCEPT PLAN, SO IT IS THE LEAST DETAILED.

THE PRELIMINARY PLAN IS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, AND SO EACH OF THEM WOULD STILL HAVE SOME STEPS TO GO THROUGH TO PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THEIR PLANS.

THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DETAIL, SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT IS STILL IN FLUX A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE IDEA OF HOW FAR ALONG THEY ARE ON THAT PARTICULAR DESIGN.

>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING BEYOND CONCEPT?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.

>> WE CAN HAVE THEM UP NEXT TO TELL US MORE, CHRIS.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HAVE THEM UP? BILL.

>> THANK YOU. HI, STEPHANIE.

>> HI.

>> HOW MANY CONNECTIONS DO YOU HAVE OUT OF THE RESIDENTIAL TO THE TRAILS OR IS THAT BETTER FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> LET ME CHECK A PLAN ON THE STAFF REPORT HERE.

>> STEPHANIE, I CAN ANSWER THAT QUICKLY.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE ONE OUT OF EACH POD OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE TOWARD THE EAST, TOWARD THE TRAIL.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAW.

WE MIGHT LOOK AT SEEING IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE.

DAN COULD PROBABLY HELP US WITH THAT.

ON THE EAST SIDE, IS THERE CONTINUOUS EXISTING TREES THAT STAY?

>> YES. I APOLOGIZE.

I SHOULD HAVE PUT THE LANDSCAPE PRESERVATION IMAGE IN HERE.

IT IS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT, BUT THERE ARE SPECIFIC AREAS OF TREE PRESERVATION ALONG THAT EASTERN BORDER HERE THAT BORDERS THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.

>> NOW, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HEIGHT DEVIATION, I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE ASKED FOR A HIGHER ZONING TO GET THAT HEIGHT.

WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN?

>> RP-5 ZONING ALLOWS TALLER BUILDINGS, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS MORE DENSITY.

GENERALLY, WE'VE BEEN COMPROMISING TO CAP THE DENSITY AT 16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH RP-4 AND THEN ALLOWING A LITTLE BIT OF A HEIGHT DEVIATION.

YOU COULD STILL GET A THREE STORY BUILDING, BUT YOU'RE CAPPED AT THAT 16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

>> TIM, STEPHIE, HOW WIDE IS WOODSONIA?

>> YOU SHOULD JUST STAY UP HERE. [LAUGHTER]

>> IT VARIES. AT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF?

>> GOING THROUGH.

>> JUST GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE WAY?

>> YEAH.

>> FOR THE MOST PART, TWO LANES.

THERE'LL BE SOME TURN LANES, BUT TWO LANES.

>> LIKE LACKMAN?

>> CORRECT. LACKMAN OR [INAUDIBLE] I WAS GOING TO BRING THOSE UP FOR COUNCILMEMBER.

IF THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE TRAFFIC, WE WON'T HAVE ANY DRIVEWAYS OUT ONTO WOODSONIA, AND IT WOULD ACT MORE OF A LACKMAN OR A [INAUDIBLE] SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT.

>> I'LL CLARIFY, THE INTERSECTION ITSELF WILL HAVE BASICALLY FOUR LANES AT THE INTERSECTION, LEFT THROUGH RIGHT, AND THEN ONE SOUTHBOUND, AND IT WILL BE SIGNALIZED AT SOME POINT.

>> SURE. NOW, DO WE EXPECT THAT MAYBE THIS FOR DN ALSO? DO WE EXPECT THE RESIDENTIAL TO BE BUILT FIRST?

>> I DEFER ON THAT ONE.

>> FELLOWS, WHY DON'T YOU COME ON DOWN? WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE APPLICANT. PLEASE.

>> WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP?

>> HELLO THERE.

>> I'VE BEEN WAITING.

>> STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR US, PLEASE.

>> KEVIN TUBISING, 5,000 HASKINS, SHAWNEE, BUT A 20 PLUS YEAR MEMBER OF THE EDC AND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE [INAUDIBLE]

>> THANK YOU.

>> VERY FOR PROUD. THANK YOU. SHOULD I START A FEW THINGS OR JUST GO QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU [INAUDIBLE]?

>> START WITH THE QUESTIONS, AND THEN YOU CAN SHOW CIRCLE BACK AROUND.

THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE STARTED FIRST?

>> WELL, THE ROAD WILL GO FIRST.

RIMSONIA, AND THEN THE EAST WEST LEG OVER TO MONTICELLO TRAIL.

I THINK IT'S CALLED NOW.

WE'LL GO IN FIRST THEN THE RESIDENTIAL WE HAVE TO GET STARTED ON BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF COMMERCIAL, NO ONE WILL COME HERE UNTIL WE LAND THE GROCER.

UNTIL WE PROVE THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, NO GROCER WILL COME.

ROOFTOPS FOLLOW RETAIL 100% OF THE TIME.

WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE GROCERS TODAY.

THAT IS 100% THE GOAL.

THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE. SIR, TO YOUR QUESTION.

THE REASON IT'S CONCEPTUAL IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A 60,000 OR A 90,000 SQUARE FOOT GROCER.

THAT WILL THEN SET THE PEG OF THE PARKING, AND THEN HOW CLOSE ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS WILL BE NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

>> COURTNEY, YOU'RE STILL MAKING THAT FACE.

>> HELP YOU WITH ONE THING. I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE CONFUSION IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE PAGE 13 OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET SAYS THAT THE ROAD NORTH AS IN ALL OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD WILL BE ELIMINATED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS NO ROAD, SO THERE IS NO 40 FEET.

THE ONLY REASON THAT IT'S 40 FEET IS BECAUSE K DOT DOES NOT ABANDON RIGHT OF WAY.

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THERE WILL BE GRASS THAT WILL BE 40 FEET FROM, BUT THAT'S IT.

>> LET HIM START OVER AND THEN [INAUDIBLE]

>> I KNOW THAT'S HARD TO ABSORB.

BUT SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO HELP ME OUT WITH THAT, BUT THERE'S THE ROAD TO OUR PROJECT ON THE SOUTH ORDER UP WILL BE GOING AWAY.

THERE IS NO ROAD TO CONTEND WITH OR BE 40 FEET FROM.

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN. MAYOR, MAY I?

>> PLEASE.

>> I WAS GOING TO TRY TO WORK THAT IN MYSELF BECAUSE MR. TUBISING IS RIGHT.

THE REALLY AFTER THIS GOES AWAY BECAUSE IT MUST GO AWAY.

AFTER THIS GOES IN AND CONNECTS TO THE SOUTH AND EVENTUALLY FLIES OVER, THERE SIMPLY IS NO REASON TO HAVE THIS FRONTAGE ROAD.

WHAT WE'VE OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS OUR EXPECTATION FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, BASED ON EXPERIENCE IS THAT THIS ENTIRE FRONTAGE ROAD GOES AWAY AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE, I WILL ADD.

WITH THIS FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT SIMPLY WON'T GO ANYWHERE, EXCEPT TO THE BACK AND UP TO A CALL DE SAC.

THERE'S REALLY NO PURPOSE FOR IT.

>> I GUESS ONE MORE TO ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION, WE'LL BE PUTTING $8 MILLION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS INTO THIS PROPERTY.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION. IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IN THE DOCUMENTS IT SAID THAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING VARIOUS PRICE POINTS, INCLUDING MY COLLEGE GRADS.

CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL WHAT THAT MEANS?

>> I THINK THE MAIN THING THAT I CAN SPEAK TO ON THAT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BUILT THEREFORE, PRICED THE UNITS SPECIFICALLY.

WE WILL BE MARKET RATE. WE'RE NOT A LOW INCOME PROVIDER OR WHATNOT HERE.

BUT THE REASON WE WANTED TO HAVE THE RP 4, THE RP 3, THE RP 2, THE DIFFERENT SIZES IS TO BE ABLE TO FIT THAT ECONOMIC SPECTRUM.

THAT YOU HAVE A STUDIO APARTMENT IN THE HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS THAT WILL BE MORE AFFORDABLE TO THAT COLLEGE GRADUATE.

BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME EMPTY NESTORS THAT WANT A LITTLE MORE ELBOW ROOM THAT MIGHT COME DOWN TO THE TOWNHOUSES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION OR SHOULD WE JUST DO MORE QUESTIONS?

>> NO, GO FOR IT.

>> DONE. LET'S JUST GO ALL THE WAY DOWN.

>> AMAZING. SO FAR, APPRECIATE THE PROJECT BEING BROUGHT TO US.

CAN YOU SHARE HOW YOU LANDED ON SOME OF YOUR PARKING FIGURES? IS THAT BASED ON HISTORICAL DATA, OR IS THAT BASED ON INTUITION?

>> I LEAVE IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE P PERIOD, E PERIOD AFTER THEIR NAME FOR THAT.

I WOULD HAVE TO LET TIM OR ONE OF THE OTHER ENGINEERS SPEAK TO THAT, BUT WE ARE SO OVER PARKED ON THIS PROJECT, IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT, I GUESS.

>> THAT'S CLEAR. FOR PARKING, WE DID A PRELIMINARY PLAN ANALYSIS FOR THE PARKING.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE PARKING MET THE REQUIREMENTS.

LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND LIKE KEVIN MENTIONED AS WELL, THESE ARE STILL PLANS THAT ARE DEVELOPING AS THEY'RE CONTINUING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE PARKING AS WE GET TO FUTURE PLAN STAGES FOR BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS.

THIS WILL HAVE TO GET A FINAL PLAN ULTIMATELY, AND WE'LL REVIEW PARKING AGAIN WHEN WE SEE THOSE FINAL PLANS.

>> AWESOME. THANK YOU.

OBVIOUSLY, A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY PARKING IS GOING TO BE A COMPONENT.

I DON'T PERSONALLY LOVE MASSIVE OVER PARKING, PRIMARILY BECAUSE TO ME, THAT'S GREEN SPACE THAT IS WASTED ON ASPHALT THAT MAY NOT GET USED.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE CONCENTRATION OF MAYBE HALF THE EXTRA PARKING IS IN THE TOWN HOME AND DUPLEX MULTI FAMILY AREA.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO SAY, LIKE, WHOA, HOLD THIS UP. THERE'S NO WAY.

IT JUST IS SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, IT COULD BE GREEN SPACE, IT COULD BE BENCHES, IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE.

THAT IF THERE WERE HISTORICAL DATA LIKE YOU'VE DEVELOPED THREE OF THESE BEFORE.

THEY'RE ALWAYS UNDER PARKED.

HERE'S HOW WE GOT HERE.

THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO ME, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE PROGRESS TOWARD FINAL PLANS.

>> WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THAT, SIR, IS THAT AS WE WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THAT FINAL NUMBER, THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEM TO BLEED OUT INTO.

THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHERE THEY CAN GO.

THIS IS WHERE THEY CAN PARK AND THEIR FRIENDS ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY.

WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT AS PEOPLE LIVE, THERE IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR THEM TO GO.

>> DEFINITELY. NO. TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

LOOKING AT MY NOTES TO SEE IF I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

I'LL JUST MAYBE COMMENT THAT MOST OF THE DEVIATIONS ARE PRETTY ROUTINE.

I MUCH PREFER THE HEIGHT DEVIATION TO INCREASING DENSITY,

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OR AT LEAST INCREASING THE ZONING DESIGNATION FOR THOSE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.

THAT SAID, REALLY APPRECIATE, IT'S AN APPROPRIATE GRADATION OF INTENSITY FROM THE HIGHWAY AND USING THOSE TALLER BUILDINGS TO BUFFER OUT SOUND TO THE REST OF THE LOWER DENSITY RESIDENCES.

DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT OVERALL.

I THINK, STEPHANIE, JUST TO GIVE YOU A SHOUTOUT, I REALLY APPRECIATED THE COMPARISON TO SONOMA.

THAT HELPED ME IMMENSELY, SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

ACTUALLY, TO THE APPLICANT, ALSO APPRECIATE THE MASSING FIGURES THAT WERE A PART OF THE APPLICATION.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS MISSING IN SOME OF THESE LARGER SCALE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HELPS CONCEPTUALIZE, CONTEXTUALIZE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

OVERALL, SO FAR, THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.

>> THANKS.

>> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE, COURT?

>> I'M READY.

>> YOU'RE READY? ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOU AS I'M TRYING TO FORMULATE WHY I FEEL THE WAY I FEEL CURRENTLY, I'M TRYING TO GET THERE FOR YOU.

I THINK WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS THAT WE PURPOSEFULLY PUT THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOGETHER IN A VERY TWO YEAR PROCESS OF WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT HIGH DENSITY? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT COMMERCIAL? I THINK FOR ME, WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH IS THAT CORNER.

THROWING THIS RESIDENTIAL PIECE RIGHT SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO COMMERCIAL LARGE AREAS THAT ARE ON THE CORNER OF TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY WE AREN'T DOING ALL COMMERCIAL THERE WHEN WE JUST PUT IN 1,000 APARTMENTS ON MONTICELLO, BECAUSE THE ROOFTOPS ARE THERE.

THEY'RE COMING. THE PEOPLE ARE THERE.

TO GET A GROCER TO COME IN, THERE'S 1,000 NEW APARTMENTS COMING IN IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY.

I'M TRYING TO RATIONALIZE WHY WE WOULD PUT THIS IN THE MIDDLE.

I'M COMPARING IT TO SONOMA, BUT ALSO SONOMA DOESN'T HAVE THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT LIKE WE DO IN THIS SPACE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE EITHER.

I FEEL LIKE THERE WAS REAL INTENT IN PUTTING IN THAT BEING ZONED OR THAT FUTURE LAND USE BEING COMMERCIAL THAT WE'RE JUST IGNORING.

I GUESS I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHAT THE RATIONALE IS FOR PUTTING RESIDENTIAL THERE.

>> I THINK I MIGHT BE CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE ARE EXACTLY FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY PUTTING COMMERCIAL ON THE NORTH HIGH DENSITY ON THE WEST, MEDIUM DENSITY ON THE EAST.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ZONED AT NOW.

>> THAT'S ZONING AND THAT'S FUTURE.

GOD, I WISH IT WAS ONLY TWO YEARS, BUT IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER.

>> THEN I'M CONFUSED.

>> WE'RE EXACTLY FOLLOWING THE FUTURE LAND USE.

>> LOVE THAT.

>> YES.

>> I DON'T WANT TO DISCOUNT WHAT THEY'VE DONE.

I THINK THAT THAT'S MY FAULT.

I WAS READING THIS BACKWARDS.

>> IF WE CAME IN AND DID SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T LET US BE HERE.

>> I LOVE THAT. GIVE ME A MINUTE AND COME BACK TO ME.

THANK YOU. BILL? THAT'S WHERE I STRUGGLE.

>> WELL, COURTNEY MIGHT LOVE IT.

>> NO, COURTNEY DOESN'T.

>> THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

OF COURSE, I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY OF APARTMENTS, AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED TO REZONE LAND TO BUILD MORE.

ARE ANY OF THE DUPLEXES AND TOWN HOMES GOING TO BE FOR SALE? ARE THEY ALL RENTALS?

>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE RENTALS BECAUSE FROM THE BUSINESS MODEL, IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CUT UP CONDO OUT AND HAVE A BLEND.

BECAUSE WITH A RENTAL STRUCTURE, WE CAN CONTROL THE QUALITY ACROSS THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.

THE PROBLEM WITH OWNERS HODGE PODGED IN BETWEEN, I CAN'T CONTROL WHETHER THAT PERSON CUTS THEIR GRASS OR NOT.

I CAN MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT BY MAKING IT RENTAL.

>> SOMEBODY CAN GIVE ME THE NUMBER, BUT BOY, LENEXA IS REALLY TOP HEAVY, APPROACHING 50% IF NOT OVER RENTALS IN OUR TOWN.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF APARTMENTS,

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AND I DON'T SEE ME SUPPORTING THIS.

>> WE'VE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT MULTI FAMILY WEST OF RENER BEFORE, AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE EXCITED BY.

WHAT I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT A, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY FOLLOWING THE FUTURE LAND USE GUIDE AS PUBLISHED BY THE LENEXA CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION.

LENEXA ALSO HAS ANOTHER LONGSTANDING TRADITION, WHICH IS NO SINGLE FAMILY ALONG HIGHWAY, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.

I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

BUT WE'RE STUCK IN THAT WE HAVE A SELLER THAT HAS LAND RIGHTS IN ORDER TO SELL THEIR LAND.

THE CITY OF LENEXA HAS PUBLISHED A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT BASICALLY SAYS HERE'S HOW YOU MAY DEVELOP IN CITY.

WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT TO THE LETTER OF THE LAW.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, BILL. CHELSEA.

>> HI, GOOD EVENING. I TOO HAD SOME CONFUSION, COURTNEY ON THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING AND PULLING THIS BACK UP, BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE TAKING AWAY FROM SOME COMMERCIALS, SO THANK YOU.

ON ONE OF YOUR OVERALL MASSING MODELS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AND CONFIRM THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE GREEN SPACE IN BETWEEN, AND YOU'RE MAINTAINING AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE BETWEEN THESE BUILDINGS AS IT APPEARS ON THIS RENDERING.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

I KNOW IT'S NOT REALLY MENTIONED IN THESE PROCEEDINGS, BUT WE ALSO HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WHICH WE HAD A BUNCH OF THE NEIGHBORS SHOW UP, AND WE HAD A GREAT MEETING WITH THEM.

WE'RE MAINTAINING THAT GREEN BELT, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THEM AND AROUND THE REST OF THE MODEL AS WELL.

>> JUST SOME COMMENTS AND ECHOING WHAT JOHN HAD MENTIONED THAT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE DEVIATION IN HEIGHT TO AVOID HAVING TO INCREASE UP TO AN RP 5 DENSITY.

I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA, PARTICULARLY, NOT ONLY AS YOU HAD MENTIONED WITH THE SOUND BUFFER, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ADJUSTMENT.

BUT REALLY AM MORE CONCERNED IN JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE IN BETWEEN.

ABSOLUTE. OTHERWISE, THANK YOU.

>> WE WANT THE SAME THING.

>> IS IT YOUR ATTENTION TO MAINTAIN MANAGEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY AFTER IT'S DEVELOPED?

>> YES, SIR.

>> CAN YOU SPEAK TO YOUR EXPERIENCE MANAGING THESE PROPERTIES?

>> PLUS OF OUR PARTNERS HAVE EXPERIENCE OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD MANAGING MULTI FAMILY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, SO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNITS.

>> ANYTHING?

>> A LITTLE BIT. I LIKE THE PROJECT, KEVIN.

I CAN REMEMBER BEING ON THE CHAMBER BOARD 20 SOME YEARS AGO, WHEN WE THOUGHT, BIG BOX STORES, WE'RE GOING TO OCCUPY THIS COMMERCIAL AREA AND HAD BEEN A LOWS IN A WALMART AND ALL THAT STUFF ON THERE.

I THINK THE RECESSION BASHED ALL THAT.

I'M THANKFUL IT DID, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A MUCH MORE SUITABLE PROJECT, AS YOU'VE DEMONSTRATED, WE DON'T WANT SINGLE FAMILY ON THE HIGHWAY.

I THINK THE WAY THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT THE APARTMENTS, AND THEN THE DUPLEXES AND TOWN HOMES IS A LOGICAL PROGRESSION FROM HIGHER DENSITY TO LOWER DENSITY, AND I THINK IT FILLS IN A GAP THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO FILL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO US.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

>> LAST CALL, COURT.

>> COME ON, COURTNEY, I'M READY.

>> I'M STRUGGLING. WE DO THIS AT REAL TIME.

I DON'T COME IN HERE WITH A PRE PLANNED IDEA ABOUT WHERE I WANT TO BE.

CLEARLY, IF I DID, I WOULD HAVE HAD IT ALL SCREWED UP ANYWAY BECAUSE, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAPS DIFFERENTLY.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE REALLY STANDING OUT FOR ME.

ONE IS, TO BILL'S POINT, WE HAVE A LOT OF APARTMENTS GOING IN.

I KNOW THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT OUR USAGE IS ACROSS? THAT'S NOT WHERE I'M AT.

WHAT I DON'T LOVE IS DRIVING THROUGH THIS COMMERCIAL TO GET TO A RESIDENTIAL THAN TO GET TO ANOTHER COMMERCIAL PIECE.

>> COULD WE TALK ABOUT THAT SECOND COMMERCIAL PIECE, THOUGH?

>> YEAH.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT PURPLE. I CALL IT BLUE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT THE BUSINESS PARK, IS A VERY DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL.

>> I KNOW.

>> IT'S MORE LIKE CORPORATE WOODSY FROM ITS PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT ITS INTENT IS.

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WE DRIVE THROUGH THAT ALL THE TIME ON PLUM AND ON LACHMAN AND WHATNOT, AS WE TRANSITION FROM A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY, OF COURSE, OVER TOWARDS THE EAST IN LENEXA.

THIS WILL BE MORE OF A MULTI FAMILY HIGHER DENSITY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE PERFECT TRANSITION BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL RETAIL ENVIRONMENT AND AN OFFICE PARK ENVIRONMENT.

THAT'S PLANNING 101, FRANKLY.

>> PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH THAT, THOUGH, IS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ZONED AT AG.

OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP SAYS BUSINESS PARK, AND WHILE WE ALL WANT TO GO TOWARDS THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT A BUSINESS PARK IS GOING TO GO IN THERE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SOMEBODY HAS A GRAND IDEA AND WANTS TO BRING IT.

IF IT WAS ALREADY THERE, THAT WOULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT.

EVERYBODY ALWAYS SAYS, YOU'RE MOVING NEXT TO A FIELD.

YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S GOING TO GO IN THERE.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M TRYING TO RATIONALIZE THE ISSUES THAT I'M HAVING WITH DRIVING THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL TO THE RESIDENTIAL TO THAT COMMERCIAL PIECE AGAIN, WITHOUT THAT I LIKE THE OUTER ROAD, TO BE HONEST.

I LIKE THAT THAT OTHER FRONTAGE ROAD TO GO AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO WHERE THEY WOULD NEED TO BE IN THAT SPACE.

I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM THAT, THAT PURPLE PIECE ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL WE HAVE 101ST, AND WE HAVE MONTICELLO DONE. GO AHEAD.

>> HELP US, SCOTT. HELP. WELL, SCOTT.

>> I WAS GOING TO JUST TRY TO GET A BIGGER PICTURE PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE YOU MAY RECALL GOING THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>> SURE.

>> THIS WAS ONE OF OUR AREAS OF CHANGE THAT MET A DIFFERENT MARKET FROM 2030 YEARS AGO.

AS COUNCIL MEMBER, DENNY NOTES, THIS WAS PLANNED FOR A LARGE AREA OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH WHEN THE WORLD WAS DOING LOWS AND TARGETS TOGETHER IN A LOT OF OUTLIERS.

DIFFERENT THINGS. WELL, THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT THE MARKET IS GIVING US TODAY.

STARTING 3-4 YEARS AGO, THIS WAS AN AREA WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAD, I THINK, A BENEFICIAL OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE THEN OWNER WHO ARE NOT IN THE ROOM ARE NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE IN TERMS OF ACCOMMODATING THE MARKET.

ONE OF THE VALUES THAT WE HELD WAS YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN SOME AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THERE THAT CAN HOLD A GROCERY STORE BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S NEED AS THIS AREA EXPANDS.

THAT WAS VALUE NUMBER 1.

THE OTHER THING WE LOOKED AT AND I'LL TRY TO BRING UP QUICKLY THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION ARE DIRECTLY LINKED.

RECALL THAT THIS IS AN ARTERIAL STREET, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE TWO LANES OR THREE OR FOUR, BUT IT IS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY, AND THEN WOULD SONY IS A COLLECTOR ROAD.

WE HAD A CONTEXT OF THE ELBOW OF TWO STATE HIGHWAYS HERE, AN ARTERIAL STREET NETWORK, PLANNED INTERCHANGE AT LONE ELM ROAD AND PLAN INTERCHANGE AT CLAIRE.

WE TOOK THIS AREA, AND ONE OF THE VALUES, AS MR. TUBING NOTED, WAS TO NOT PUT SINGLE FAMILY OR SENSITIVE LAND USES IN THE ELBOW OF TWO STATE HIGHWAYS AND BETWEEN A STATE HIGHWAY AND ARTERIAL ROAD.

WE LAID OUT OUR LAND USE WITHIN THESE DIFFERENT CONTEXTS AND DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS.

WHERE WE LANDED BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS, BASED ON THE STREET NETWORK, BASED ON THE STATE HIGHWAYS, WE ENDED UP WITH THIS IDEA OF COMMERCIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY, AND HIGHER DENSITY IN A NEGOTIATED LAND USE PATTERN THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH SUPPORTING AND BRINGING TO THE COUNCIL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S HOW WE GOT THERE.

>> HOW MANY UNITS.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> UNDER 500.

>> HOW MANY UNITS IN JUST THE RP4?

>> GO TO GO TO THE NOTES FOR THAT?

>> I KNOW.

>> THE RP4 IS 324. I'M SORRY.

YES, SORRY. 324. WHICH IS FAR LOWER THAN WE COULD HAVE GONE FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

>> ABOUT 100 LESS THAN WE COULD HAVE DONE.

FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

>> SURE.

>> HIGH DENSITY.

>> I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO SAY THIS.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO GIVE US A MIX OF OPTIONS.

CLEARLY, THE MORE HOUSING WE HAVE THE BETTER SINCE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING AT THE MOMENT.

>> SURE.

>> THAT BEING SAID,

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I ALMOST WISH THAT IT WAS ALL RP2 OR ALL RP3 IN THAT JUST TO LOWER THAT DENSITY DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE.

>> I CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT ACTUALLY. BECAUSE I'M ALSO THE BROKER FOR THE SELLER.

THEY'RE OUT OF AKRON, OHIO.

IT'S A LARGE FAMILY OFFICE.

THEY WILL NEVER SELL THE LAND IN AN ECONOMIC WAY.

THEY WILL EVER ALLOW IT TO BE THAT LOW OF IDENTITY.

EVER. JUST FYI.

>> WOULD THEY SELL IT FOR COMMERCIAL?

>> I CAN'T BUILD ALL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE OF THE LAND USE GUIDE THAT SAYS I HAVE TO PUT COMMERCIAL ON THE NORTH.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I HAVE TO DO WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL ASKED ME TO DO WHEN THEY APPROVED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND INVITED ME TO COME BUILD IN THE MANNER WHICH THE LAND USE GUIDE WAS PASSED.

>> WHO INVITED YOU TO COME BUILD?

>> THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LENEXA.

THAT'S WHAT THE LAND USE GUIDE, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AN INVITATION TO DEVELOPERS TO COME DO THIS.

WE HAVE OVER A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR OF EXPENSES, INCLUDING A $25,000 TRAFFIC STUDY TO DEMONSTRATE HOW WOODSONIA SHOULD BE BUILT ALONG WITH PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY, BECAUSE THE CITY OF LENEXA ASKED US TO COME DO THIS IN THIS MANNER.

>>I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO COMBAT.

I'M JUST SAYING REALLY TRYING TO HELP YOU GET THERE.

>> I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS ALL WE REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING YOU.

>> I EVEN LIKE THE AESTHETIC.

OF WHAT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU SHOWED US, THE ELEVATIONS.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT. I'M SORTING THROUGH MY ROADS. GIVE ME A SECOND.

>> YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. I CAN JUST MENTION THAT GOING BACK TO THE OTHER SONOMA COMPARISON, STEFF DID A GREAT JOB.

>> I DRIVE THAT ALL THE TIME. I KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> AM I GOING THE WRONG WAY? SORRY.

>> BUT WHAT YOU'RE HANGING ONTO IS LIKE LENEXA DRIVE.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> IT'S A FRONTAGE ROAD.

>> NO, I'M NOT HANGING ON TO THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE END ALL FOR THIS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M STRESSED ABOUT.

I THINK I'M MORE STRESSED ABOUT ADDING 500 MORE INTO THE CORRIDOR WHEN THERE'S A CLEAR NEED FOR MORE COMMERCIAL, AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CUT THROUGHS BEFORE THOSE ROADS ARE BUILT TO THAT ARTERIAL, THAT DOESN'T EXIST, AND ALSO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS.

I DON'T EVEN HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT IS FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AT THIS POINT, I COULD MAKE A DECISION. THANK YOU.

>> BILL.

>> SCOTT THE PURPLE DOWN THERE IN THE ELBOW OF THE THE BUSINESS PARKS?

>> YES, SIR.

>> COULD THAT BE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT?

>> I THINK IT COULD BE. AGAIN, THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE IN THAT ELBOW.

>> THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T HAVE APARTMENTS?

>> WELL IT COULD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT APARTMENTS WOULD FIT IN THAT SCENARIO, BUT WE'D HAVE TO SEE A PLAN. PERHAPS THEY COULD.

>> BUT YOU KNOW MARK TALKED ABOUT WHAT I WOULD CALL MIXED JUICES, WHICH WOULD, I THINK INCLUDE APARTMENTS.

I APPRECIATE STEPHANIE SHOWING A SONOMA PLAZA.

ALSO THAT'S WHERE WE NEED DENSITY.

IT MAY NOT BE TECHNICALLY CITY CENTER.

BUT BOY, EVERYBODY, I THINK, THINKS OF IT AS CITY CENTER WITH THE DENSITY THERE IN SONOMA PLAZA, WHICH HELPS MAKE ALL OF THIS SUCCESSFUL.

THAT'S WHERE THE APARTMENTS ARE, AND EVEN THAT FOOTPRINT GOTTEN BIGGER OVER TIME.

WERE THESE APARTMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT? WERE THEY PART OF THE 200 PLUS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, NOT VERY LONG, BUT TALKED ABOUT NOT ADDING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

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>> THAT WAS A WHILE BACK, COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THIS WAS NOT MULTIFAMILY IN THE PREVIOUS MAP.

IT HAD BEEN PART OF THE GROUP OF HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ADDED TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

I WOULD NOTE THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET TODAY IS THAT MULTI FAMILY UNITS ARE STILL IN HIGH DEMAND.

REALLY THE WHOLE NATION IS BEHIND IN HOUSING TYPES OF ALL TYPES.

WE THINK AND YOU'RE SEEING SINGLE FAMILY PROJECTS COME FORWARD, YOU'RE SEEING DUPLEX AND MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING PROJECTS COME FORWARD, AND WE HAVE A NOW A VERY FINITE PORTFOLIO OF OPPORTUNITY FOR MULTI FAMILY IN OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP TODAY.

THE MARKET IS STILL STRONG IN TERMS OF DEMAND FOR MULTI FAMILY UNITS, EVEN IN OUR CITY.

I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT.

THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD NOTE IS THIS IS ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DENSITY ENOUGH TO HELP PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR IT.

THAT IS A BIG TOPIC CERTAINLY TO THE APPLICANT, BUT ALSO JUST TO THE FACT THAT THESE ARE COLLECTOR AND ARTERIAL ROADS THAT ARE NEEDING TO BE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE.

>> WELL COURTNEY SAID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT.

WOULDN'T HAVE MINDED SEEING THIS EVEN CP23.

OF COURSE, KEVIN TOLD HER ABOUT WOULDN'T WORK FINANCIALLY, MY WORDS.

WE SALUTE THAT WE DON'T PUT RP2 UP AGAINST OR RP1 UP AGAINST HIGHWAYS.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE NORTH OF 95TH, NORTH OF PRAIRIE STAR, ON THE WEST SIDE THAT WE HAVE RP2. SEEMS TO WORK.

IT WOULDN'T BREAK MY HEART TO TALK ABOUT THAT TRADITION OF NOT PUTTING THAT TYPE OF HOUSING ALONG THE HIGHWAYS. THANK YOU.

>> I'M GOING TO MAYBE WRAP UP.

LET ME GO AHEAD FOR A MINUTE.

I SUPPORT THIS, MR. TUBING, FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT YOU MENTIONED.

WE SPENT TWO YEARS WITH A PROFESSIONAL FIRM THAT ALLOWED US TO EXPLORE HOW THIS SHOULD BE PUT TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP BASED ON THE BEST INFORMATION THAT WE COULD, THE WAY THAT LENEXA DOES THINGS, AND I THINK THE MIXTURE OF THIS MAKES SENSE.

WHEN YOU CONSIDER BOTH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENTS AROUND IT, IT MAKES SENSE WITHIN THAT CONTEXT.

IT PROVIDES A NEIGHBORHOOD NODE AT AN IMPORTANT PLACE THAT'S NEXT TO A HIGHWAY WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE DRAWN TO THAT FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, FROM DESOTO, FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO THE BUSINESS PARK OR WHATEVER THAT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE.

AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU'RE BUILDING A LOT OF ROAD, TO GET THIS DONE.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL HELPS PENCEL THAT OUT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE IN CIP TO BUILD THOSE ROADS OURSELVES.

WE GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OF THIS.

AS YOU SAID, YOU'VE ACHIEVED THE GOALS THAT WE SET OUT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS PUT TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT WAY, CONSIDERING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE DO ABOUT STEPPING HIGH DENSITY DOWN INTO LOWER DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD NODES, VISION 2040, IT ALL MAKES SENSE THE WAY THAT THIS IS PUT TOGETHER.

I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT.

I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK ON DETAILS OF TRAFFIC.

TIM IS NOT GOING TO LET US BUILD SOMETHING THAT CAN'T HANDLE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO GO FIRST, AND WE CAN'T DENY THIS APPLICATION OR CHANGE IT BASED ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW TO THE SOUTH.

>> THAT WASN'T THE REASONING.

>> I HAVE A REQUEST. I THINK I'M THERE.

I THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS HESITANTLY.

I THINK MY CONCERNS ARE AROUND THE ROADS.

MY CONCERNS ARE AROUND WHAT THAT TRAFFIC LOOKS LIKE.

WHEN I THINK OF THE COMPARISON BETWEEN THIS SPACE AND SNOWMAN PEAK, PLEASE DO NOT DO IT RIGHT AND RIGHT OUT.

PLEASE MAKE THE PARKING LOT NOT RIDICULOUS BECAUSE DRIVING THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT IS NOT EASY AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CONTROL.

LIKE, AS THEY ADDED BUILDINGS, AND IT'S TRICKY.

>> I DON'T CONTROL IT EITHER.

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>> I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE PARKING LOT WHERE THE COMMERCIAL NODE IS TRICKY.

THAT RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT IS TRICKY THERE.

IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVING ONE WAY IN AND OUT FOR EVEN THE SHORT TERM, I WOULD PREFER IT TO BE MUCH SMOOTHER.

>> I DO TRUST BOTH OUR ENGINEERS, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, AND WORKING WITH TIM AND HIS CREW TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S DONE PROPERLY.

I'M NOT A PE, AND I DON'T PRETEND.

>> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT JUST LIKE THOSE, AND I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

I UNDERSTOOD. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT'S COME IN.

I APPRECIATE FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PIN.

THERE'S A NEED. I RECOGNIZE THAT.

I JUST APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME SORT THROUGH ALL THE THOUGHTS.

>> ANYTHING FINAL? WITH THAT, WE'LL START WITH ITEM.

FIRST MOTION, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO PASS THE ORDINANCE, REZONING PROPERTY FROM AG AND CP3 PLANNED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO RP4 AND RP2 RESIDENTIAL PLANNED INTERMEDIATE.

SECOND. MOTION BY CRAIG.

SECOND BY JOHN MICHAEL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

>> AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED?

>> NO.

>> MOTION PASSES. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMPANION CONCEPT AND PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR THE SOLERA DEVELOPMENT.

MOTION BY JOHN MICHAEL.

SECOND BY CRAIG. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

>> AYE.

>> THOSE OPPOSED?

>> NO.

>> MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT, NUMBER 10 IS A CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO

[10. Consideration of an amendment to the 2025-2029 Capital Improvement Program and an amendment to the construction contract for the construction and relocation of the Lenexa LiveWell Employee Health Clinic Project]

THE 2025-2029 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND RELOCATION OF LENEXA LIVEWELL EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC.

ITEM 10A IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE CIP TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR LIVEWELL.

ITEM 10B IS APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 1 TO THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH NEWKIRK NOVAK.

FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF LIVEWELL.

HI, TODD. DON'T HAVE IT TONIGHT.

>> GOOD EVENING. TODD PELHAM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND ALSO THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS REQUEST.

WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING OUR TEAM FORWARD TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR LIVEWELL EMPLOYEE HEALTH CLINIC TONIGHT.

WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM HERE.

I GOT THE NEWKIRK ORANGE UP THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THAT? THAT WAS FOR OUR NEWKIRK TEAM.

BUT AS YOU PROBABLY PREVIOUSLY REMEMBERED, WE APPROVED TWO CONTRACTS WITH OUR DESIGN TEAM, ONE WITH FINKLE WILLIAMS, AND ONE WITH NEWKIRK NOVAK CONSTRUCTION.

IT WAS A TWO PHASED IMPLEMENTATION BECAUSE OF THE RELOCATION OF SOME OF THE THINGS OF THE PREVIOUS CITY HALL.