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CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
JENNIFER, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? THANK YOU, MAYOR.
[APPROVE MINUTES]
ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.MOTION BY COURTNEY. SECOND BY MELANIE.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
JENNIFER, ANY MODIFICATIONS THIS EVENING? NONE THIS EVENING.
[PRESENTATIONS]
WE HAVE MIKE GIVE A QUICK INTRODUCTION.TONIGHT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTY BAUMANN, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF UCS.
UCS PARTNERED WITH US FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FULL RECOMMENDATION REPORTS IN YOUR PACKETS.
AS WELL AS THIS PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO HIT A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ON THE SLIDES.
DO YOU WANT ME TO ROLL THROUGH BOTH PRESENTATIONS AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS OR TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER EACH ONE? LET'S PAUSE IN BETWEEN THE FIRST AND THE SECOND PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL START OFF WITH THE HUMAN SERVICE FUND.
SORRY, FOR SOME REASON, I PRINTED MY PAPER.
THIS IS A REALLY EXTRAORDINARY FUND THAT BRINGS TOGETHER THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES IN JOHNSON COUNTY TO POOL FUNDS TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A GREATER IMPACT IN TERMS OF PROVIDING SERVICES AND RESOURCES FOR FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING AT OR BELOW 200% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.
THIS IS A FUND THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1990, UCS HAS BEEN ADMINISTERING THIS FUND SINCE THAT TIME AND WHAT I WANT TO DO TODAY IS REALLY JUST KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR HOW TO SPEND THE FUNDS IN 2025.
THESE FUNDS ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE DETERMINED BY THE HUMAN SERVICE FUND COMMITTEE.
SO THE PROGRAMS FALL INTO THREE PRIMARY AREAS.
THESE ARE WELL-BEING PERSONAL SAFETY AND STABILITY OF JOHNSON COUNTY RESIDENTS.
THEY ARE PROGRAMS THAT FIT WITHIN SAFETY NET INVESTMENTS AND THEY, AS I SAID THEY'RE MEANT TO SERVE FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING AT OR BELOW 200% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL. THIS REPRESENTS ACTUALLY ABOUT 15% OF THE JOHNSON COUNTY POPULATION.
SO SINCE 1990, THIS FUND HAS AWARDED OVER $8 MILLION TO SUPPORT JOHNSON COUNTY RESIDENTS IN NEED.
DURING THE 2023 CYCLE, WHICH IS THE MOST RECENT CLOSED GRANT CYCLE, THE HUMAN SERVICE FUND SERVED OVER 58,000 JOHNSON COUNTY RESIDENTS, WITH OVER 175,000 UNITS OF SERVICE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A UNIT OF SERVICE, WE MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE, LET'S SAY A $30 GAS CARD, RIGHT? SO MAYBE AN ORGANIZATION IS PROVIDING A GAS CARD TO SOMEBODY.
WELL, THAT'S A UNIT OF SERVICE.
BUT WHEN YOU THINK MORE ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, THAT $30 GAS CARD COULD BE THE REASON WHY SOMEBODY MAKES IT TO THEIR JOB AND KEEPS THEIR JOB, AND THAT COULD BE THE REASON THEY STAY STABLY HOUSED.
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SO FOR 2025, WE HAD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE.WE HAD $473,140, WITH ABOUT 444,000 TO AWARD FOR 2025, WE RECEIVED 21 APPLICATIONS.
WE DID AGAIN SEE A GAP BETWEEN WHAT THE REQUESTS WERE FOR GRANT FUNDS AND WHAT WE HAD AVAILABLE.
IT WAS ABOUT $100,000, THAT OF A GAP.
THIS YEAR WE HAD WE CONTINUED OUR SMALL GRANT PROGRAM.
WE ESTABLISHED A SMALL GRANT PROGRAM WITHIN HSF A FEW YEARS AGO, AND THAT WAS PRIMARILY TO PROVIDE SMALLER, NEWER ORGANIZATIONS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO START RECEIVING GRANT FUNDING TO KIND OF GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN HOW TO MANAGE GRANT FUNDING, TO PROVIDE THEM WITH TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY TO BE ABLE TO AID THEM TO RECEIVE LARGER AMOUNTS OF FUNDING FROM OTHER FOUNDATIONS AND FUNDERS.
AND SO THIS YEAR, WE HAVE A NEW APPLICANT, FOUNTAIN OF LIFE AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEY SUPPORT HEALTH EQUITY FOR ASIAN AMERICAN PACIFIC ISLANDERS HERE IN JOHNSON COUNTY AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTER OF SHAWNEE AND THEY PRIMARILY ARE PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION SUPPORTS FOR RESIDENTS.
OVERALL, WE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO 18 REGULAR GRANTEES.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THE LARGE LIST OF RETURNING GRANTEES.
ONE GRANTEE WAS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING.
AS I SAID, THIS IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS.
AND SO NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT THEY WANT.
AND IF WE'RE NOT SEEING THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FROM GRANTEES, THAT CAN RESULT IN THEM RECEIVING A LOWER OVERALL SCORE FROM THE HUMAN SERVICE FUND COMMITTEE.
AND SO AS A RESULT, ECKAN DID NOT RECEIVE FUNDING FOR THIS CYCLE AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE HERE IS JUST LOOKING AT HOW THE FUNDS BASICALLY END UP SPLIT THROUGH THESE THREE MAIN CATEGORIES SO YOU CAN SEE HEALTH, WELLNESS AND SAFETY, BASIC NEEDS AND WORK AND INCOME SUPPORT.
SO WELLNESS HEALTH AND SAFETY.
THIS COULD BE SUPPORT FOR SAY SAFE HOME FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT BASIC NEEDS, YOU COULD BE THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM HOUSING TO FOOD SUPPORTS AND THEN FOR WORK AND INCOME, YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT CHILDCARE SUPPORTS OR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN SOMETIMES ADDRESSING CHILD ABUSE ISSUES.
SO THAT IS KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE HUMAN SERVICE FUND RECOMMENDATIONS.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT THEMSELVES OR HOW THE FUND OPERATES.
DO YOU WANT TO DO THE VOTE ON THAT ONE AND THEN MOVE FORWARD OR JUST DO THEM BOTH TOGETHER? THAT WE'RE ON CONSENT? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO THROW YOU A BUNCH OF ACRONYMS IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH ALREADY.
AND PER KANSAS STATUTE, A PORTION OF THIS MONEY IS RETURNED TO THE JURISDICTIONS TO BE ABLE TO FUND PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS ALCOHOL ABUSE PREVENTION AND TREATMENT AND SO LENEXA, FOR INSTANCE, IS LARGE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HAVE PER DRINK TAXES AND SO THOSE RETURN BACK TO THE CITY, AND THEN LENEXA DETERMINES WHAT PROPORTION OF THAT FUNDING WILL GO INTO THE ALCOHOL TAX FUND, THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NEWER FUND YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL PURPOSE REVENUE FUND DISTRIBUTED BY THE KANSAS ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO MUNICIPALITIES THAT JOINED THE STATEWIDE OPIOID SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
SO THESE FUNDS ARE BASED ON EACH MUNICIPALITY'S POPULATION AND THEIR USE FOR PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES THAT PROTECT, PREVENT, REDUCE, TREAT OR MITIGATE THE EFFECTS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND ADDICTION.
NOW, THESE FUNDS ARE ARE DISTRIBUTED BY THE DRUG AND ALCOHOLISM COUNCIL.
SO THE DAC THESE IS MADE UP OF FOLKS FROM PARTICIPATING JURISDICTIONS.
SO WE TRY TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITIES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE ALCOHOL TAX FUND.
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EVERY 3 TO 5 YEARS, THE DAC COMES TOGETHER TO DEVELOP NEW PRIORITIES FOR FUNDING AND THEN ONCE A YEAR, THEY REVIEW THE GRANT APPLICATIONS AND AGAIN, THIS IS A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS JUST LIKE HSF.SO UCS HAS SUPPORTED THIS PROCESS SINCE 1980 AND LET'S SEE I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE YOU CAN AGAIN SEE WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION IS IN TERMS OF WHAT EACH JURISDICTION IS CONTRIBUTING, BOTH TO THE OSF AND TO ATF.
THESE SERVICES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT AND REALLY VITAL.
I USE A LOT OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES, BUT IF YOU TAKE A SMALLER COMMUNITY, FOR INSTANCE, THAT MAYBE DOESN'T HAVE AS LARGE OF A POPULATION AND DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH MONEY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND, BY CONTRIBUTING THEIR FUND AND POOLING THE FUNDS, THEY REALLY PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF THEIR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO BENEFIT IN WAYS THAT THEY MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND SUPPORTS TO THEIR RESIDENTS.
SO THE POOLING OF THE FUNDS IS, AGAIN, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF THESE DOLLARS.
FOR 2025, WE HAD 24 TOTAL APPLICATIONS.
FOLKS REQUESTED NEARLY 3.8 MILLION.
WE HAD ABOUT $1 MILLION TO OR $3 MILLION TO DISTRIBUTE.
YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE WHO RECEIVED THEIR FULL REQUEST AND WHICH ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVED INCREASES IN FUNDING AND THEN ALSO HERE YOU CAN SEE LEVEL FUNDING AND THEN REDUCED FUNDING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SUF, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE COMMITTEES? AND IF SO, WHO IS IT? YEAH, I BELIEVE STEVEN STROUT IS ON THE SUBSTANCE USE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE HUMAN SERVICES FUND PRESENTLY.
OKAY. WE HAVE IN THE PAST, WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
YEAH. WE'VE BEEN WITH YOU A LONG TIME.
I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD THE WAY YOU GET THE REVENUE FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, AND YOU FUNNEL THROUGH YOU AND YOUR COMMITTEES ON WHERE IT WILL DO THE MOST GOOD.
I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO MANAGE THIS AS A COMPETITIVE GRANT PROCESS, BECAUSE IT ENSURES THAT THE JURISDICTIONS DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, AND THEY'RE BEING DISTRIBUTED TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT PRODUCE THE RESULTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE.
OKAY. UP NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
THERE ARE 11 ITEMS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA.CITY MANAGER OR MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
IN THE EVENT THE ITEM IS REMOVED, IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.
ANYONE WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH 11 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[12. Public hearing to consider the recommended Fiscal Year 2025-2029 Capital Improvement Plan]
NATE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.AS YOU MENTIONED, MAYOR, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE RECOMMENDED CIP FOR 25 THROUGH 2029.
AGAIN TONIGHT, COUNCIL WON'T BE TAKING ANY ACTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE PLAN.
JUST RECEIVING PUBLIC FEEDBACK THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE DETAILS OF THE CIP TONIGHT, SINCE WE'VE HAD THE OVERVIEW PRESENTATION AND THE DOCUMENTS POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE, I WILL MENTION THAT 54 CAPITAL PROJECTS WERE INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN.
FOR A TOTAL COST OF 208.6 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
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WE DID HAVE ONE SMALL UPDATE SINCE WE PRESENTED IT ON NOVEMBER 12TH.WE HAD ALLOCATED EXCISE TAX FUNDING FOR THAT PROJECT AND THE ORIGINAL CIP THAT WE PRESENTED.
JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF NOTES FOR EVERYONE BEFORE WE START THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU'RE ALL HERE AND ENGAGED WITH THE PROCESS.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK AS ON THE CIP AS A WHOLE OR ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
THE COUNCIL WILL NOT TAKE ANY ACTION.
THERE WILL BE NO VOTES TONIGHT ON WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CIP.
THAT ACTION IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR OUR NEXT MEETING ON DECEMBER 17TH.
LASTLY, WE ARE AWARE THAT MANY OF YOU HERE TONIGHT ARE TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE LONE ELM INTERCHANGE PROJECT, WHICH IS A PART OF CDOT'S K-10 PROJECT. FOR CONTEXT, THE LONE ELM INTERCHANGE IS ALREADY PART OF THE CITY'S EXISTING ADOPTED CIP AND HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE LONE ELM PROJECT, A MEETING WILL BE HELD HERE IN CITY HALL ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 12TH AT 7PM, WHERE CITY STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVES OF CDOT WILL BE PRESENT AND YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND.
WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURE FOR THAT IS TO PLEASE COME UP TO EITHER ONE OF THE PODIUMS. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS.
I'M ALEXIS GETZLAF AND MY ADDRESS IS 9722 MILL RIDGE DRIVE AND I WILL MOVE PRETTY QUICKLY BECAUSE I HAD A STATEMENT PLANNED FOR FIVE MINUTES. SO I'M GOING TO WORK MY WAY THROUGH IT.
THANK YOU. SO I HAVE LIVED IN LENEXA FOR 11 YEARS.
WE MOVED ACROSS THE STREET SPECIFICALLY SO WE WOULDN'T GROW OUT OF LIVING HERE.
WE WANTED TO STAY AND WE PLANNED TO FOR AS LONG AS I CAN IMAGINE.
WE HAVE FOUR KIDS THAT ARE ALL WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE OLATHE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND WE OFTEN THINK TO OURSELVES, WHAT IF LONE ELM WENT THROUGH OFTEN ALL THE TIME? I CAN'T EVEN COUNT THE NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE SAID THAT TO MYSELF AND THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE WALKING TO FRIENDS HOUSES IN BRIGHTON LANDING OR PRAIRIE POINT OR MILL CREEK FARMS, OR MY KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AT THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOL OR THEIR HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH ARE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF K-10 AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE SAFETY OF PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE ABILITY OF THIS ROUTE IS WOULD CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE ACCESS THAT AREA AND CREATE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES AND CREATE A GREAT, SAFE OPTION FOR KIDS TO ACCESS THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LONE ELM.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ACCESSING THAT SCHOOL, AND MANY OF THEM ARE ACCESSING IT VIA 101ST, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WILL BECOME AN ACCESS WAY FROM LONE ELM OVER TO A PROPOSED BUSINESS PARK, ADDING IN SEMI TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO THIS IS NOT JUST A ROAD, IT IS NOT AN INTERCHANGE.
WE DO WANT THE DEVELOPMENT WE KNOW THE CITY NEEDS TO GROW.
HOWEVER, WE REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY THAT 101ST AND LONE ELM IS USED BY THE RESIDENTS AND THE SCHOOLS IN BOTH LENEXA AND OLATHE. SO I THINK THAT I REALLY JUST WANT YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE FUTURE MEETING, BUT I'M GOING TO WANT TO PROVIDE MY COMMENTS HERE THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ABILITY FOR KIDS TO SAFELY WALK VERSUS CREATING STRESS ON THE BUSSING
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SYSTEM, TRAFFIC DUMPING ON TOP OF A MIDDLE SCHOOL AND A HIGH SCHOOL, HIGHLY CONDENSED SCHOOL TRAFFIC AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LONE ELM.SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS CREATING A WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE COMMUNITY AND I REALLY BELIEVE THAT LENEXA HAS PRIORITIZED THAT IN ITS PROGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE COURSE ALL OF THE CITY.
IF I LOOK AROUND, I SEE THE WAY THAT WE BALANCE BUSINESS INTERESTS AND COMMUNITY INTERESTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS AND THE WAYS THAT WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS, REDUCING TRAFFIC ON LONE ELM AND OR I'M SORRY, ON WOODLAND AND K-7, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH AN OVERPASS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
AUXILIARY LANES ON THOSE EXITS WOULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
WE NEED THE THIRD LANE, AND WE NEED THE AUXILIARY LANES ON THOSE TRAFFIC ON THOSE EXITS OFF OF K-10.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT THE INTERCHANGE WON'T HELP US IS NOT NEEDED IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT CONGESTION AND THE DOWNSIDES OF IT ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, FOR OUR SOUTH SIDE, NEIGHBORS ARE VERY LARGE AND SO I WOULD JUST REALLY LIKE US TO RECONSIDER AN INTERCHANGE AT LONE ELM IN FAVOR OF AN OVERPASS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A CONNECTED, WALKABLE, BIKEABLE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU. ALEXIS. BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR SIGNS DOWN.
IT IS DISTRACTING, AND WE'D LIKE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS TO BE EQUALLY HEARD.
THANK YOU. WHO'S NEXT? GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY PREPARED NOTES, SO THIS WILL BE SHORT.
YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? DANIEL BROWN, 21703 WEST 98TH TERRACE, LENEXA, ALSO IN MANCHESTER PARK.
AT THAT TIME, THE DISCUSSION FOR LOAN EXTENSION WAS TO BE AN OVERPASS.
AS FAR AS I ALWAYS KNEW OR HEARD, IT WAS TO BE AN OVERPASS.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DISCUSSION NOW IS ALL ABOUT AN INTERCHANGE WHOLLY UNSCIENTIFIC SURVEY.
BUT I'VE ASKED A LOT OF PEOPLE, AND I HAVE YET TO COME ACROSS ANYBODY THAT'S SUPPORTIVE OF AN INTERCHANGE AND EVERYBODY HAS ALWAYS UNDERSTOOD AN OVERPASS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN, AND NOBODY'S OBJECTED TO THAT THAT I'VE COME ACROSS.
BUT ONE QUESTION, AND MAYBE IF I COULD ASK IT, HAS OLATHE AGREED TO EXCHANGE IF THE BRIDGE IS BUILT, IF IT'S GOING TO GO ON INTO, AS WE SAID, MR. BROWN, WE WON'T BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS THIS EVENING.
OKAY. SORRY. DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
ANYWAY, PERSONALLY, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY I'M FOR AN OVERPASS.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO QUEUE UP BEHIND ONE ANOTHER, WE CAN MAKE THIS GO A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
I'M NOT HERE REGARDING THE INTERCHANGE.
OKAY. I OWN PROPERTY AT 24525 WEST 83RD STREET IN LENEXA THAT I BOUGHT TWO YEARS AGO, AND THEN FOUND OUT EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT THERE'S PLANS TO EXPAND 83RD STREET.
I CAME HERE BECAUSE I HAD QUESTIONS, BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
MY CONCERN IS A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES ALONG 83RD STREET SIT VERY CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
THE CURRENT ROAD SITS ABOUT 60FT FROM MY HOUSE AT THE MOMENT.
I'VE ALREADY HAD MY MAILBOX TAKEN OUT TWICE IN THE TWO YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE.
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FIND DEFINITIVE PLANS.I ORIGINALLY TALKED TO TRENT GREEN.
I EMAILED HIM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
I TALKED TO HIM ORIGINALLY IN APRIL.
HE SENT ME THE ROUGH THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
EXPANDING. THAT WAS THE ROUGH THOUGHTS.
I EMAILED HIM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO SEE WHERE WE WERE IN THE PROCESS.
TALKED TO SOMEBODY LAST WEEK BECAUSE HE WAS OUT.
I THINK IT WAS MAYBE AN ENGINEER.
AS TO WHAT THEY'RE DOING ORIGINALLY WAS SPRING WAS TRAFFIC STUDY.
FALL WAS TALKED TO AFFECTED PROPERTY.
MAYBE PROPERTY ACQUISITION IN THE SUMMER.
WHO WOULD BE THE CONTACT PERSON IF YOU'LL.
THERE IS STILL DISCUSSION AND DESIGN AND TRAFFIC AND ALL OF THAT TO GO THROUGH.
BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY MADE DIFFICULT ON PURPOSE TO REALLY FIND INFORMATION.
I HAD TO SORT THROUGH A LOT OF PAST AGENDAS AND NOTES, AND I FOUND THAT THIS MEETING WAS HAPPENING.
AND THEN I TRIED TO GO BACK AND FIND IT, AND I COULDN'T FIND IT A SECOND TIME.
WHEN YOU SEARCH THIS AGENDA, 83RD STREET, THE ONLY THING THAT COMES UP IS THE ANNEXATION REQUEST.
OKAY. THOSE ARE THE ONLY COMMENTS I HAVE.
I LIVE AT 22166 WEST 97TH TERRACE IN MANCHESTER PARK.
I HAVE BEEN LENEXA RESIDENT FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
BOTH MY KIDS WENT TO MANCHESTER PARK.
BOTH MY KIDS GO TO O AND W CURRENTLY BOTH DRIVE AND I WILL SAY I HAVE BEEN IN LENEXA LONG ENOUGH TO SEE WHEN PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY DIDN'T EVEN EXIST. IT DEAD ENDED AT RENNER ROAD.
MY FATHER ACTUALLY WAS A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR THE CITY.
I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT THE FORMER MAYOR OF OLATHE STONEWALLED THIS PROJECT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
I'M AGAINST IT. IT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
HI. TRAVIS KELLER, 21614 WEST 100TH STREET, MANCHESTER PARK.
LIKE A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS, I APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S TIME.
I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I WOULD FAVOR THE OVERPASS TO AN INTERCHANGE AS WELL.
BUT I THINK FROM HAVING SOMEONE WHO'S LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD A OVERPASS WOULD BE SUPER BENEFICIAL IN TERMS OF JUST SAFETY, GETTING KIDS BACK AND FORTH FROM O AND W TO OUR SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY AND HAVING AN INTERCHANGE THERE KIND OF UNDOES A LOT OF THE SAFETY FEATURES OF THAT IN TERMS OF JUST WALKABILITY.
BIKEABILITY HAVING TO NAVIGATE TRAFFIC.
I KNOW I RUN QUITE A BIT AND BIKE QUITE A BIT, AND WHEN I'M TRYING TO CROSS K-10 ON WOODLAND, IT'S ALWAYS JUST A LITTLE SCARY KIND OF GOING THROUGH THOSE INTERCHANGES BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS BUSY AND HEAVY AND PEOPLE ARE IN A HURRY.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST I FEEL LIKE THE OVERPASS WOULD BE SUPER SAFE AND THE INTERCHANGE WOULD REALLY UNDO A LOT OF THAT SAFETY AND BUT AGAIN, THE THE OVERPASS, I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF HAVING A RELIEF VALVE FOR OTHER WAYS FOR KIDS TO EXIT THE SCHOOL, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR MY KIDS, WHEN THEY WERE IN SCHOOL, THEY'RE LEAVING ON W, YOU KNOW, GOING RIGHT TO GET ON TO K SEVEN TO COME BACK TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS MORE THAN I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO.
I JUST THINK LIKE THE INTERCHANGE WOULD SORT OF OFFSET SOME OF THOSE SAFETY BENEFITS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
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THANK YOU. HI THERE.COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING, I'M BECKY JOHNSON.
SAY YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS LAYLA AND I LIVE IN THE SAME PLACE AS HER AND THEN YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TALK? I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE SAFE BECAUSE THERE IS MANY TEENAGER DRIVERS AND CAR CRASH HAPPENING DURING THIS TIME.
ALSO, IT MAY AFFECT BUS PATH TO GET CHILDREN TO SCHOOL AND HOME SAFELY.
ALSO, I THINK IT'S NOT THAT SAFE BECAUSE THERE ARE HOUSES THERE, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE CAUSE OF DAMAGE ON FENCES ON OR HOUSE DUE TO CAR CRASHES.
THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD NOT PUT THAT THERE.
THIS WILL IMPACT APPROXIMATELY 4000 STUDENTS IN THE OLATHE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THERE'S FIVE SCHOOLS THAT IT WOULD AFFECT.
MY CHILDREN HAD TO WALK TO SCHOOL FOR AN ENTIRE SCHOOL YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS AND SO I JUST HAD TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF OPTION FOR THEM TO GET TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND THEY HAD TO WALK DIRECTLY ACROSS LONE ELM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
SO IF YOU PUT IN AN OVERPASS AND INTERCHANGE IT WILL IMPACT THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD THINK ABOUT BUS ELIGIBILITY AND AVAILABILITY FOR THOSE STUDENTS IN IN OLATHE NORTHWEST AND PRAIRIE TRAIL, THOSE SCHOOLS SOUTH OF OF K-10. I ALSO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANOTHER LOCATION THAT'S LIKE THIS AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA WHERE YOU WOULD CONSIDER AN INTERCHANGE FOR TRAFFIC TO BE RELEASED INTO NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT AREA FOR AN INTERCHANGE TO REALLY BENEFIT, FOR TRAFFIC TO GO OUT.
WE CAN GET OFF ON WOODLAND, WE CAN GET OFF ON K-7.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE TO CONSIDER.
WE'VE LIVED IN LENEXA SINCE 2012, AND WHEN WE PURCHASED OUR HOME, WE HAD BEEN ALSO TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, AN OVERPASS WAS AN OPTION AND SO CONSIDERING THAT LONE ELM IS IN OUR BACKYARD YOU KNOW, MY PARENTS LIVE IN PAOLA, IT'S A PERFECT DISTANCE TO GO SEE THEM.
AND THEN I LIVE IN I WORK IN KANSAS CITY AND SO LENEXA HAS BEEN REALLY A GREAT HOME FOR US.
I NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT THAT HAVE COME.
I LIVE AT 22041 WEST 98TH STREET, LENEXA, TO KANSAS.
I'M 22 YEARS OLD AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN LENEXA FOR ALL OF MY LIFE.
I WENT TO MANCHESTER PARK, PRAIRIE TRAIL NORTHWEST.
I DRIVE TO SCHOOL, AND NOW THAT I'M OUT OF COLLEGE, I DRIVE TO WORK, I USE K7 AND I USE WOODLAND, AND NONE OF IT HAS EVER BEEN OF ANY INCONVENIENCE. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME WHERE I HAVE TRULY FELT THAT WE REALLY NEEDED AN INTERCHANGE.
I GREW UP IN FALCON MEADOWS AND THEN MOVED TO MANCHESTER PARK.
I WALKED EVERY DAY FROM FALCON MEADOWS TO MANCHESTER PARK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THIS IS. WE WERE PROMISED BY ROD ROCK THAT THIS WOULD BE A SCHOOL COMMUNITY.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF LIVING IN MANCHESTER PARK IS THAT IT'S A TUCKED AWAY, SAFE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD AND, YOU KNOW, ADDING AN INTERCHANGE WOULD REALLY STRIP THAT AWAY FROM THESE KIDS AND ON TOP OF THAT, I'M A REALTOR.
I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF OTHER REALTORS IN THE AREA.
SELLING YOUR HOME WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE.
THE NOISE POLLUTION, THE CARS, THE LACK OF SAFETY FOR THE CHILDREN.
THAT'S THE MAIN ALLURE OF WHY PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE MANCHESTER PARK.
RIGHT? BUT TO TAKE THAT AWAY, IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY OR SELL A HOME.
THERE'S A 50 YEARS OF STATISTICS.
I JUST I'M VERY FOR AN OVERPASS, BUT AN INTERCHANGE WOULD BE SO UNSAFE.
SO I HOPE YOU ALL LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY AND TAKE THAT INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.I LIVE AT 21611 WEST 99TH STREET.
I'VE LIVED IN MANCHESTER PARK, JUST NORTH OF THE PROPOSED INTERCHANGE FOR NEARLY 19 YEARS.
MANCHESTER PARK ELEMENTARY IS WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION, AND EVERY DAY I SEE YOUNG CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS, MANY OF WHOM HAVE TO CROSS LONE ELM, WALKING OR DRIVING BACK AND FORTH TO SCHOOL THERE.
I'M OF THE VIEW THAT THE PROPOSED PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE NO BENEFITS TO MY NEIGHBORS WHILE BRINGING MANY NEGATIVES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO HOUSES OF WORSHIP THAT REMAIN MOSTLY EMPTY SIX DAYS A WEEK.
THE AREA NORTH OF K-10 AROUND LONE ELM IS EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL, FULL OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT APPEAL TO FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN.
AN INTERCHANGE WOULD BRING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND NOISE TO OUR AREA, AND THE ADDITIONAL THREATS TO SAFETY AND WELL-BEING THAT WOULD ENSUE WITHOUT BRINGING US ANY BENEFITS. AFTER ALL, THERE ARE NO BUSINESSES AT THE PROPOSED SITE OF THE INTERCHANGE.
THUS, THE INTERCHANGE WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL HAZARDS FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN, FOR MOTORISTS, AND FOR THE MANY RESIDENTS OF OUR AREA WHO FREQUENTLY USE OUR QUIET AND UNCONGESTED NEIGHBORHOOD FOR RECREATION WITHOUT BRINGING US SO MUCH AS A CONVENIENCE STORE AT THE END OF THE STREET.
THIS WOULD PROVIDE GREATER SAFETY FOR OUR RESIDENTS NORTH OF K-10, ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN.
THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE AREA COULD USE AN OVERPASS TO MORE EASILY ACCESS THE MANY SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED JUST TO THE SOUTH OF K-10, ESPECIALLY THOSE SCHOOLS AND BUSINESSES NEAR LONE ELM AND COLLEGE BOULEVARD.
MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN COULD MORE EASILY WALK OR BIKE TO SCHOOL THERE, AND NEW TEEN DRIVERS COULD MORE SAFELY DRIVE BETWEEN THEIR HOMES NORTH OF K-10 AND OLATHE NORTHWEST TO THE SOUTH.
ADDITIONALLY, AN OVERPASS AT K-10 AND LONE ELM WOULD EASE THE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION IN THE AREA AROUND K-10 AND WOODLAND ROAD, ONE MILE EAST TO MY EAST.
THIS EASING OF CONGESTION AROUND K-10 AND WOODLAND WOULD BENEFIT THE LENEXA RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR THE INTERCHANGE THERE, AS WELL AS BENEFITING ALL RESIDENTS IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS WHO ROUTINELY ACCESS THE WELL-ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS NEAR THAT INTERCHANGE.
I LIVE AT 21607 WEST 98TH STREET IN THE MANCHESTER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M JUST HERE TO ADD MY VOICE TO OBJECT.
THE CONSIDERATION OF AN INTERCHANGE.
IF THE GOAL IS TO ALLEVIATE K-10 TRAFFIC, I THINK AN OVERPASS WOULD DO THAT BETTER, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE TRAFFIC IS MERELY GOING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF K-10.
SO WE HAVE TO GO TO WOODLAND OR HAVE TO GO TO K-7 IN ORDER TO DO THAT AND I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE HALF OF THE BOUNDARY FOR THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF K-10 FOR NORTHWEST AND PRAIRIE TRAIL, IN ADDITION TO THAT, MANCHESTER PARK, WHICH, AS WE'VE SAID, IS THE LARGEST SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT.
THE MAJORITY OF THOSE STUDENTS LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LONE ELM.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO SIT AT 101ST STREET, WHERE IT TERMINATES AT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND 8:30 IN THE MORNING OR 3:30 IN THE AFTERNOON AND JUST IMAGINE WHAT ADDED COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC WOULD DO THERE IN THE MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT, BUT IT DOES BEG THE QUESTION.
WHY AN INTERCHANGE? WHY THIS INTERCHANGE WOULD BE SO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL WHEN NO OTHER INTERCHANGE IN LENEXA IS THIS CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
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THANK YOU.PHIL KING 21706 WEST 99TH STREET LENEXA.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN LENEXA FOR 17 YEARS.
I HAVE A FOURTH GRADER AT MANCHESTER PARK AND A SEVENTH GRADER AT [INAUDIBLE].
HAVE YOU HEARD THE OLD SAYING THAT WHEN YOU'RE A HAMMER, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL? I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN INTO A SITUATION WITH THIS INTERCHANGE OVERPASS.
IT'S JUST BEEN AN ASSUMPTION AND I THINK THE QUESTION IS, THIS THE BEST SOLUTION TODAY? AND MAYBE THE FACT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR SO LONG, THE ANSWER DEEP DOWN AT THE CORE OF EVERYTHING, IS THAT THIS IS NOT THE BEST SOLUTION.
AND THAT'S WHY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG FOR US TO TRY AND MOVE THIS FORWARD.
SO MY ANSWER IS NO AND UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS, I WOULD ACCEPT AN OVERPASS.
BUT I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF AN OVERPASS.
ELM LOAN ELM IS LINED WITH TWO HOUSES OF WORSHIP, MANY MULTI SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS, A MIDDLE SCHOOL, A HIGH SCHOOL AND A DISTRICT ACTIVITY CENTER. THIS NEW INTERCHANGE WOULD ADD RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC, CREATING CONGESTION AND SAFETY RISK FOR THE CHILDREN.
AS MENTIONED IN THE FAMILIES NORTH OF K10, THAT LONE ELM CORRIDOR IS FULLY DEVELOPED.
YOU CAN WALK DOWN FROM PRAIRIE STAR DOWN TO K-10.
THERE'S ONE SMALL AREA RIGHT AT K-10 THAT IS STILL OPEN THAT I WOULD ASSUME IS BEING HELD FOR INTERCHANGE ACTIVITIES AT SOME POINT IN TIME. SO THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE FURTHER WEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S GOING TO BE WEST OF THE SCHOOL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO RATHER THAN THIS, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING THINGS, MAKING THINGS SAFER, ACTUALLY DO THE OPPOSITE.
THIS WOULD IMPACT THE CHILDREN CROSSING LONE ELM AS THEY WALK TO MANCHESTER PARK.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF LONE ELM THAT DO WALK ON A DAILY BASIS.
THEY DO NOT HAVE BUSSING FROM THAT LOCATION UNLESS THEY PAY FOR IT.
FOR CHILDREN WHO LIVE NORTH OF K-10 IN THE MANCHESTER PARK AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE CHANGE IN LONE ELM, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT MULTIPLE DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT WITH THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS TRAFFIC IT COULD BE A NEW PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY.
IT COULD BE A SHAWNEE MISSION PARKWAY.
IT COULD HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF TRAFFIC AND VARIED TRAFFIC BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF INFLUX.
IF THERE IS AN INTERCHANGE PUT IN HERE AND I THINK THAT JUST CREATES A LOT OF UNNECESSARY RISK FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS ALREADY VERY WELL SETTLED.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF US HAVE SAID NO.
WHAT'S A BETTER OPTION? MY IDEA IS MOVE CLOSER TO WHERE YOU WANT YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT WAS SAID EARLIER, BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT IS DOWN CLOSER TO K-7.
A BETTER INTERCHANGE WOULD BE MONTICELLO.
YOU COULD GO NORTH TO MONTICELLO, PUT IN A ROUNDABOUT TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WOULD BE A BETTER OPTION.
MR. KING, I'LL ASK YOU TO WRAP UP, PLEASE.
OKAY. ACTUALLY, I JUST I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND JUST FROM A SAFETY AND EFFICACY STANDPOINT, I THINK WE CAN FIND A BETTER OPTION.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MATT WILSON.
I'M AT 22042 WEST 97TH TERRACE.
I'M A NEWER RESIDENT TO THE LENEXA.
WE MOVED HERE ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO.
WE LIVED IN THE CITY ABOUT MIRIAM.
SO THIS IS A NEWER ISSUE TO ME, BUT, I WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERN WITH THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
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WE LOVE THE BIKEABILITY, THE WALKING, THE BEING ABLE TO WALK AROUND.IT'S AMAZING TO SEE ALL THE FAMILIES AROUND.
WE WERE BLOWN AWAY BY HALLOWEEN.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY OF WALKING AROUND THE CORNER TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SO I WOULD VOICE MY CONCERN OR OPPOSITION TO ANYTHING THAT MIGHT AFFECT THIS BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'VE MOVED INTO AND GROWN TO LOVE, AND WOULD CERTAINLY LOVE TO HAVE ANY MORE BIKEABILITY OPTIONS THAT ARE POSSIBLE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO MANCHESTER PARK.
03:45 3:30-45 TILL ABOUT 4:15 ON A WEEKDAY WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION, AND YOU CAN SIT AND CHILL OUT WITH ME, AND WE CAN WATCH HOW THE TRAFFIC ENTAILS AND HOW THE KIDS GET HOME ON A DAILY BASIS, AND HOW THIS INTERCHANGE WILL AFFECT THAT IN A VERY NEGATIVE WAY.
BUT I LOVE LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO AGAIN, MY ADDRESS IS 21922 WEST 98TH STREET.
MY NAME IS SHELLY AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE LETS SEE CHRIS, CHELSEA, MELANIE, JULIE, BILL, MARK AND COURTNEY OVER FOR A CUP OF TEA OR COFFEE? COFFEE IS OKAY.
I'M AT 10125 THORNTON CIRCLE IN STONE VIEW.
IF NOBODY UP HERE TAKES ON YOUR INVITATION, I'LL BE GLAD TO FOR YOUR CUP OF COFFEE.
YEAH. RIGHT. I WANTED TO JUST VOICE MY.
YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT I HAVE ALREADY AND I DON'T WANT TO TRY TO REITERATE OR BE A SKIPPING RECORD FOR ALL OF YOU HERE, BUT THE ONE THING MY WIFE AND I MOVED INTO LENEXA JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
WE FOUND OUR DREAM HOME IN STONE VIEW.
WE WANT TO RAISE OUR KIDS THERE.
MY OLDEST IS SEVEN YEARS OLD, ATTENDS MANCHESTER PARK.
HIS SISTER, WHO'S FOUR, AND BROTHER, THAT'S ONE, WILL ALSO BE FOLLOWING HIM THERE AND WILL ALSO BE A PART OF THEIR DUAL IMMERSION PROGRAM, WHICH IS RARE IN THE OLATHE SCHOOL DISTRICT. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT OFFER THAT PROGRAM.
THE ONE THING THAT IS DAUNTING TO ME IS THE FACT THAT THE COMMON THREAD OVER ALL THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, BUT ALSO JUST IN HAPPENSTANCE, TO SPEAK WITH OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE SAME STORY, WHICH IS THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS.
AND YET TODAY I'M HEARING THAT IT WAS ALWAYS A PART OF THE PLAN.
I THINK THAT'S INTRIGUING, KNOWING THAT THIS IS SUCH A AS YOU CAN SEE WHY EVERYONE'S HERE, WHY THIS IS SUCH A DETRIMENTAL THING FOR RESIDENTS AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY OF OLATHE HAS GIVEN US ONE STORY.
KDOT HAS GIVEN ME ANOTHER STORY AND THAT'S WHAT IS CONCERNING TO ME IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER RECONSIDER THIS INTERCHANGE FOR THE SAFETY, FOR OBVIOUSLY, THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE NEARBY AND TO REITERATE WHAT ONE GENTLEMAN ALREADY STATED TONIGHT, THIS INTERCHANGE IS UNLIKE ANYWHERE ELSE IN LENEXA.
THERE'S NO OTHER INTERCHANGE IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND FRANKLY, I DIDN'T BUY A HOME IN LENEXA FOR MY VALUE TO BE YOU KNOW, JEOPARDIZED IN A LONG TERM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ARROYO. HI, THERE.
I LIVE OFF OF 108 FT IN CIRCLE.
THANK YOU. SHE SAID THAT 60FT FROM THE ROAD TO BE EXTENDED WOULD BE TOO CLOSE.
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I THINK THE HOUSES ARE ABOUT 120FT FROM A MAJOR INTERCHANGE THAT KIDS LIVE ON WITH NO FENCES, NO TREES, NO NOTHING.I LIVE CLOSE ENOUGH TO K-10, WHERE I CAN DRIVE PAST AND SEE IF I LEFT MY GARAGE DOOR OPEN.
SO I'VE ALWAYS HAD A DREAM THAT THERE WOULD BE A JUST LINED WITH TREES, OR MAYBE A SOUND BARRIER.
BECAUSE IF WE DRIVE DOWN 435 THERE ARE HOUSES THAT CLOSE, BUT THEY HAVE A SOUND BARRIER.
I SLEEP ON THE LEFT SIDE BECAUSE MY WIFE CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE OF THE ROAD.
NOT SAYING THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I'VE ALWAYS HAD, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE FIXED.
I DON'T WANT TO BE BOXED INTO AN INTERCHANGE AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO BEAUTIFY THIS AREA, MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN I DROVE PAST LENEXA, I SAW THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE INTERCHANGE.
YOU SEE THE OUTSIDE, YOU SEE THE INSIDE.
IT'S LIKE THERE'S A SCHOOL THERE.
THERE IS A HOPEFULLY ANOTHER GROCERY STORE.
THIS IS NOT A PLACE THAT IS A COOKIE CUTTER.
IT'S NOT A COOKIE CUTTER PLACE, SO LET'S NOT MAKE IT LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE.
HELLO. MY NAME IS MATTHEW LEE.
I'M AT 10229 EDEN CIRCLE IN THE STONE VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
I APPRECIATE A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
I ECHO WHAT'S BEEN SAID TONIGHT.
I CAME HERE TO COMPLAIN THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN ANY OUTREACH FROM THE CITY ON THIS MATTER.
BUT THERE'S A MEETING ON THE 12TH, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
SO I WON'T HARP ON THAT TOO MUCH.
I'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH KDOT IN THEIR OPEN HOUSES.
THEY'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE SOMEWHAT NEUTRAL IN THE MATTER.
THEY'RE TAKING CUES FROM LENEXA.
SO I'M HOPING WE CAN APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT TO LET COMMON SENSE PREVAIL HERE.
THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF LENEXA, WHERE THERE IS HIGHWAY TRAFFIC DUMPED INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT A SINGLE INTERCHANGE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
LOOK AT WOODLAND, LOOK AT RENNER, LOOK AT PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY AND K-7.
LOOK AT ALL THE INTERCHANGES ALONG 435 OR 35.
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PRECEDENT FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AT LONE ELM AND SO WE'VE HEARD ON A FEW DIFFERENT OCCASIONS THE CITY STATE THAT THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE PLAN ALL ALONG.
I THINK THERE WAS RECENTLY AN ARTICLE WRITTEN REFLECTING MORE OF OLATHE'S OPINION OF THE MATTER.
I THINK THEY'RE JUSTIFIED IN BEING AGAINST THIS, BUT THERE WAS A QUOTE FROM I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO, BUT CITY MANAGEMENT, INDICATING THAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALLEVIATING TRAFFIC ON WOODLAND.
I'VE YET TO MEET A NEIGHBOR THAT WOULD STATE THAT THERE IS A TRAFFIC ISSUE AT WOODLAND. SO HOW DID WE GET HERE? THERE'S NO PRECEDENT FOR AN INTERCHANGE DUMPING INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, YOU KNOW, YET THE CITY CLAIMS THAT IT'S BEEN YOU KNOW, PROPOSED FOR A LONG TIME.
I WAS AT THE CITY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING A FEW MONTHS AGO WHERE THIS WAS ADOPTED INTO THE VISION 2020 PLAN.
I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME IT WAS FORMALIZED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN LOOKED AT AND STUDIED FOR MANY YEARS.
I WOULD REFUTE AGAIN THAT THIS HAS BEEN YOU KNOW EFFECTIVE PLANNING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOWS QUITE A BIT OF LACK OF PLANNING.
IN THE MEANTIME, THERE'S POEMS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT RIGHT THERE.
WE'LL HAVE YOU WRAP UP, PLEASE.
OKAY. SO THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE THERE THAT WOULD BE SEVERELY IMPACTED, THAT EXTREME PROXIMITY OF THAT HIGHWAY TRAFFIC DUMPING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY HAS NO PRECEDENT.
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SO I WOULD JUST STATE MY, OPPOSITION THERE IN THAT SENSE AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.I LIVE IN THE MANCHESTER PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY NAME TO THOSE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO AN INTERCHANGE, BUT IN FAVOR OF AN OVERPASS.
ONE OF THE WORDS I HAVE NOT HEARD SURFACED HERE IN LISTENING TO EVERYTHING, IS THE IDEA OF HUMAN SCALE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HUMAN SCALED IN TERMS OF CITY PLANNING? SO WHEN YOU DO MAKE YOUR WAY OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME COFFEE OR TEA AT A NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, DO STOP BY K10 AND WOODLAND AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT INTERCHANGE AND IMAGINE EITHER BEING A SENIOR CITIZEN LIKE MYSELF AND WANTING TO SAFELY WALK ALONG THERE TO CONTINUE YOUR WALK SOUTH, OR BEING A PARENT SENDING YOUR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, TO TO MIDDLE SCHOOL THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE K-10 AND WOODLAND. IT'S SCARY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ON BIKE OR ON FOOT THERE AND SO I THINK ABOUT HUMAN SCALE.
SO LIFE OF THE COMMUNITY AND FLOURISHING OF CONNECTION TO NATURE AND YOU KNOW, GOOD VALUES THAT SUPPORT PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES IS WHAT WE'RE ABOUT HERE IN LENEXA.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, SO I KNOW THIS IN MY HEART.
SO I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE MOVE TOWARDS AN OVERPASS FOR THE SAKE OF IT BEING MORE HUMAN.
SCALE FOR CHILDREN, YOUNG DRIVERS, SENIOR CITIZENS, CYCLISTS, PEOPLE OF ALL AGES SO THAT WE PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF CAN ACCESS THE TRAILS SOUTH OF K10.
I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
THANK YOU, TINA. HI, I'M JESSIE RYAN.
I DIDN'T ONLY WAS COMING FOR INFORMATION AND DID NOT PLAN ON SPEAKING.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW MY YARD IS FLAT WITH K-10.
SO IF YOU BUILD AN OVERPASS, YOU'LL GET TO SEE ME IN MY BACKYARD AND MY KIDS.
I WONDER IF, RATHER THAN BUILDING A BRIDGE OR OVERPASS OR WHATEVER, TO COME OVER.
WHAT IF YOU BUILT YOUR OWN MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL? BECAUSE YOU DO CONTINUE TO GROW, AND I KNOW THAT MORE SUBDIVISIONS KEEP BEING ADDED.
IF YOU CAN'T GET YOUR OWN SCHOOLS, I WONDER IF MAYBE THE OVERPASS COULD BE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF PRT WHERE THERE'S LIKE A CRICKET FIELD AND THERE'S NO HOUSES TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PEOPLE LIVING UNDER BRIDGES BY THAT'S REALLY THAT'S ALL.
THANKS FOR COMING OUT. THANK YOU.
WE WANTED TO FIND A PLACE THAT WAS SIMILAR TO THE WOODLANDS.
IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO GO THERE BEFORE.
A PLANNED COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT JUST COOKIE CUTTER HOUSES AND LITERALLY IN ALL OF KANSAS CITY METRO, THERE'S ONLY TWO PLACES I BELIEVE THAT ARE TO THIS SIMILAR PLACE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE FALCON AREA AND ALSO IN CEDAR CREEK.
IF YOU GO TO LEAWOOD, IF YOU GO TO OVERLAND PARK, IT'S ALL COOKIE CUTTER BLOCKS AND THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT OUR AREA AND DEFINITELY BY PUTTING THAT INTERCHANGE WOULD CHANGE IT TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENTION WAS.
BEFORE WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE 18 YEARS AGO, I LOOKED AT ALL THE PROPOSALS OF OLATHE OF LENEXA TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING TO BE PLANNED IN DIFFERENT AREAS, AND I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE FOR YEARS, WAS ALWAYS CALLING THE CITY, SAYING, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING OVER THE BRIDGE? YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASIER FOR OUR KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL.
YOU NEVER BUILD IT AND I GUESS I ASKED THE QUESTION, WHY DO WE DO EVEN ALL THESE STUDIES TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WHEN YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CHANGE YOUR MIND LATER ON.
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OLETHA DID A STUDY ON WOODLAND, SAYING THEY WERE GOING TO CONSERVE THAT ALL AS GREEN SPACE, AND THEN THEY JUST TRIED TO PUSH APARTMENTS IN THAT AREA UNTIL ALL OF US AS RESIDENTS PUSHED BACK AND YOU GUYS KEEP DOING STUDIES AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN 20 YEARS, BUT YOU'RE NOT BEING HONEST WITH US AND YOU'RE BASICALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE.BUT MANY TIMES US AS RESIDENTS FEEL LIKE YOU'RE MORE REPRESENTING THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES COMING IN, THE NEW BUSINESSES COMING IN AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S GROWTH, IT'S THIS AND THERE'S A LOT OF EXCUSES.
WE ARE DEMANDING WHAT WE ORIGINALLY MOVED HERE FOR AND WE'RE NOT REALLY HAPPY.
SO WE WILL SEEK DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LET OUR VOICE BE HEARD.
WE LIKE OUR AREA THE WAY IT IS, AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE DALLAS.
WE DIDN'T MOVE TO KANSAS CITY TO BE IN THESE OTHER PLACES, SO I'M OPPOSED.
HI, MY NAME IS MEGAN MORFORD AND I LIVE AT 21623 WEST 100TH STREET AND I'VE LIVED IN MANCHESTER PARK FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS. PRIOR TO THAT, I LIVED IN OLATHE FOR 12 YEARS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF K-10.
I WAS JUST HERE TO SUPPORT MY NEIGHBORS AND ECHO EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE ALREADY SAID.
BUT THERE'S A COUPLE POINTS I WANTED TO INCLUDE FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE.
BUT MANCHESTER PARK IS THE LARGEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BY FAR, AND THE LAST TIME THAT I KNEW THERE WERE 650 STUDENTS THERE. A THIRD OF THEM WALK, A THIRD OF THEM GET BUSED, AND A THIRD OF THEM GET THERE BY CAR WITH THEIR PARENT.
HOW THEY HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION AND THE WAYS THAT KIDS GET TO SCHOOL NOW IS ALREADY AT A MAX.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS OLATHE ACTUALLY DID AN OVERPASS SEVERAL YEARS AGO INSTEAD OF AN INTERCHANGE ON 127TH STREET, BECAUSE THAT OVERPASS IS BETWEEN TWO MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HAS RESIDENTS THERE.
SO THEY WERE VERY STRATEGIC IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY DIDN'T INTERRUPT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TRAFFIC AND THE RESIDENT TRAFFIC BY CREATING AN INTERCHANGE.
THEY DID AN OVERPASS INSTEAD, WHICH DID ALLEVIATE A LOT OF CONGESTION ON THE OTHER STREETS GOING EAST AND WEST AND I BELIEVE THAT AN OVERPASS ON LONE ELM WOULD DO THE SAME THING FOR OUR NORTH AND SOUTH TRAFFIC.
HI. MY NAME IS MONICA SOLOMON.
YOU HEARD FROM MY HUSBAND A MOMENT AGO? BUT HE DIDN'T MENTION THE THING I WAS HOPING HE WOULD MENTION, SO I'M GOING TO MENTION IT.
I WAS JUST LIKE. YOU KNOW WHAT? I WILL SAY SOMETHING.
INTERCHANGE THAT WE'RE TALKING OR JUST A NORTH EXIT, OR HOWEVER THE DYNAMIC WOULD BE THERE.
IT'S NOT EVEN A FULL TWO MILES TO HAVE A THIRD EXIT WITHIN THAT DISTANCE.
IT'S ALREADY CONGESTED WHERE YOU HAVE.
IT'S A BENEFIT TO US THAT RENNER HAS THAT TURNABOUT TO ACTUALLY GET OFF THE HIGHWAY, BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE SOME CARS DISTANCE FROM EACH OTHER. WHEN YOU'RE COMING OFF OF THAT TEN TURN INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT AREAS, THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THAT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING THAT DISTANCE AND YOU GO ON THAT RENNER EXIT, ACTUALLY THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO GET ON THAT NORTH EXIT ONTO RENNER.
WHEN YOU HAVE WOODLAND, IT DOES GET BACKED UP A LITTLE BIT HERE AND THERE.
WE'RE ALL NEIGHBORS AND WE'RE ALL PRETTY FINE WITH THAT BACKUP UP AT 5:00.
YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HIT TRAFFIC NO MATTER WHAT.
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TO EVERYONE TRYING TO GET OFF OF THE HIGHWAY JAMMING AND EVERYONE CUTTING EACH OTHER OFF.I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BECOME BETTER DRIVERS BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER INTERCHANGE.
IT'S JUST TOO SHORT OF A DISTANCE.
IF YOU REALLY SIT ON THAT AT THE 5:00 TIME FRAME, PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF OF WORK.
PARENTS ARE PICKING UP THEIR KIDS ONLY, WHAT, AN HOUR BEFOREHAND IF YOU ACTUALLY SIT IN THAT AND I'VE WATCHED IT, I HAVE LOOKED SITTING THERE AND I'VE GOT A BABY CRYING IN THE BACK SEAT. I'M LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE TRYING TO GET HOME.
LIKE, I REALLY HAVE CONSIDERED EVERY SINGLE EXIT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND IT'S JUST TOO CLOSE.
LIKE THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS, THE KIDS, THE BIKES, EVERYTHING LIKE IT IS IMPORTANT.
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO US.
IT ACTUALLY WILL SLOW DOWN K-10 EVEN MORE.
SO ANYWAY, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT SMALL LITTLE TWO MILES THAT WE LIVE ON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING US SPEAK TODAY.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DEREK TAYLOR.
I LIVE AT 10244 BADEN CIRCLE IN STONE VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE BEEN AT LENEXA FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.
FOR FIVE YEARS I LIVED IN THE BRENTWOOD PARK NEIGHBORHOOD AND BECAUSE OF THE TONE AND TIMBER OF THE CITY OF LENEXA AND HOW WELL THE CITY DESIGNS FOR INTEGRATION BETWEEN RETAIL AND BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL, LIKE IN THE SAR-KO-PARK AREA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I WON'T TRY AND BELABOR THOSE POINTS TOO MUCH.
JUST TO TOUCH ON SOME POINTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE NOT MADE SO FAR.
ONE OTHER GREAT FEATURE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT IT IS WELL INTEGRATED WITH COMMUNITY TRAILS, WHICH WE USE VERY OFTEN FOR OUR OWN ACTIVITIES FOR RUNNING, WALKING OUR DOGS. BUT THEY'RE VERY ACTIVELY USED BY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN LENEXA AND IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO JUST TO PRESERVE THE TONE AND TIMBRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OBVIOUSLY, FOR ALL THESE OTHER POINTS THAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE MADE, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION IN FAVOR OF AN OVERPASS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TAYLOR. HI.
A GENTLEMAN EARLIER MENTIONED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON BUS SERVICE.
SO THE OLATHE PUBLIC SCHOOLS CURRENTLY DOESN'T OFFER BUS SERVICE.
IF YOU LIVE WITHIN TWO AND A HALF MILES OF A SCHOOL.
SO BY CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER TO THAT AREA, WHICH I AM IN FAVOR OF AN OVERPASS, NOT AN INTERCHANGE, IT WOULD HAVE A PRETTY EXTENSIVE IMPACT ON SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, MORE THAN WHAT ARE JUST BEING REPRESENTED TODAY IN TERMS OF LOSS OF BUS SERVICE AND SO I'D ALSO LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO VISIT NEAR OUR AREA. I DON'T HAVE I WOULDN'T WANT COFFEE IF I MADE IT, BUT NOT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY, BUT I'D ASK YOU TO COME TO WOODLAND AND K-10 AT 8:30 IN THE MORNING AND THEN I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION WHICH I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER.
BUT WOULD YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR CHILDREN, YOUR GRANDKIDS ONLY OPTION TO GET TO SCHOOL TO BEAT A BIKE OR WALK THROUGH THE K-10 AND WOODLAND INTERCHANGE? BECAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING HERE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME KIDS THAT'S ONLY OPTION.
IF IT WAS YOUR KID, YOUR GRANDKIDS.
AN OVERPASS VERSUS AN INTERCHANGE HAS A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON MY COMFORT LEVEL WITH MY KIDS.
AND I JUST ASK YOU TO ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOURSELF AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU.
HI. MY NAME IS CATHERINE LAPPIN AND I LIVE ON 2440 WEST 83RD STREET.
LENEXA. SO THIS IS BETWEEN GLEASON AND CLAIRE WITH THE 83RD EXPANSION PROJECT WILL TAKE PLACE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION JUST THREE POINTS WHEN CONSIDERING THIS PROJECT.
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AND I HAVE WITH MY FAMILY'S LIVED OUT THERE FOR ABOUT ALMOST 24.BEFORE THAT, WE LIVED IN OLD TOWN LENEXA AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT REALLY QUICK BECAUSE OLD TOWN LENEXA THERE WAS COSTCO WAS GOING IN AND IT WAS LIKE A BIG CONCERN.
THEN WHAT WAS COSTCO GOING TO DO TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB ON IT.
LIKE THE CLOSED OFF ROAD MADE IT.
SO THERE WASN'T A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE AND THE HOMES IN THERE WERE KEPT, YOU KNOW, UNCHANGED, IN FACT, BETTER THAN IT WAS BEFORE. SO I WAS HOPING ON 83RD STREET, WHICH HAS BEEN A FAIRLY BUSY ROAD, IT'S GOTTEN BUSIER IN THE TIME I'VE LIVED OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S KIDS, THERE'S FAMILIES, THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD ALREADY, AND I KNOW THE ROAD IS GOING TO SUPPOSEDLY EXPAND LIKE TWO LANES WITH THE TURN LANE AND THEN A BIG, YOU KNOW, MULTI-USE SIDEWALK IS LIKE, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO PUT ALL THAT IN WITHOUT TAKING UP SOME, YOU KNOW, REMOVING SOME OF THESE HOMES OR PUTTING THIS BUSY STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
SO I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER YOU KNOW, PLEASE YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THOSE HOMES.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE KIDS, WE HAVE PETS THAT ARE RUNNING.
I DO LIKE MY HOUSE OUT THERE, BUT MAINLY I BOUGHT IT FOR THE YARD.
WE'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO BUFFER THAT ROAD.
IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF THAT.
SO ANYWAY YOU CAN KEEP THAT SAFE? KEEP THE REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY DANGEROUS AS IT IS AND JUST LIKE IN SECOND POINT IS COMFORT, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO KEEP THE NOISE AND THE POLLUTION DOWN WITH ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE? YOU KNOW, THE COMFORT OF BEING ABLE TO ENJOY MY YARD, THE GARDENS OF PLANTS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING MY PETS AND OUR KIDS GRANDKIDS TO PLAY OUTSIDE. AND THEN THE PAYBACK, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
LIKE, HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE? YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU'RE PUTTING THIS HUGE EXPANSION IN, BUT, LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE? WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
SO. AND THIS IS IMPACTING ALL OF US THAT LIVE ON THE ROAD, WHICH SO IT'S REALLY UPSETTING OUR LIVES AS WELL AS ALL OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN DE SOTO IS REALLY JUST THE GROWTH AND EVERYTHING FROM ONE FACTORY.
MISS LAPIN, WE'LL HAVE YOU WRAP UP.
WHAT WILL WE GET? AND I HOPE IT'S CONSIDERABLE, CONSIDERING THIS IS A LIFE ALTERING EVENT.
I LIVE AT 21501 WEST 100 STREET.
I LIVE WITH MY MOM, MY DAD AND MY YOUNGER BROTHER.
I'VE HEARD MY NEIGHBORS TALK ABOUT SAFETY, SO I WANT TO GO BACK ON THAT.
MY BROTHER GOT AN ELECTRIC BIKE THIS YEAR FOR HIS BIRTHDAY, AND MY FRIENDS AND HIM RIDE AROUND ALL THE TIME PAST LONE ELM AND IN THAT AREA, HE'S NEVER HOME. THEY KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAFE, SO THEY DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE THEY DRIVE.
I HAVE GONE TO MANCHESTER PARK WITH MY BROTHER, SO A COUPLE OF YEARS WE WALKED THERE AND SINCE WE KNEW IT WAS A SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY WORRIES ABOUT IT. I WANTED TO ADD IN SINCE I'M LIKE AROUND THE AGE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO ABOUT THEIR WORRIES.
I THINK THAT IF THERE'S AN INTERCHANGE THAT HAPPENS, THE BUSSES FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HIGH SCHOOL AND ELEMENTARY WILL HAVE TO CHANGE PATHS, WHICH IS MORE WORK FOR THE BUS DRIVERS AND WHAT THEY ALREADY GO THROUGH SO MUCH.
I GET A LITTLE ANXIOUS WHEN RIDING THE BUS, AND I FEEL LIKE ADDING AN INTERCHANGE WOULD BE WAY TOO OVERWHELMING FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIKE MOTION SICKNESS.
BUT ALSO THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE HERE ALSO WORRYING ABOUT CRASHES, ESPECIALLY SINCE WHERE I LIVE IS VERY CLOSE, LIKE A TWO MINUTE WALK DISTANCE. I WANT MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF TO BE SAFE AND BE ABLE TO SLEEP SAFE FROM CRASHES, ROBBERIES, OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, I'M ROBIN SIMPSON.
I LIVE AT 10062 AURORA STREET.
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MY FAMILY RECENTLY BUILT A HOUSE IN MANCHESTER PARK.I WOULD LIKE TO GET IN ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COFFEE CLUB, IF I CAN.
SO I WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE QUICK THINGS AND THE FIRST ONE IS, HOW AWESOME IS IT THAT EVERYONE IS HERE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY BEING SAFE AND CARING ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THEIR KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
I THINK THAT'S AWESOME AND IF I WERE A COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT, AND I WOULD REALLY WANT TO FOSTER THAT SORT OF ENVIRONMENT IN MY CITY.
SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING LIKE AN INTERCHANGE THAT COULD VERY EASILY BE AN OVERPASS WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED WHEN YOUR RESIDENTS ARE SO OPPOSED TO IT AND THE CITY OF LENEXA OR THE CITY OF OLATHE HAS OPPOSED THIS FOR YEARS.
SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD CONSIDER SOMETHING THAT ISN'T WANTED AND EVIDENTLY ISN'T NEEDED.
I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN CONSIDERING THIS PLAN MOVING FORWARD, THAT YOUR CITY AND THE RESIDENTS HERE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT COMMUNITY AND SAFETY AND CHILDREN AND FAMILY AND I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD INTENTIONALLY DISRUPT THAT.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE AND WORKING TO PRESERVE THAT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHEN MOVING FORWARD WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.
I LIVE AT 2500 WEST 98TH STREET.
I JUST WANT TO THANK ALL MY NEIGHBORS AND CITIZENS HERE WHO SHOWED UP TONIGHT.
IT'S AWESOME. I JUST RECENTLY FINISHED THE STOPLIGHT THAT'S IN MY BACKYARD ON LONE ELM AND PRAIRIE STAR AND JUST THE DYNAMICS THAT HAVE CHANGED.
I WAS DEPLOYED AND CAME BACK TO THAT AND HOW MUCH IT'S AFFECTED OUR LIVES JUST WITH THE STOP AND GO.
I MEAN, JUST THE NOISE POLLUTION ALONE AND THE LIGHT POLLUTION HAS BEEN DETRIMENTAL SO FAR.
SO JUST PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
I LIVE AT 10145 EDEN CIRCLE IN THE STONE VIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE INTERCHANGE WOULD LITERALLY COME THROUGH MY BACKYARD, ON MY THROUGH MY FENCE, RIGHT BEHIND MY FENCE AND IF YOU THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF THE SAFETY FROM THE HIGHWAY, WE RECENTLY HAD A TRUCK THAT WAS OVERTURNED, THAT FLIPPED AND WAS ALMOST IN OUR FENCE AND IN OUR BACKYARD.
AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE WOODLAND, YOU HAVE K-10, YOU HAVE OR K-7 AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE LONE ELM.
IF YOU CREATE AN INTERCHANGE THERE, THAT CREATES MORE POSSIBILITY FOR MORE ACCIDENTS TO HAPPEN.
IF WE THINK ABOUT THE HIGHWAY ASPECT OF IT IN IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE, I REALLY WOULD HOPE THAT OUR COUNCIL WOULD GIVE THIS ANOTHER THOUGHT WITH THIS MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS COMING OUT TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS PLAN AND ASKING YOU AND PLEADING YOU TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY SO WE CAN KEEP OUR KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
I LIVE AT 21501 WEST 98TH STREET, SO I BACK RIGHT UP TO LONE ELM.
SO MY FAMILY, MY DAUGHTERS WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS.
THEIR SAFETY WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
YES, OUR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL THERE.
YES, OUR KIDS PLAY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
OUR KIDS USE THE BIKE PATH AS A WAY TO GET TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COMBAT COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN HARDLY PASS, GET THROUGH, GET ACROSS PRAIRIE STAR PARKWAY AS IT IS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ECHOED IS THAT WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA.
WE'RE SAYING WE'LL TAKE WE'LL GO AROUND, WE'LL GET ON K-7.
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WE'LL GET OFF ON PRAIRIE STAR.NOW, ADDITIONALLY ON PRAIRIE STAR AND K7.
WHY ARE WE GOING TO OPEN UP MORE COMMERCIAL FACILITIES OR MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES FOR RETAIL, WHEN THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY OPEN AREN'T FULL? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT WE NEED THIS.
YOU'RE NOT INCONVENIENCING OUR LIVES BY NOT HAVING AN INTERSECTION AT LONE ELM.
RESOUNDINGLY. WE'VE SAID WE DON'T WANT IT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S TIME FOR COMING OUT AND LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS, BUT THAT'S ALL I GOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OF COURSE.
OKAY. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY MELANIE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU.
WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS TONIGHT.
DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO STAY, BUT WE'LL BE BACK IN FIVE.
[13. Deannexation request for property located at 27855 W. 83rd Street]
83RD STREET.WE'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT FIRST, MR. JULIAN. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? NO. JUST QUESTION AND ANSWER, I GUESS.
I DID A FOIA REQUEST, AND I READ THROUGH THE 40S AND THE 60S AND THE NUMBER ONE USE OF THIS PARTICULAR DE ANNEXATION OR VACATION IN THE UNITED STATES AND PRIMARILY IN KANSAS IS AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES.
AS A CITY, YOU GUYS BUILD RESIDENTIAL AREAS, YOU CONTINUE TO GROW AND YOU GET IT.
YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE PUT RANDOM THINGS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
HOWEVER, WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING A FARM, ESPECIALLY ONE WITH MODERN FARMING APPROACHES LIKE SUSTAINABLE OR WHAT WE DO AS REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE, WHERE WE MOVE OUR ANIMALS CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S IN PERMANENT OR PLACED IS VERY DIFFICULT TO USE.
SO WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR SINCE 2021, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE FARM IN THE CITY LIMITS AND EVERY TIME NEW RULES, NEW UNDERSTANDING COMES UP, AND EACH TIME WE COME BACK WITH LESS UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TRULY TAKE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO ON THE PROPERTY.
ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WE DO RAW MILK SELLS, AND RAW MILK SELLS IN THE STATE OF KANSAS, REQUIRE THE CUSTOMERS TO COME TO THE PROPERTY AND PURCHASE THEIR MILK. OR WE CAN COURIER IT TO THEM BY DELIVERING IT.
OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE CITY THIS SUMMER, WE DETERMINED THAT WE COULD NOT HAVE CUSTOMERS ON OUR PROPERTY ANYMORE AND SPEAKING TO LEGAL DEFENSE TEAMS FOR FARMERS, THEY MADE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PURSUE DE-ANNEXATION, WHICH IT'S STILL A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE A GROWING FARM.
WE DON'T PICK UP THE FARM AND MOVE IT.
IT STAYS IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION SO WE CAN STILL SERVICE CUSTOMERS AND LENEXA.
I RESIDE IN LENEXA IN WHISPERING HILLS.
THE FARM IS 35 ACRES DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S ABOUT SEVEN MINUTE DRIVE TO GET TO IT FROM OUR HOUSE AND THE DE-ANNEXATION WOULD ALLOW US TO LIVE UNDER THE REGULATIONS OF OTHER FARMS IN THE COUNTY THAT IS MORE DESIGNED TO ALLOW THE PERSON MAINTAINING THE LAND TO DO SOME OF THE WORK AND TO ALSO ALLOW THE LAND TO BE, AS IT WAS INTENDED, VERY NATURAL.
WE DON'T USE HEAVY MACHINERY, WE USE GOATS, AND WE TAKE THOSE GOATS AND WE MOVE THEM AROUND AND THEY EAT UP ALL THIS INVASIVE SPECIES THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF TAKING OVER LENEXA IN THESE AREAS AND ONE OF THE KEY REASONS WE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY ORIGINALLY IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND ON THE GOAT PROGRAM THAT WAS HAPPENING IN THE PARK BY OFFERING ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS LIKE OURS AND WHISPERING HILLS, WHICH LOOKS VERY MUCH LIKE OUR FARM.
BUT I'M BIASED, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR FARM, TOO.
AND WE JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE FEEL WERE LED TO DO.
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AND DE-ANNEXATION ALLOWS THAT.SEAN, YOU HAVE THE SECOND PART OF THIS OR SECOND PRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I PULL THIS UP. SEAN MCLAUGHLIN, CITY ATTORNEY.
WE DO NOT SEE THESE VERY OFTEN, BUT.
I WON'T GO INTO DEPTH IN THEM, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
ON YOUR SCREEN YOU WILL SEE THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED IS OUTLINED IN RED THERE.
IT'S ON THE CITY'S WESTERN BORDER, JUST SOUTH OF 83RD STREET.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 17.7 ACRES.
WE DID ANNEX IT IN 1986 AND AT THAT TIME PROVIDED A SERVICES EXTENSION PLAN.
THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I'LL CALL A SCAR ACROSS THE LAND, THAT IS.
I'M TRACING IT WITH THE HAND THERE.
THERE'S A WATER LINE EASEMENT ON IT SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
THE PETITIONER ACTUALLY OWNS 34 ACRES.
HE OWNS THE ADDITIONAL YELLOW PARCELS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THERE.
BUT HE'S ONLY REQUESTING THE ANNEXATION OF THE RED PARCEL.
WHILE IT IS RARE YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THE PROCESS, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS OUR VACATIONS.
ALTHOUGH WE DON'T DO THOSE, WE DO A HANDFUL OF THOSE A YEAR.
STAFF MAKES FINDINGS BASED ON A SET STANDARD OF CRITERIA, AND WE ALSO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOU'LL CONSIDER 4 STANDARDS TONIGHT WHETHER LEGAL NOTICE WAS GIVEN PRIVATE RIGHTS WILL BE INJURED OR ENDANGERED, WHETHER THE PUBLIC WILL SUFFER LOSS OR INCONVENIENCE AND WHETHER JUSTICE PETITIONER REQUIRES THE ANNEXATION.
I WILL GO THROUGH THE FINAL THREE.
THE PETITIONER OWNS APPROXIMATELY 34 ACRES AND WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING 17.7 ACRES FOR THE ANNEXATION.
IT WOULD CREATE DIFFERENT REGULATIONS IN THAT AREA.
IT ALSO PHYSICALLY ISOLATE THAT YELLOW PROPERTY, WHICH HAS NO ACCESS TO 83RD STREET, AND MAINTAINS ITS CURRENT ACCESS FROM THAT PROPERTY THAT'S REQUESTED TO BE DE-ANNEXED. IN THAT WAY, YOU'LL CREATE SEVERAL PRIVATE INJURIES, MAKING IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AS A WHOLE, WHETHER IT'S THE RED ONE OR IT'S THE YELLOW, WHICH WILL BE ISOLATED FROM A REGULATION STANDPOINT AS WELL AS AN ACCESS STANDPOINT TO THE CITY OF LENEXA, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO ADMINISTRATE REGULATIONS.
WHILE HE MAY GO UNDER SERVICES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
THE YELLOW WOULD REMAIN UNDER CITY OF LENEXA SERVICES AND WOULD NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS.
FIRST, IT CREATES AGAIN A THEME OF REITERATING HERE CONFUSING AND DIFFICULT ADMINISTRATION TO ADMINISTER A PATCHWORK OF LAWS, REGULATIONS AND SERVICES IN THE AREAS IT WOULD NOT FURTHER THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN AND PREVENT PROPER PROPERTY GROWTH IN THIS AREA THAT WE DESIRE AS THE COMP PLAN.
WHILE WE HAVE YET TO REACH THIS AREA IN THE WESTERN PART OF LENEXA, THAT IS THE INTENT FOR IT TO EVENTUALLY BE RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND BY SPLITTING THIS PROPERTY WILL MAKE IT NOT ONLY THOSE PROPERTIES THERE, IT WILL CREATE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND THEM TO BE HARDWOOD, AND THEY HAVE A PATCHWORK OF ADMINISTRATION AND REGULATIONS.
FINALLY, THE CITY WILL LIKELY CONTINUE TO PROVIDE MANY OF THE SERVICES, BEING THE CLOSEST PROVIDER OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, WHETHER THROUGH MUTUAL AID OR JUST PROXIMITY AND THE PROPERTY WILL NO LONGER RECEIVE THE WILL NO LONGER PAY PROPERTY TAXES TO THE CITY, EVEN RECEIVE THOSE BENEFITS AT THE SAME TIME.
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SERVICES HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR OVER 35 YEARS AND ACCESS TO SERVICES ENHANCES THE PROPERTY'S DESIRABILITY.I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW OR AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR SEAN? COURT? SEAN, DOES THE COUNTY HAVE THE SAME REGULATION OR THE SAME COMPLIANCE CODES THAT WE HAVE AS WELL, LIKE IF WE ANNEX IT, THEN IT FALLS TO THE COUNTY.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE COME TO THE FARM UNDER THE SAME RESTRICTIONS, OR WOULD THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET THE COMPLIANCE CODES FOR COUNTY REGULATIONS? THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THE COUNTY'S COMPLIANCE CODES.
OKAY AND WE DID CONFIRM THAT WITH THEM.
OKAY. CAN WE REBUTTAL? I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE ARE BUILDING CODES THAT WOULD EXIST NO MATTER WHAT GOVERNMENT, SPECIFICALLY ITS PAVED ROADS AND PARKING LOTS WITH THE COUNTY.
THEY REQUIRED US TO NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD ON IT, NOT CHANGE THE GRADE AND EVEN THOUGH THE CITY OF LENEXA DID REACH OUT AND THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD ALLOW US TO PAVE IT. THE FIRE MARSHAL OF LENEXA SAID THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE GRADE, WHICH THEN GOES AGAINST THE AMOUNT OF DIRT THAT THEY WOULD PUT ON TOP OF THEIR PIPELINE. THE PIPELINE IS THE ENTIRE WATER SUPPLY FOR ITS GIANT FOUR INCH PIPE THAT'S UNDER THE GROUND, AND THAT'S THE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
THOSE ARE ALL 100% THE SAME ACROSS, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE UNITED STATES.
THE ISSUE IS WE WERE TOLD THAT WE HAD TO HAVE A PARKING LOT PAVED.
WE HAD TO HAVE PAVED DRIVEWAY, EVEN THOUGH YOU'LL PASS TWO GRAVEL ROADS OWNED BY LENEXA ON THE WAY TO OUR FARM, THREE MINUTES CLOSER TO TOWN. THAT'S ONE OF THE KEY PIECES.
WELL, THAT'S ON ME BECAUSE IT'S MY PROPERTY.
THE OTHER REASON THAT WE HAD TO DETACH THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE PUT UP FOR THE ANNEXATION IS BECAUSE STAFF TOLD US THAT THE DESCRIPTION THAT WAS USED ON THE LIEN TO SHOW THE PROPERTY WAS NOT ENOUGH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LEGALLY ON THE DEED AND IT'S IN IT DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH DETAIL IN IT AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A SURVEY DONE. I RUSHED OUT, CALLED SEVERAL SURVEY COMPANIES.
SO I SAID, WELL, LET'S JUST PUT THE ONE PROPERTY IN THERE THAT WE DO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DESCRIPTION OF, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN NAMES, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A REGISTERED PARCEL, IT WAS A WAY TO KIND OF DELAY THIS MEETING.
SO I PUT THE ONE MEETING UP THERE SO WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND SAY, LET'S WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
IF THIS WORKS, WE PLAN TO GET THE OTHER PROPERTY SURVEYED SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION REQUIRED BY VOICE, NOT BY LAW, TO STATE THAT THIS IS THE PROPERTY NEEDED SO THAT WE COULD THEN BE ANNEXED TO THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC.
YEAH. MR. [INAUDIBLE]. I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH RAW MILK SALES? AT FIRST IT WAS THE CUSTOMERS WERE REQUIRED TO COME ON SITE.
BUT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO DELIVERIES AS WELL.
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IT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE MOST OF IT HAS BECOME DELIVERIES.THE STAFF HAD ASKED US TO NOT ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO COME ONTO OUR PROPERTY ANYMORE IN JUNE AND SO WE TOLD ALL OUR CUSTOMERS THAT, HEY, IF YOU'RE PICKING UP, IF YOU NEED FOOD, WE SELL MEAT, WE SELL POULTRY AND WE SELL MILK.
THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE SELL ON THE FARM AND THEN CARRY IT BY US DELIVERING IT TO THEM.
AND WHAT HAS THAT DONE TO YOUR PROFITS? OH, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE.
OF MILK THAT YOU HAVE TO GO OUT TWICE A DAY AND MILK 12 DIFFERENT GOATS TO GET TO.
A LITTLE OVER A GALLON AND A HALF.
TIME AND MANAGEMENT PROFITABILITY.
RIGHT NOW IN THIS EARLY STAGE ISN'T WHAT WE'RE FOCUSED ON UNTIL THE CITY TELLS US THAT IF WE GET ANOTHER SHED ON OUR PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO PUT A SIX INCH WATER LINE IN THERE FOR A FIRE HYDRANT, EVEN THOUGH WHEN WE HAD A FIRE ON OUR PROPERTY, DE SOTO SHOWED UP TO PUT OUT THE FIRE, NOT LENEXA. WHEN I CALLED LENEXA TO SAY WHAT HAPPENED, THEY SAID WE DETERMINED IT WAS CLOSER FOR DE SOTO AND THEY SENT DE SOTO OUT TO PUT THE FIRE OUT. SO BUT BECAUSE OF THE STRUCTURES AND WHERE THEY WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY, WE'D HAVE TO PUT IN A HYDRANT AND I SAID, THAT'S LIKE A $60,000 SIMILAR PROJECT.
THERE WERE SNICKERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE AND THEY SAID, MINIMUM.
WELL, I DON'T MAKE $60,000 ON THIS FARM FOR FIVE YEARS OF PROFIT TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT, AND ANOTHER 60 TO PAY FOR THE PARKING LOT AND PAVED DRIVEWAY THAT I'D BE REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE GRAVEL ON NOW.
AND IT WORKS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
WHAT OTHER STRUCTURES ARE YOU ANTICIPATING? WE NEED SMALL SHEDS AND PORTABLE ITEMS THAT WE CAN MOVE AROUND THE FARM THAT CAN HIDE, THAT CAN HOUSE ANIMALS DURING THE WINTER.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO PUT THEM IN PLASTIC TOTES BECAUSE WE'RE TOLD WE CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE STRUCTURES.
CURRENTLY OUR HAY IS UNDER PLASTIC.
IT GETS MOLD WHEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO REPLACE EVERYTHING BECAUSE WE'RE USING TEMPORARY STRUCTURES, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ON HOLD FOR SO LONG TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE PIECES.
BUT YOU SAID THAT THE STRUCTURES, THE CODES, THE BUILDING CODES FOR LENEXA AND THE COUNTY.
YOU SAID THE ONLY ISSUE WAS THE PAVING.
SO THE COUNTY UNDERSTANDS THAT THERE ARE LIVESTOCK SHELTERS, AND THEY DON'T CONSIDER THOSE ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, THAT THOSE ARE TEMPORARY PORTABLE STRUCTURES, JUST LIKE A TRAILER OR A HAY TRAILER WOULD BE, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE ON SKIDS AND YOU MOVE THEM AROUND AND LENEXA IT'S CONSIDERED A BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS A ROOF, EVEN IF IT'S NOT ENCLOSED, IF IT HAS A ROOF, IT'S CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY. AND THOSE I CAN ONLY GET UP TO 120 SQUARE FOOT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH PLANNING AND THEN WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO ANCHOR TO THE GROUND.
SO I CAN GO BUY A SHED DEALERSHIP AND SAY AT HOME DEPOT AND SEE ALL THEIR SHEDS NOT ANCHORED TO THE GROUND AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND I NEED TO MOVE THOSE AROUND ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE DIFFERENT.
HERDS OF GOATS THAT WE HAVE SO THAT WE HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR LIVESTOCK TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY CODE VERSUS COMPLYING WITH THE COUNTY CODE? SO IF I WANT TO GET A SHED TODAY, I HAVE TO GO PUT IN A PERMIT TO GET A SHED WITH THE CITY IF IT'S OVER 120FTĀ², WHICH IS REALLY SMALL AND THEN AT THAT PLACE SOMEBODY WOULD COME OUT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU NEED TO ANCHOR IT TO THE GROUND, YOU NEED TO PUT A FOUNDATION ON IT, OR YOU NEED TO PUT IT ON PIERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL, THE INTENDED PURPOSE OF THAT PARTICULAR STRUCTURE IS TO MOVE.
SO IF IF IT WAS THE SAME SIZE BUT IN THE SHAPE OF A LIVESTOCK TRAILER.
NOBODY IS ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT YOU DON'T USE LIVESTOCK TRAILERS FOR THAT.
YOU USE BUILDINGS FOR THAT AND IN THE COUNTY, THEY UNDERSTAND.
THEY GET IT. IT'S AN AGRICULTURAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
BUT IN LENEXA, BECAUSE IT'S HIGHLY RESIDENTIAL, IT'S A SHED IN SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE IT MOVES, IT BREAKS THE NEED.
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ACTUALLY MAKE THE LAND BETTER AND THAT SOMEHOW AFFECTS THE HEALTH AND THE SAFETY OF THE LIVESTOCK.WE DON'T SPRAY CHEMICALS ON ANY OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CROPS OR ANYTHING THAT WE GROW THERE.
YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE ANIMAL OR THAT IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE FROM PARASITES WILL GET IN AND KILL THEM.
THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE INVENTED THESE THINGS.
WE USED TO JUST ALLOW ANIMALS TO BE OUT ON THE PRAIRIES AND MOVE THEM AROUND, AND THEY TOOK CARE OF THEMSELVES, BUT WE BROUGHT THEM IN AND CLOSED THE FENCES, LEFT THEM THERE, AND THEY STARTED TO DEVELOP THESE ILLNESSES, AND WE STARTED TO GIVE THEM, YOU KNOW, SHOTS AND SPRAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WE DON'T DO.
IT'S WHAT THEY USE IN THE PARK TO KEEP THE GOATS IN THERE, AND WE CONTINUALLY MOVE THEM ON A WEEK BY WEEK BASIS AROUND THE PROPERTY, WHICH MAKES IT TO WHERE ALL THE STUFF THAT GOES WITH THE GOATS MOVES AROUND TOO.
DO THEY MOVE AROUND YOUR ENTIRE PROPERTY, THE PARTS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO IN WITH THE GOATS, CLEAR PATHS THAT WE CAN PUT THE NETTING THROUGH, AND THEN GET THEM IN THERE AND THEN HAVE THEM HIT THAT AREA FOR 2 TO 3 YEARS, LIKE WE'VE SEEN IN SAR-KO-PARK, TO BE ABLE TO TRULY HAVE IMPACT ON THOSE INVASIVE SPECIES.
IF YOU GO IN AND PUT CHEMICALS DOWN AND RIP IT ALL UP, IT WILL COME BACK AND THE GOATS ACTUALLY GET IN THERE AND THEY STARVE THE PLANT FOR THAT'S GROWING BY EATING AND STOMPING ON IT AND DOING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE PLANT WILL ACTUALLY END UP DYING OFF.
SO THEN HOW WOULD DE-ANNEXING ONE OF THREE DIFFERENT PARCELS IF THE ANIMALS ARE MOVING ALL OVER MAKES SENSE? THE DE-ANNEXING GETS US THAT PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHERE OUR PRODUCE STAND, WOULD BE, AND WOULD ALLOW THE CUSTOMERS TO COME ON TO THE TO THE PROPERTY.
WE'D ALSO BE ABLE TO MOVE AND SHIFT GEARS, BUT MY INTENT IS TO BRING THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN AND GET THEM TO DE- ANNEX WITH THE STAFF IMMEDIATELY SAYING THEY PLAN TO REJECT IT AND HERE'S HOW AWESOME IT WAS.
I PUT IN THE NOTICE WITH THE CITY CLERK WITHIN ONE HOUR.
AFTER WAITING SIX MONTHS FOR ANOTHER MEETING, I GET A CALL FROM THE CODES GUY SAYING THAT THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING WRONG AND GET A LETTER OUT TO ME BECAUSE I PUT IN THE DE-ANNEXATION REQUEST.
SO YOU HAVE THIS INTERNAL KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATION GOING ON WHERE WE GET THE NASTY GRAM BEFORE THEY'LL CONVERSATION WILL COME BACK ABOUT THE DE-ANNEXATION AND THEN THEY PUT ALL THE, THE HARMFUL PIECES IN THAT MAKE IT TO WHERE IT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENT.
IT'S EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO WORK WITH THE CITY, BUT IT'S JUST NOT WORKING OUT BECAUSE AND WHEN DID YOU BUY THE LIVE? I MEAN, HAVE YOU HAD THE LIVESTOCK? DID YOU HAVE THE LIVESTOCK BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THE LAND OR THE LAND BOUGHT? YEAH. GOATS TAKE ABOUT FIVE MONTHS TO HAVE BABIES.
SO YOU CAN REPOPULATE PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO WE NOW HAVE 70 GOATS AND WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND.
WHY DID YOU BUY IT? OUR FRIENDS OWNED IT BEFORE.
IF I COULD JUST INTERRUPT FOR A MOMENT.
WE'RE KIND OF GETTING DOWN A WORMHOLE.
SO WHILE I APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND HISTORY.
IS THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING RELEVANT TO THE FOUR THINGS BEFORE US? IT WAS RELEVANT TO THE FOURTH ELEMENT, WHICH WAS EQUITY AND JUSTICE.
YOU BET. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. CHRIS? SEAN, REMIND ME WHY THE CITY ASKED THE PETITIONER TO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME TO HIS PROPERTY OR TO USE HIS ROAD.
MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE.
SCOTT'S GOING TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
THAT'S A CODE ISSUE AND I CAN'T HELP.
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.SCOTT MCCULLOUGH WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE THE DEPARTMENT THAT'S HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THE JULIANS AND AS THEY EXPLAINED THEIR DESIRES, WE HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING AND PROVIDING THE CODE PATH TO ACCOMMODATE THE USES ON THE PROPERTY.
I THINK ABOUT IT IN THIS WAY, THAT THE FARMING THAT IS ESTABLISHED TODAY BY THE JULIAN FAMILY OF JUST PRODUCING EITHER ANIMAL PRODUCTS OR CROP PRODUCTS, IS ACCOMMODATED BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOTH OUTSIDE AND INSIDE THE PROPERTY.
AS SOON AS LIKE ANY DEVELOPMENT, LIKE ANY PROPERTY THAT WANTS TO INTENSIFY DEVELOPMENT, AS THAT INTENSIFICATION HAPPENS, HIGHER LEVEL OF LIFE SAFETY CODES ARE APPLIED TO THE PROPERTY AND AS MR. JULIAN DESCRIBED HIS DESIRE TO BRING ON THE PUBLIC INTO AT THE TIME IT WAS A BUILDING JUST OFF THE ROAD.
THAT PROBABLY IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT IS PRESENTED FOR ANYTHING PAST FARMING THE PROPERTY AND BRINGING THE TAKING THE PRODUCT OFF THE PROPERTY TO A FARMERS MARKET OR STORE OR CUSTOMERS.
AS SOON AS WE BRING THAT PUBLIC IN, HIGHER LEVEL CODES KICK IN.
IT'S NOT THAT THE PUBLIC IS PROHIBITED FROM COMING ONTO THE PROPERTY, IT'S THAT CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE MADE TO THE PROPERTY IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE PUBLIC IN A SAFE WAY AND IN A WAY THAT LIFE SAFETY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL CAN GO ASSIST THE PUBLIC SHOULD THERE BE AN ACCIDENT AT THE FARM.
OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE PRESENT WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.
SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE MOTION TO.
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND BY MARK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
SECOND MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY CHELSEA.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES.
[14. Resolution to submit to the qualified electors of the City of Lenexa, Kansas, the proposition of renewing the three-eighths of one percent (0.375%) general purpose Retailers' Sales Tax within the City]
TONIGHT IS A RESOLUTION TO SUBMIT THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF THE CITY OF LENEXA.MIKE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
GIVE ME A SECOND TO PULL THIS UP REALLY QUICK.
I HAD A BUNCH OF DILIGENT NOTES AND THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
I'M GOING TO TRY TO READ FROM FOR THEM TO GET EVERYTHING THAT'S IN.
AFTER MANY INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS AND THE DIRECTION FROM THE GOVERNING BODY AS PART OF THIS YEAR'S CIP PROCESS, AND MANY CONVERSATIONS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE AND BEFORE YOU, THIS EVENING IS A RESOLUTION TO SUBMIT TO THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF THE CITY OF LENEXA THE PROPOSITION OF RENEWING THE THREE EIGHT CENT SALES TAX.
GENERAL PURPOSE RETAILERS SALES TAX WITHIN THE CITY.
IF APPROVED, THAT ELECTION WOULD BE HELD BY MAIL BALLOT ON APRIL 1ST, 2025.
THE RESOLUTION DOES TWO IMPORTANT THINGS.
IT CALLS FOR THE ELECTION, AND IT SETS THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, ASKING THE VOTERS TO RENEW THE TAX EARLY FOR A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS, COMMENCING ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2028 AND CONCLUDING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2048.
AS YOU ARE FAMILIAR, THE CITY APPROVES A BUDGET ANNUALLY, AS REQUIRED BY LAW.
BUT WE ALSO PLAN FINANCIALLY AND OPERATIONALLY IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS.
IN THE FINAL YEAR, THE PROPOSED CIP, WHICH YOU HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THIS THIS EVENING, THE THREE CENT SALES TAX IS NOT AN AVAILABLE FUNDING SOURCE AND IT EXPIRES ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2028.
THE THREE CENT SALES TAX ACCOUNTS FOR 20% OF THAT.
CIP AND I HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGING THIS, HAVE I? NO THAT'S GOOD. SECOND ONE.
SOME KEY TAKEAWAYS AND SOME THINGS.
SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER AS YOU DELIBERATE ON THE RESOLUTION THIS EVENING.
ONE THIS WOULD BE A RENEWAL OF AN EXISTING SALES TAX AND IS NOT A NEW SALES TAX.
THE SECOND CONSIDERATION, THE CITY SALES TAX RATE WOULD REMAIN THE SAME AT ONE AND 3/8 OF A PERCENT.
FOR NEWT, IT WOULD BEGIN OCTOBER 1ST, 2028, CONCLUDE SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2048.
IT WOULD BE USED TO FUND THE SAME EXACT THINGS AS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2008.
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STREET MAINTENANCE.PARKS AND RECREATION IMPROVEMENTS.
IT'S ESTIMATED TO RAISE ABOUT $260 MILLION OVER THAT 20 YEAR TERM, AND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, BETWEEN 35 AND 40% OF SALES TAX IN LENEXA IS GENERATED BY VISITORS AND NOT RESIDENTS. SO WHAT HAS THIS FUNDED? OBVIOUSLY, WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS.
SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT IS CONSTRUCTED, AND THERE IS STILL $9.4 MILLION OF OUTSTANDING DEBT.
THE BONDS OF WHICH WILL BE REPAID BY 2028 WHEN THE ORIGINAL SALES TAX WAS EXPECTED TO EXPIRE.
RENEWING THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE THE SCHEDULE OF THOSE PAYMENTS ON THE BONDS.
IT IS EXPECTED THAT VISION 2040 AND THE 2024 PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN WOULD SERVE SIMILARLY AS GUIDES FOR INVESTMENT IN NEW PARKS AND REC INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THE PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, TRAILS AND PARK DEVELOPMENT.
PROBABLY THE MORE IMPORTANT THING THAT PEOPLE USE EVERY DAY IS GETTING TO AND FROM SCHOOL, WORK AND THOSE THIRD PLACES THAT EVERYBODY ENJOYS AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
AS INDICATED BY THE 2023 CITIZEN SURVEY, ABOUT 60% OF THE CITY'S PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS FUNDED BY THE THREE CENT SALES TAX, WHICH IS A MAJOR PROPORTION ABOUT 5 TO $6 MILLION ANNUALLY.
AND SO WHAT WOULD A SALES TAX RENEWAL PLAN LOOK LIKE? AND SOME KEY DATES THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER ON THE SLIDE BEFORE YOU? STATE STATUTE PROVIDES US A WINDOW FOR WHERE WE'RE ALLOWED TO IDENTIFY TO TELL THE COUNTY COMMISSION, COUNTY ELECTION COMMISSIONER, THAT WE INTEND TO HOLD A MAIL BALLOT ELECTION FOR THIS PURPOSE.
THOSE DATES ARE YESTERDAY, DECEMBER 2ND TO JANUARY 7TH.
IF IT WERE TO BE AN APRIL 1ST MAIL BALLOT ELECTION, SHOULD YOU VOTE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WILL PROVIDE OFFICIAL NOTICE TO THE COUNTY ELECTION COMMISSIONER THIS WEEK, AND OUR STAFF WILL BEGIN TO WORK WITH HIS OFFICE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH HOLDING A SPECIAL MAIL BALLOT ELECTION. THAT'S JUST THE FIRST STEP.
AS I MENTIONED AT THE CIP PAGE TURN LAST MONTH, STAFF HAS BEEN PREPARED WITH AN INFORMATIONAL WEBSITE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL SALES TAX RENEWAL AND HAS TENTATIVELY BOOKED CITY FACILITIES TO HOLD OUR FOUR PUBLIC OPEN HOUSES IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH.
THE DETAILS OF THOSE ARE ON THE SHEET THAT I PROVIDED BEFORE THE MEETING THIS EVENING.
THAT INFORMATION IS PLANNED TO BE FOUND@LENEXA.COM BACKSLASH SALES TAX AND JUST SOME OF THE KEY DATES ON WHEN THOSE THINGS WOULD BE ARE ON THE SCREEN THERE. THE FINAL THING I COULDN'T LET YOU LEAVE WITHOUT PUTTING THE BALLOT LANGUAGE ON THE SCREEN, AND I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO READ IT, SEAN.
SO I AM NOT GOING TO UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS.
I DID RECEIVE A NOTE FROM COUNCILMEMBER NICKS ASKING COMPARISONS KIND OF BETWEEN THE LAST SALES TAX LANGUAGE AND THIS ONE AND THE MAJOR CHANGES ARE WE HAVE CONSOLIDATED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE FUNDING STRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEARLY STATED THAT IT'S FOR STREET MAINTENANCE, FOR PARKS AND TRAILS AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, AND ALL KIND OF OTHER GENERAL THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, INCLUDING BEING ABLE TO BOND FOR THOSE AND BORROW AGAINST IT AS A REVENUE SOURCE LIKE WE DID WITH THE REC CENTER.
YES, MA'AM. IF YOU WOULD BACK UP, ITEM C IS THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN SEE PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE SAY ALL THINGS RELATED TO. IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE THAT ANY MORE SPECIFIC? THAT IS A QUESTION FOR SEAN.
OKAY. SO THIS IS A GENERAL SALES TAX.
SO THE STATUTE REQUIRES ON GENERAL SALES TAX TO ALSO LIST SOME OF THE THINGS YOU MAY USE IT FOR.
AS IT MAY BE THE CASE, THE A, B AND C MIRRORS A LOT OF WHAT WE DID ORIGINALLY.
IT IS NOT A SOME OF THE CITIES HAVE A LOT OF PIPES AND PARK SALES TAX.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BROADER LANGUAGE TO IDENTIFY THOSE.
BUT WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED IN YOUR CAMPAIGN KIND OF WHAT YOU GUYS WOULD INTEND TO USE THIS FOR, AS WE'VE DONE SO OVER THE LAST 17 YEARS IN THE CURRENT ONE AND, MAYOR, KEEP IN MIND IN THROUGHOUT OUR EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN, WE'RE GOING TO USE PLAIN LANGUAGE FOR ALL OF THIS.
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THE ONLY TIME YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS LEGALESE, FOR BETTER LACK OF A BETTER TERM, IS IN THE BALLOT ITSELF.SO HOPEFULLY WE'VE DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB EDUCATING OUR RESIDENTS AND VOTERS ABOUT WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS INTENDED WHEN THEY GO TO ACTUALLY MARK THE BALLOT.
JUST YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ALL THINGS.
IT'S MORE SO THERE'S A BIT OF ART AND THEN LEGAL TERMS TO HERE.
WE CERTAINLY WE REFLECTED ON THAT ONE.
WE ACTUALLY I BELIEVE THE PREVIOUS ONE HAD A LOT OF THAT STUFF AND IT SEEMED A LOT MORE.
I'M SORRY I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU, BECKY AND SEAN.
WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE MY REMARKS.
AND I'LL ADVISE YOU THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED, AND I'LL STAND FOR ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SALES TAX RENEWAL ITSELF OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU SHOULD ASK. SO ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? OKAY. ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO SUBMIT TO THE QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF THE CITY OF LENEXA, KANSAS.
THE PROPOSITION OF RENEWING THE 3/8 OF 1% GENERAL PURPOSE RETAILER SALES TAX WITHIN THE CITY.
SECOND BY MELANIE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU. ANY COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS THIS EVENING? OKAY, STAFF JUST HAVE THE EXTERIOR GRANT AND TAX REBATE PROGRAM UPDATES, WHICH KYLE AND SCOTT ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU.
[STAFF REPORTS]
GREAT. SEE HOW MUCH HELP I GET JUST TO BRING UP A POWERPOINT. OKAY.I THINK AM I TAKING THIS FIRST PART? I'LL START. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO START AND THEN I'LL KICK IT OFF TO KICK IT BACK TO SCOTT AND THEN I'LL TAKE IT BACK.
SO I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY IN A MINUTE, BUT KYLE.
KYLE GLASER EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT LIKE I SAID, SCOTT AND I ARE GOING TO KIND OF TAG TEAM THIS ONE.
WE DECIDED TO GO AND REPORT ON BOTH OF THESE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TOGETHER TONIGHT FOR REALLY ONE REASON AND THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF SISTER PROGRAMS, RIGHT? BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY DESIGNED TO SUPPORT THIS VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOODS GOAL THAT WE ESTABLISHED IN VISION.
AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE KIND OF GET INTO EACH PROGRAM A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT THE FIRST MAIN ONE PRESERVE AND REHABILITATE EXISTING HOUSING STOCK.
AGAIN, EACH PROGRAM KIND OF ATTACKS THIS DIFFERENTLY.
BUT OUR PRIMARY SOURCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS REALLY OUR EXISTING OLDER HOUSING STOCK AND BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE AIMED AT AT KIND OF HELPING, HELPING THOSE THAT ARE IN THAT OLDER HOUSING STOCK TO KIND OF STAY IN THEIR HOMES, MAINTAIN THEIR HOMES.
PRESERVING EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
AGAIN, BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS REALLY GEARED TOWARDS OUR OLDER HOUSING STOCK.
AND THEN LASTLY, THIS ONE'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY, BUT SUPPORT AGING IN PLACE.
REALLY MORE WITH THE TAX REBATE PROGRAM.
SO HELPING PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS ON FIXED INCOME AGE IN PLACES IS IMPORTANT AND IN BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE HELPING TO SUPPORT THAT AND SO I GUESS AS WE KIND OF GO FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT EACH PROGRAM, KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE EVALUATE THE RESULTS AND THINK ABOUT HOW EACH OF THESE PROGRAMS HAS DONE THIS YEAR.
MAYOR COUNCIL SCOTT MCCULLOUGH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 LIKE SEVERAL YEARS.
A FEW YEARS IN THE PAST, THE BUDGET FOR 24 EXTERIOR GRANT PROGRAM WAS $90,000, AND RECIPIENTS CAN RECEIVE 50% OF A MATCH UP TO $5,000 TO PUT TOWARDS EXTERIOR RENOVATION OF THEIR PROPERTIES TO BE ELIGIBLE.
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OFFICE. SOME TREND DATA FOR YOU FROM 21 THROUGH THIS YEAR.SOME HIGHLIGHTS HERE ARE THAT WE HAVE ISSUED NEARLY $244,000 IN GRANTS, FOR A TOTAL INVESTMENT OF NEARLY $700,000 BY THE OWNERS OF THE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE PROVIDED 63 GRANTS OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS TO 55 OWNERS AND TO EIGHT RENTAL PROPERTIES.
THIS IS RIGHT SIZE NOW, IN OUR OPINION, AND WORKING VERY WELL.
THE LAST FOUR YEARS WORTH OF LOCALES OF WHERE THOSE GRANTS WERE PROVIDED TO AND THEN IN 24.
SO AGAIN, THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AGAIN, THIS IS TO REITERATE A POINT KYLE MADE.
THIS REALLY IS ONE OF THE TOOLS WE HAVE THAT HELPS KEEP HOUSING ATTAINABLE AND HELPS KEEP HOUSING MODEST IN THE AREAS WHERE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.
SOME OF THESE PICTURES DON'T DO IT JUSTICE.
WHAT SOME OF THESE HOMES STARTED WITH AND WHERE THEY WENT TO DRIVEWAYS ARE POPULAR ELEMENT THAT WE FUND AND I DO THINK THOSE HAVE A VERY PUBLIC FACING. YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THIS HOUSE WAS REPAINTED AND THE DRIVEWAY WAS NEW.
FENCING IS ALSO A POPULAR PROJECT BY OWNERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO MAKE SIMPLE IMPROVEMENTS BUT CAN BE COSTLY FOR THEM AND CAN DO SOME GOOD WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, NEW PAINT, PORCH REPAIR OR A FACELIFT ON HOMES IS ALWAYS A POPULAR THING AND HERE WE HAVE AN EXAMPLE OF AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE, WHICH I THINK YOU CAN.
IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE ROOF KIND OF SLOPING IN.
THIS STRUCTURE WAS REMOVED AND A NEW FENCE ESTABLISHED HERE.
GARAGE DOORS, OTHER PUBLIC FACING PROJECTS.
WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S REALLY YOUR FUNDING OF THE PROGRAM, YOUR APPROVAL OF THE POLICIES AND FRAMEWORK, AND YOU HAVE SOME VERY HAPPY RESIDENTS BECAUSE OF THE EXTERIOR GRANT PROGRAM AND MY ONLY HIGHLIGHT ON THIS SLIDE TO FINISH IS THAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES TO NEXT YEAR'S PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
THINGS WILL MOVE SLIGHTLY UP IN ADJUSTMENT, BUT WE PLAN TO DO ABOUT THE SAME SIZE PROGRAM NEXT YEAR.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL. SCOTT, I SEE THAT IT LOOKED LIKE EVERY YEAR THAT WE'VE DONE THIS, WE'VE HAD SOME RENTALS.
IS THAT THE APPLICANT OR THE PERSON OR THE OWNER OR THE PERSON THAT LIVES THERE? THE OWNER MAKES APPLICATION AND THEN WE TRACK WHETHER THEY'RE OWNER OCCUPIED OR RENTAL PROPERTIES LICENSED IN THE CITY.
IT SURPRISES ME THAT TELL ME OUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
REMIND ME OF WHY WE ALLOWED RENTALS.
BECAUSE OFTENTIMES A RENTAL PROPERTY IS IN AS MUCH OR MORE NEED FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
OH MY BRAIN WILL CATCH UP WITH MY GUT, BUT NOT TONIGHT.
IT'S REALLY ONLY BEEN TWO A YEAR.
YEAH. THAT WE'VE DONE THAT HAS JUST BY CHANCE BEEN RENTAL PROPERTIES.
A QUESTION FOR SCOTT AND MAYBE THIS GETS TO WHAT BILL WAS HEADING TOWARDS.
DO WE QUALIFY THE APPLICANT? I MEAN, I KNOW WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN AGE AND VALUE, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY SAY CHECK ON INCOME OF THE OWNERS, YOU
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KNOW, SAY AN INDIVIDUAL VERSUS A CORPORATION.WE DO NOT AND THAT WAS BY DESIGN TO KEEP THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM THAT HAS A MODEST BUDGET ASSIGNED TO IT, VERY EFFICIENT FOR BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE STAFF TO IMPLEMENT.
FURTHER. DO WE HAVE DATA ON HOW MUCH THE HOMEOWNER IS SPENDING, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF THE OVERALL PROJECT SO WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT PORTION, YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GRANTING THEM.
THAT'S HOW WE GET SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ABOUT TOTAL INVESTMENT HERE AND SO YOU CAN SEE FOR A YEAR LIKE TO THIS YEAR WE SPENT 80 CLOSE TO $85,000 OF THE GRANT FUNDING, AND IT GENERATED $250,000 WORTH OF AND SO WE JUST TAKE THOSE TOTAL PROJECT COSTS AND ADD THEM TOGETHER.
THE 56 APPLICANTS AND ONLY 20 WERE GRANTED.
WHAT'S HOW WAS THE GRADING ON THAT DONE IN REGARDS TO WHY THE OTHER 36 APPLICANTS DIDN'T GET ANYTHING? WHAT WAS THE. SO WE REALLY START WITH THE OLDEST BY JUST KIND OF AN AUTOMATIC PROCESS AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK WE VET FOR THE PROGRAM ITSELF TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC FACING PROJECTS.
SO WE TYPICALLY EXCLUDE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE IN THE BACKYARD IN TERMS OF BACKYARD PATIOS OR BACKYARD POOLS, THINGS THAT AREN'T GIVING THE STREET VIEW VALUE AND BENEFIT AND SO SOMETIMES THOSE ARE EXCLUDED AND SO THAT'S OUR PROCESS TO GET THE GRANTS SUBMITTED AND THEN ONE FINAL THING OUT OF THE TWO RENTALS EACH YEAR.
HAVE ANY OF THOSE RENTAL FOLKS BEEN THE SAME PERSON APPLYING? IS THERE ANY RECORD OF THAT? I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM.
I DO NOT KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME PERSON OR ENTITY.
THANK YOU. CHELSEA? I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE THIS THIS PROGRAM AND THANK YOU FOR THE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES.
[INAUDIBLE] THANKS TO ANGEL WHITAKER.
SHE WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT BUT COULDN'T.
SHE MANAGES THIS PROGRAM FOR US AND DOES A GREAT JOB.
YOU HAVE TO IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY EVEN MORE THAT WE DON'T MEASURE THAT NEIGHBORS SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS NEXT TO THEM, AND THAT INSPIRES THEM TO POUR A NEW DRIVEWAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO YEAH.
IT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. SUCCESS STORY.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE ANY PRETTY PICTURES, BUT I'LL GO OVER THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR OF THE PROGRAM.
I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE VERY THANKFUL FOR IT, BUT I DIDN'T WRITE ANY OF THEM DOWN.
SO THAT AND PICTURES FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE PROPERTY TAX REBATE PROGRAM EXISTS REALLY TO PROVIDE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF TO ELIGIBLE HOMEOWNERS THAT STEM FROM RISING HOME COSTS AND THIS IS, AGAIN, A DIRECT REBATE TO INDIVIDUALS AFTER THEY HAVE PAID THEIR PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE YEAR.
THE CITY TAX BILL AMOUNTS TO APPROXIMATELY 24% OF A TOTAL TAX BILL AND SO 75% IS LIKE 12, 15% OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S TOTAL TAX BILL IS WHAT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR WITH THE REBATE.
YOU EITHER HAD TO BE 65 PLUS OR DISABLED VETERAN.
YOU HAD TO HAVE AN COUNCILMAN.
WE DID INCOME INCOME QUALIFY ON THIS ONE, BUT YOU HAD TO BE AT OR BELOW HUD'S VERY LOW INCOME LIMITS, WHICH ARE 50% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME AND THEN YOUR HOME HAD TO HAVE AN APPRAISED VALUE OF $390,000 OR LESS, WHICH WAS THE CITY MEDIAN APPRAISED VALUE FOR 2023.
AGAIN, UNLIKE EXTERIOR GRANT, WE ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE COLUMN, BUT WE HAD 33 TOTAL ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS FOR THE PROGRAM.
WE DID HAVE A COUPLE THAT WERE THAT WERE INELIGIBLE.
THE AVERAGE REBATE FOR THOSE 33 APPLICANTS WAS $683.
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AGAIN, 75% OF AN INDIVIDUAL'S CITY TAX BILL AND SO IN TOTAL, WE REBATED ABOUT $22,500 IN PROPERTY TAX REBATES.IF YOU REMEMBER, BACK TO THE EXTERIOR GRANT PROGRAM WHEN WE MADE CHANGES INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF GOING LARGER, WE WANTED TO START NARROW SO THAT WE DIDN'T BLOW PAST OUR BUDGET TOO MUCH AND THEN KIND OF GET A BASELINE YEAR TO THEN LOOK AT CHANGES.
SO LOOKING AHEAD AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
WE HAVE $100,000 ALLOCATED TO THE PROGRAM.
THE HUD VERY LOW INCOME LIMITS AGAIN ALSO INCREASE YEAR TO YEAR.
SO FOR A TWO PERSON HOUSEHOLD NEXT YEAR, THE INCOME LIMIT, THE VERY LOW INCOME LIMIT IS 41,250 AND THEN WE KEEP THE SAME APPLICATION PERIOD.
THE PROCESS THIS YEAR WORKED WORKED RELATIVELY SMOOTHLY, ACTUALLY.
THERE WASN'T A WHOLE THERE WAS A WAVE AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN A WAVE WHEN THE TOWN TALK WENT OUT.
SO WE KNOW THE TOWN TALK ARTICLE WORKED BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY GOT A WAVE AFTER THAT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS REALLY A SLOW TRICKLE THROUGHOUT THAT THREE MONTH PERIOD WHICH WHICH ALLOWED US TO KIND OF HELP PEOPLE MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT ALL THEIR DOCUMENTATION IN, INCLUDING SOME OF THEIR TAX FORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO OVERALL, I THINK IT WAS A RELATIVELY SMOOTH PROCESS AND I THINK A SUCCESSFUL PILOT YEAR LOOKING AHEAD TO ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES, WE'RE STILL KIND OF EVALUATING THE PROGRAM IN TOTAL, BUT WE DID SPEND ABOUT A QUARTER OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.
SO THERE IS ROOM TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND THE PROGRAM.
SOME OTHER THINGS WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO INCREASING THE MAXIMUM HOME APPRAISAL.
LIKE I SAID, FOR NEXT YEAR, THE MEETING IS 400,000.
IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM.
BY I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER IN MY HEAD, SO I WON'T GIVE YOU ONE, BUT IT WOULD INCREASE IT AND THEN POTENTIALLY ONE OTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO IS LOWERING THAT VETERAN DISABILITY STATUS.
WE DID HAVE ONE VETERAN VETERAN APPLICANT THAT WAS NOT 100% DISABLED AND SO WE'RE GOING TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AND LOOK AT EXACTLY HOW THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE ASSIGNED AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAYBE MAKES SENSE.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT'S HOW WE LET FOLKS KNOW WE HAD THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
ARE YOU CONSIDERING OTHER, YOU KNOW, MEDIA TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS AVAILABLE OR POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE? AND WE DID TOWN TALK CERTAINLY WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT WE USED.
WE USED ALL KIND OF ALL OF OUR REGULAR CHANNELS AND SO I JUST POINTED THAT OUT BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT OF THE KIND OF APPLICANT POOL THAT WE GOT THERE WAS, THERE WAS A HANDFUL THAT CAME IN ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE APPLICATION PERIOD AND THEN AFTER TOWN TALK WENT OUT BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE OF TOWN TALK.
IT ACTUALLY CAME OUT ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH THAT APPLICATION PERIOD, WHICH WORKED OUT PRETTY WELL, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE CAUGHT THAT FIRST WAVE OF PEOPLE THAT HAD SEEN IT AND WERE READY FOR IT. BUT THEN WE KIND OF GOT THE WORD OUT AGAIN AND GOT A SECOND WAVE OF INDIVIDUALS.
SO THAT WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE OF PURPOSE FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
SO KYLE, EVERYBODY THAT WAS ELIGIBLE THAT APPLIED GOT THEIR FULL 75%.
YEP. OKAY AND AS THIS AS MORE PEOPLE FIND OUT ABOUT IT, THEN HOW DO WE ADJUST TO STAY WITHIN BUDGET AS WE GET MORE APPLICANTS? SO WE DO HAVE THAT THAT KIND OF BACKSTOP IN PLACE IN THE POLICY NOW IT'S UP TO 75% OR PRORATED
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SHARE. SO IF WE GET MORE APPLICANTS THAN WE HAVE FUNDING FOR, THEN IT PRORATES EVERYBODY'S SHARE TO AN EQUAL NUMBER.BUT WE DIDN'T OBVIOUSLY GET CLOSE TO THAT THIS YEAR.
OR SO, BUT THAT BACKSTOP IS IN PLACE.
IF WE WERE TO EXPAND IT TOO FAR THAT WOULD BE THERE AND IF YOU RECALL THAT.
YEAH AND THAT SCENARIO, EVERYONE GETS SOMETHING.
I'M JUST VERY PROUD OF US FOR DOING THIS.
AND, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO SEE THIS PROGRAM EXPANDING IN THE FUTURE.
ANYTHING ELSE? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STUDENTS MAYBE THAT HAVE HUNG TOUGH TONIGHT.
ARE YOU GUYS HERE FOR CLASS, LADIES? NO. YEAH.
WELL, THAT ENDS THE RECORDED PORTION OF THE MEETING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.