Jul 02, 2024 City Council Meeting

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

JENNIFER, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? THANK YOU. MAYOR.

COUNCILMEMBER KARLIN.

PRESENT. COUNCILMEMBER EITERICH IS ABSENT.

COUNCILMEMBER CHARLTON.

HERE. COUNCILMEMBER NICKS.

HERE. COUNCILMEMBER ARROYO.

HERE. COUNCILMEMBER WILLIAMSON.

PRESENT. COUNCILMEMBER DENNY.

PRESENT. COUNCILMEMBER HERRON.

PRESENT. MAYOR SAYERS IS PRESENT AND PRESIDING.

THANK YOU.

[APPROVE MINUTES]

MOVE APPROVAL.

SECOND. MOTION BY JOE.

SECOND BY BILL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

JENNIFER, ANY MODIFICATIONS THIS EVENING? NONE THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU.

[APPOINTMENT]

CAROL. I'M GOING TO SCREW IT UP AGAIN.

LELIGDON. THANK YOU.

IS REPLACING FABIOLA RIOBE, WHO HAD TO RESIGN DUE TO A SCHEDULING CONFLICT.

MISS LELIGDON IS A LIFELONG EDUCATOR, HAS LIVED IN LENEXA FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND IS READY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, SHE SAID, WHICH SHE HAS RECEIVED SO MUCH FROM.

SO I HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS APPOINTMENT TO THE ARTS COUNCIL.

SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY BILL, SECOND BY MARK.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU, CAROL, AND WELCOME.

OKAY. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING FROM THE JOHNSON COUNTY ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY STUDY.

[PRESENTATIONS]

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, LOGAN WAGLER, PARK AND REC DIRECTOR.

I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL GUESTS TONIGHT.

WE HAVE, TONIGHT WE HAVE SARAH VANLANDUYT, WHO'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF JOHNSON COUNTY ARTS COUNCIL, AND SHE'S GOT A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION THAT LENEXA KIND OF WAS A PART OF, AND I'M GOING TO KIND OF TURN IT OVER TO HER TO LET HER RUN THROUGH KIND OF A QUICK PRESENTATIONAL.

SORRY. THERE YOU GO.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SARAH VANLANDUYT.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL OF JOHNSON COUNTY.

OUR MISSION IS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE BY STRENGTHENING THE ARTS IN JOHNSON COUNTY.

ARTS AND CREATIVITY MAKE US STRONGER AS INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND AS COMMUNITIES.

THEY ARE THE BACKGROUND OF INNOVATION, PROSPERITY, AND THRIVING PEOPLE AND PLACES, BENEFITING EVERY CITY AND EVERY TOWN.

THE ARTS AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY STUDY, OR AEP STUDY--THERE'LL BE A QUIZ ON THAT SHORT NAME LATER-- [CHUCKLING] --IS A PROJECT OF THE AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS THAT GAUGES THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF NONPROFIT ARTS AND CULTURE, ORGANIZATIONS AND PUBLIC CULTURAL ENTITIES AND THEIR AUDIENCES. THE STUDY IS CONDUCTED EVERY FIVE YEARS EXCEPT FOR THE MOST RECENT STUDY.

IT WAS DELAYED DUE TO THE PANDEMIC.

WE COLLECT DATA BY USING ARTS AUDIENCE SURVEYS AND ARTS ORGANIZATION SURVEYS.

SO IN 2021-2022, THE ARTS COUNCIL OF JOHNSON COUNTY PARTICIPATED IN THE STUDY FOR JOHNSON COUNTY, KANSAS, ALONG WITH 372 OTHER COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE US.

WE WORKED WITH AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF ARTS ADMINISTRATORS, BOARD MEMBERS, AND ARTISTS THAT HELPED US FIND ARTS EVENTS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT JOHNSON COUNTY TO SURVEY, AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WHAT WE LEARNED WITH YOU.

ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT TAKEAWAYS IS THAT INVESTING IN ARTS AND CULTURE, INVESTING IN THE ARTS AND CULTURE SECTOR YIELDS A SIGNIFICANT RETURN AS SMALL BUSINESSES, NONPROFIT ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS EMPLOY PEOPLE LOCALLY, PURCHASE SUPPLIES AND SERVICES FROM NEARBY BUSINESSES, AND ENGAGE IN THE MARKETING AND PROMOTION OF THEIR CITIES AND REGIONS. THEY CAN ALSO SUPPORT COMMUNITY WELL-BEING AND CULTIVATE A SENSE OF CONNECTEDNESS AMONG INDIVIDUALS NATIONALLY, THE SECTOR GENERATED $151.7 BILLION OF ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN 2022.

THAT'S $73.3 BILLION IN SPENDING BY ARTS AND CULTURE ORGANIZATIONS ON SUPPLIES AND SERVICES, AND AN ADDITIONAL $78.4 BILLION IN EVENT RELATED EXPENDITURES BY THEIR AUDIENCES.

WHEN PEOPLE ATTEND A CULTURAL EVENT, THEY OFTEN MAKE IT AN OUTING, RIGHT? YOU GO TO A RESTAURANT, OR MAYBE YOU BUY A NEW OUTFIT, OR YOU PAY A BABYSITTER OR A PET SITTER.

THAT ALL GENERATES ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.

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IN JOHNSON COUNTY, NONPROFIT ARTS SECTOR HAD A $38.5 MILLION ECONOMIC IMPACT IN 2022, AND THIS INCLUDES $15.4 MILLION IN SPENDING BY NONPROFIT ARTS AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS AND AN ADDITIONAL 23.1 MILLION IN EVENT RELATED SPENDING BY THEIR AUDIENCES.

WE CAN BREAK DOWN AUDIENCE SPENDING EVEN MORE SO IN THE SURVEYS, WE INCLUDED A QUESTION ASKING FOLKS ABOUT THEIR ZIP CODE, AND THIS HELPED US DETERMINE LOCAL LOCAL VERSUS NON-LOCAL ATTENDEES.

SO ABOUT 30% OF OUR AUDIENCES ARE NOT FROM JOHNSON COUNTY, AND AS EXPECTED, NON-LOCAL ATTENDEES SPENT AN AVERAGE OF 103% MORE THAN LOCAL ATTENDEES, SO ABOUT $54.64 VERSUS $26.88.

WHEN ASKED, THE MAJORITY OF NON-LOCAL ATTENDEES SAID THEY CAME TO JOHNSON COUNTY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT ARTS EVENT OR ACTIVITY.

LASTLY, PAST STUDIES HAVE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON FINANCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND TOURISM CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE NONPROFIT SECTOR AND CULTURAL INDUSTRY. AEP SIX EXPANDS BEYOND THAT TO INCLUDE MEASURES OF SOCIAL IMPACT.

THIS HELPS US DETERMINE OR THIS HELPS US DEMONSTRATE EVEN FURTHER THE IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL.

EXCUSE ME. THIS HELPS US DEMONSTRATE EVEN FURTHER THE IMPORTANT AND IMPACTFUL ROLE THAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE LENEXA ARTS COUNCIL HAVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

FOR EXAMPLE, 87% OF JOHNSON COUNTY SURVEY RESPONDENTS AGREED THAT THE ACTIVITY OR VENUE THEY WERE ATTENDING WAS A SOURCE OF NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

83% SAID THEY WOULD FEEL A SENSE OF LOSS IF THAT ACTIVITY OR VENUE WAS NO LONGER AVAILABLE, AND 81% FELT IT IMPORTANT THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS ALSO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT CULTURAL EXPERIENCE.

AS I CLOSE, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

THANK THE LENEXA ARTS COUNCIL FOR THEIR PARTNERSHIP IN THIS PROJECT AND OTHER MANY PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE UPCOMING PLACE OF PEACE EXHIBITION THIS FALL.

AND I AM HAPPY TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR SARAH.

I CAN SEE ONE STEWING.

NO. OKAY.

I'M NOT STEWING.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT MOST OF YOUR YOUR REPORT WAS ECONOMIC, BUT , YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO TO A CONCERT, WHEN YOU GO TO AN ART DISPLAY, WHEN YOU DO THE ART, YOU KNOW, YOU COME OUT A DIFFERENT PERSON MOST AN AWFUL LOT OF YOUR ARTS IS IN THE RECREATION FIELD, AND SO REALLY, YOU ARE RECREATED AFTER THAT HOUR AND A HALF CONCERT BECAUSE YOU'RE DIFFERENT WHEN YOU COME OUT.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE ECONOMIC I KNOW YOU HAVE TO SELL IT, BUT THERE'S OTHER GOODS THAT ACCRUE TO PERSONAL, THE FAMILY, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THROUGH YOUR ART.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCILMAN, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, AND I'M GOING TO BORROW THAT, "YOU'RE RECREATED," AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HELP, LIKE, PROMOTE ARTS AND CULTURE FOR THE--.

[CHUCKLING] --WE'LL SIGN YOU UP RIGHT AWAY, BUT YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT; IT'S VERY HOLISTIC.

YEAH. WE ALSO ARE PROUD TO HAVE OUR TEAM MEMBER WHO RELATES THE ARTS TO MENTAL HEALTH.

SO CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT'S IMPORTANT, TOO.

SO, THANK YOU.

YEAH. PLEASE.

OF COURSE, AND I'M SORRY TO BUG YOU GUYS AGAIN DOWN ON, LIKE OR JUST TO MENTION THIS AGAIN, I MENTIONED A FEW WEEKS AGO JUST HOW IMPORTANT THE ARTS ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR, LIKE, IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH INTEREST TO EVERYONE AND PEOPLE TEND TO DOWNPLAY IT AND THINK, OH, WELL, WE SHOULDN'T FUND THE ARTS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LUXURY OR IT'S JUST THIS IT'S AN ADDED BONUS, BUT REALLY, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO PRESENTATIONS LIKE THESE.

SARAH, I'M ALWAYS JUST SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE ADVOCACY THAT YOU DO, BECAUSE IT JUST REMINDS US NOT JUST THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, BUT YOU DID MENTION BRIEFLY JUST THE SOCIAL WELLNESS THAT IT BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITIES, AND I'VE BEEN READING THE BOOK YOUR 'BRAIN ON ART.' HAVE YOU READ IT?

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IT'S GREAT, AND IT TALKS ABOUT HOW VIEWING ART, ENGAGING IN ART, LISTENING TO MUSIC, WHATEVER IT IS, WHETHER YOU'RE PARTICIPATING IN IT DIRECTLY OR JUST VIEWING IT, IT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT IN YOUR BODY, AND IT CREATES THIS SENSE OF SAFETY, AND THAT SENSE OF SAFETY REDUCES STRESS, WHICH REDUCES INFLAMMATION AND KEEPS THE DISEASE AWAY.

SO THIS THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, I'M ALWAYS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF BECAUSE IT ULTIMATELY IT COMES BACK AND CREATES HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES, AND I AM A PRODUCT OF THE ARTS COUNCIL OF JOHNSON COUNTY.

LIKE, SARAH, YOU AND I YOU KNOW, WE GO WAY BACK TO WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HIGH SCHOOL TALENT, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU, AND COUNCILPERSON ARROYO WAS ALSO PART OF OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CULTURAL ASSET MAP THAT'S JUST BEEN PUBLISHED.

SO YES, WE HAVE STRONG TIES WITH LENEXA.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.

GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

WE HAVE TEN ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING.

ALL MATTERS LISTED WITHIN THE CONSENT AGENDA HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EACH MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY FOR REVIEW ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE, AND WILL BE ENACTED ON BY ONE MOTION WITH NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

IF A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY OR THE AUDIENCE DESIRES SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON AN ITEM, THAT ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PLACED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO REMOVE AN ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS ONE THROUGH TEN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

MOTION BY CHELSEA, SECOND BY CRAIG.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED.

[11. Ordinance adopting the Lenexa Comprehensive Plan - CONTINUED FROM THE JUNE 18, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING]

SCOTT. OH.

SORRY, MAYOR. THESE LOOK DIFFERENTLY A MOMENT AGO.

WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR? NEED TO PHONE A FRIEND.

SORRY. SOMEBODY CLEANED UP, AND NOW I'M LOST.

I'M TOTALLY LOST.

YEAH. THAT WAS. ME.

OH, THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT HERE.

YEAH. SORRY.

YOU'RE FINE. THERE WE GO.

OKAY. ALREADY? MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SCOTT MCCULLOUGH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PLEASED TO STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH OUR OWN WORK OF ART.

THE NEXT LENEXA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS YOU KNOW, IT'S THE CULMINATION OF THREE YEARS WORTH OF WORK BY SO MANY PEOPLE.

RESIDENTS OF THE CITY, BUSINESS OWNERS OTHER STAKEHOLDERS.

THE YOUTH WERE ENGAGED.

WE ENGAGED THROUGH PUBLIC SURVEY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY VERY ENGAGED THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

OUR CONSULTANT, [INAUDIBLE] LEVINE, STAFF OF ALL DEPARTMENTS AND OF COURSE, IMPORTANTLY, THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS BODY WHO GAVE INPUT AND FEEDBACK AT VARIOUS POINTS ALL ALONG THE WAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, LETTING YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE INCORPORATED ALL OF YOUR FEEDBACK AND INPUT INTO THE PLAN, INTO THIS FINAL DRAFT PLAN, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND ITS APPROVAL TO YOU, AND SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I WILL JUMP IN WITH A BRIEF PRESENTATION AND THEN TAKE QUESTIONS.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REALLY IS A ROADMAP FOR THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

IT LASTS A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD FOR US.

WE'RE PREDICTING OR PLANNING ON ABOUT TWO DECADES WORTH OF GROWTH OUT OF THIS PLAN IN TERMS OF ITS RELEVANCY.

THE PLAN ENGAGES THE COMMUNITY AND IDENTIFIES CURRENT AND FUTURE DESIRES AND GOALS AND NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT ASSESSES ISSUES AND STRENGTHS, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

IT'S VERY BROAD IN ITS TOPICS, AND IT'S ALSO A FACTOR OF ANALYSIS IN ANY ZONING, SPECIAL USE PERMIT OR LAND USE APPLICATION. SO IT'S A GUIDE, BUT IT'S WEIGHTED VERY HEAVILY BECAUSE WE'RE PLANNING THE WORK AND WE WANT TO WORK THE PLAN AFTER ITS ADOPTION.

THE PLAN TELLS NOT ONLY LENEXA STORY, BUT IT INFORMS THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

IT FRANKLY EDUCATES THE PUBLIC.

THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAND ON ITS CORE INTENT AND GOALS.

MAYBE NOT PRECISELY BECAUSE IT'S A GUIDE, BUT GENERALLY WHAT IT'S TRYING TO PUT FORTH AND DO FOR THE FUTURE.

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A GREAT EXAMPLE IS HOW MUCH OF THE LAND USE MAP WE USE WITH KDOT IN ITS STUDY OF K-10.

THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN DERIVING TRAFFIC COUNTS FROM IT AND LOOKING AT LAND USE RELATIONSHIPS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IT'S THE FOUNDATION FOR ZONING CODE AND SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS AND OTHER CITY CODES, AND IT ALSO HELPS IDENTIFY ANY FUTURE STUDIES BY OF WHICH WE'VE HAD MANY OVER THE YEARS.

WE DIDN'T START INTO THIS PLAN KIND OF WILLY-NILLY.

WE HAD CLEAR OBJECTIVES IN WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, PROBABLY WAS TRYING TO BRING IN THE COMMUNITY'S PLAN, WHICH IS VISION 2040, INTO OUR PLAN FOR PHYSICAL GROWTH.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OF COURSE, IS A LITTLE MORE FORMAL, A LITTLE MORE OFFICIAL.

IT'S WHAT WE USE WITH DEVELOPERS TO ET OUR GOALS AND DESIRES MET.

IT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT MARKETS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, AND SO WE HAVE.

IN A MINUTE, I'LL SHOW YOU THE MAP YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE, WHERE WE'VE HAD TO REIMAGINE CERTAIN AREAS BECAUSE MARKETS AND MARKET PRESSURES AND DEMAND DO CHANGE OVER TIME AND WE'VE ALSO TRIED TO INCORPORATE SUSTAINABLE GOALS AND PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE PLAN.

WE PRACTICED THAT EVERY DAY, EVERY DEPARTMENT DOES, BUT WE'VE SORT OF SOLIDIFIED IT IN THIS PLAN TO A GREATER DEGREE, AND WE'VE TRIED TO FUTURE PROOF IT.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IN FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS.

WE'VE TALKED FOR MANY YEARS NOW ABOUT EV CHARGING, AND NOW I'VE JUST STARTED TALKING ABOUT HYDROGEN AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS A FUEL, AND SO I JUST CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL DO, BUT THE PLAN INTENDS TO BE FLEXIBLE MOVING FORWARD, AND IMPORTANTLY, IT DOES CREATE THAT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK ENCOURAGING A DIVERSE ECONOMY, HOUSING CHOICE IN THE CITY AND MAINTAINING OUR REALLY HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.

THE PLAN ITSELF CONTAINS A VISION STATEMENT AND 14 GOALS AND ASSOCIATED POLICIES.

IT INCLUDES THAT MAP THAT SHOWS SPECIFICALLY WHAT LANDS HAVE BEEN RECLASSIFIED TO ADDRESS THE MARKET'S CHANGING.

WE'VE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT SOME VERY TECHNICAL MAPS ENHANCING, REVISING, TWEAKING THINGS LIKE THE TRANSPORTATION MAP, SOME PARK MAPPING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, AND THEN WE'VE INCORPORATED EITHER ENHANCED POLICIES ON PRACTICES WE ALREADY DO OR SOME NEW POLICIES, AND JUST TO NAME A FEW HERE YOU'LL SEE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS AS A POLICY AND A THEME THROUGH THE PLAN THAT'S TAKING OUR DENSITY CLASSIFICATIONS AND TRYING TO ACTIVATE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE HOUSING COMPONENT, AND SO OUR SUBURBAN HOUSING CLASSIFICATION, YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE FUTURE OR YOU'RE LIKELY TO SEE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT BRING IN DUPLEX OR MAYBE EVEN TRIPLEX INTO THAT TO TRY TO ACTIVATE MORE HOUSING CHOICE IN THE COMMUNITY, INCORPORATING THAT MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING INTO THE INTO THE CITY.

AGAIN, USING VISION 2040 VALUES, PARTICULARLY THE NODAL CONCEPT OF ACTIVATING CERTAIN AREAS, EXPANDING RECREATION TRAILS AND OF COURSE, MODELING SUSTAINABILITY.

SO THIS IS THE VISION STATEMENT OF THE PLAN.

I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A FEW WORDS HERE, BECAUSE WHEN I TRY TO PROJECT MYSELF TO 2040 AND LOOK BACK, HAVE WE BEEN WELCOMING TO ALL? YOU KNOW, HAVE WE CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO GET HOUSING CHOICE IN THE CITY? ARE WE COMPLETING OUR STREET DEVELOPMENT? ARE WE GOOD FOR ALL USERS OF THE STREET WITH ALL ABILITIES? HAVE WE MAINTAINED THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP DOING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY? SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY STRONG AT, BUT FRANKLY, LOSING SOME OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TODAY.

HAVE WE BEEN SUSTAINABLE IN OUR EVER CHANGING WORLD AND IMPORTANTLY, HAVE WE CREATED THOSE PLACES FOR SOCIALIZING AND ENJOYING THE OUTDOORS THAT WE ARE NOT ONLY PROUD OF, BUT ALL ENJOY OURSELVES AND PROBABLY BRING THE GREATEST SMILE TO OUR FACE WHEN WE SEE OUR RESIDENTS ENJOYING THAT? I WILL NOT SHOW YOU ALL THE GOALS AND POLICIES WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE, BUT JUST TO REFLECT THAT THESE FIVE THEMES FROM VISION 2040 ARE IMPORTANT ONES CARRIED OUT THROUGH THIS ITERATION OF THE NEXT LENEXA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THESE CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE COMMUNITY, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS OF LENEXA.

THIS MAP REFLECTS THE PARCELS AND PROPERTIES THAT DID GET RECLASSIFIED IN THE FUTURE.

LAND USE MAP. AS YOU KNOW, THE PLAN IS A LOT OF PAGES AND A LOT OF POLICIES, BUT MOST PEOPLE GO RIGHT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND SAY, WHAT'S MY PROPERTY PLANNED FOR? WELL, THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT WE TOOK THE TIME TO WORK WITH THE OWNERS OF THESE MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES, WE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT LAYERS OF

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WE NEGOTIATED MANY THINGS IN THE PLAN.

YOU HELPED WITH THAT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STEERING COMMITTEE HELPED WITH THAT AS WELL, BUT THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WERE CHANGED.

WHEN YOU START LAYERING IN OUR WATERSHEDS, OUR UTILITY OPPORTUNITIES, OUR STREET NETWORKS, THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM, THE CONTEXT OF WHAT'S THERE.

TODAY WE START BUILDING OUR LAND USE PLAN, OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, AND THINGS START SORT OF NATURALLY EXPOSING AND RISING UP, AND SO WHERE WE DON'T DO THE TWO BIG BOX RETAIL PROJECTS ANYMORE, WE STILL ARE VERY ACTIVE IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESS PARKS, AND SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND OTHER THINGS, WE'VE REIMAGINED SEVERAL AREAS AND ARRIVED AT THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

AGAIN REFLECTING THAT, WE ENHANCED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH A MAP STRAIGHT OUT OF VISION 2040.

IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NODES, WHICH ARE ACTIVITY CENTERS, MANY TIMES THAT'S KIND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA INTENDED TO PROVIDE SERVICES AS WE BUILD OUT OUR OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE LESS SERVED TODAY AND OUR HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS SECTION.

I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A FUN MAP TO LOOK AT.

THE BLUE OUTLINES ARE JUST NEW NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE RED OUTLINES, THESE AREN'T TRYING TO SHOW BUFFER YARDS OR ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST OUTLINING AREAS WHERE OF MULTIFAMILY, WHERE WE NEED TO BE CONTEXT SENSITIVE.

IT ALSO HIGHLIGHTS AREAS WHERE IMAGINE THE VACANT SPACE TODAY BECOMING SOMETHING MUCH DIFFERENT IN 15 OR 20 YEARS.

TAKE RIDGEVIEW, FOR EXAMPLE.

YOU KNOW THE CITY INVESTED IN RIDGE VIEW FROM K-10 TO PRAIRIE STAR, AND WE'RE SEEING AS WE SPEAK RETURNS ON THAT INVESTMENT WITH DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE FOR LENEXA THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THINK OF BY 2040 IF RIDGEVIEW IS CONSTRUCTED UP TO 87TH STREET, THAT OPENS UP MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT AND FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS.

THIS JUST REFLECTS ONE ELEMENT HIGHLIGHTING IN HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS THE IDEA OF COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS, MORE HOUSING CHOICE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

ALSO BRINGING IN HIGHER AMENITIES.

HIGHER REVIEW OF ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, AND SO WE WILL NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE ON SEVERAL OF THESE ISSUES.

SO NOTHING IMMEDIATE WILL LIKELY HAPPEN, BUT YOU WILL SEE FUTURE CODE UPDATES AROUND SOME OF THESE.

YES, SIR. SO ON THE CONTEXT SENSITIVE INFILL, IS THAT SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO A PUD? FROM A COMMERCIAL PERSPECTIVE? BECAUSE AS I THINK ABOUT THIS, IT SOUNDS LIKE ESPECIALLY AS YOU TALK ABOUT CODE CHANGES, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THE SLATE MAY BE MORE BLANK AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO, SIMILAR TO HOW A PUD IS DRIVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE BY THE AREA AND BY THE DEVELOPMENT.

IS THAT A FAIR COMPARISON? IT CAN BE. IT CERTAINLY CAN BE.

IT'S ONE TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX BY WHICH WE CAN LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF AN AREA AND BE CREATIVE TO ADDRESS THE ITS CONTEXT, AND REALLY THE IDEA IS JUST TO MITIGATE IMPACTS WHERE YOU HAVE TWO USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE THROUGH MITIGATION BUT NEED THAT HELP WITH TRANSITIONING FROM EITHER A HEIGHT, BULK, INTENSIFICATION, A DENSITY ISSUE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

THANK YOU. OUR COMMERCIAL EMPLOYMENT SECTION OF THE PLAN AGAIN HIGHLIGHTS AREAS WHERE WE CAN EXPECT NEW DEVELOPMENT. SO CITY CENTER WILL LOOK VASTLY DIFFERENT BY 2040.

THROUGHOUT OUR TIME PERIOD, THE AREA AT K-7 AND K-10 WILL LOOK QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT.

SHOULD THE INFRASTRUCTURE COME INTO PLAY, AND BE WITH MULTIPLE AGENCIES FOR THAT AREA, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME DEFICIENCIES TODAY, RENNER AND K-10, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL LIKELY GET MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PLANNING PERIOD, AND SO THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTS AS WELL, AND WE HAVE POLICIES RELATED TO LOOKING AT OUR EXISTING DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL IN PARTICULAR, WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ON LARGER THAN NEEDED PARKING LOTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND HOW TO INFILL THAT THE SITE TO THE LEFT HERE, THE GRAPHIC TO THE LEFT SHOWS MAYBE ENHANCING KIND OF BRAIN AND OLDER COMPLEX BACK TO LIFE A LITTLE BIT WITH NEW PAD SITES, NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO LAY THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK DOWN FOR DEVELOPERS TO REALLY THRIVE IN LENEXA.

AGAIN, JUST A REFLECTION THAT WE'VE TAKEN OUR TECHNICAL MAPS AND TWEAK THEM HERE.

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THESE ARE IMPORTANT STREETS IN TERMS OF INFORMING US ON DEVELOPMENT, HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY TO GET WHAT WE DEMAND OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN FRONT OF US, WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS ON IN TERMS OF INTERCHANGE LOCATIONS AND HOW THAT WORKS INTO THE FUTURE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CHICKEN AND EGG WHEN IT COMES TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT IF WE DON'T PLAN IT ALL OUT AND LOOK AT IT, IT WON'T BE AS EFFICIENT, AND A REMINDER THAT PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONE OF THE MORE FUN COMPONENTS THAT WE DO IS AROUND PARKS AND REC.

WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE TRAIL SYSTEM.

WE'RE ALL PRETTY EXCITED THAT THIS NEXT PLANNING PERIOD WILL BRING A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP MORE PARKS, DEVELOP MORE TRAILS, AND REALLY ENHANCE THAT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION.

AGAIN, UPDATING THE UNIFORM DEVELOPMENT CODE, CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THIS VERY LIVING DOCUMENT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE NEAR AND LONG TERM, WE NEED TO GO ANNUALLY BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TEST OUR ASSUMPTIONS, LOOK AT THE MARKETS, LOOK AT AREAS THAT MAYBE HAVE POPPED UP WITH DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTANTLY REVIEW IT AND SO THAT IS NOT ONLY IN STATE STATUTE, BUT A GOOD PRACTICE TO DO AS WELL, AND I WOULD JUST SUMMARIZE TO NOTE AGAIN, THIS IS A GUIDE, BUT A VERY WEIGHTY GUIDE.

IT'S BROAD IN NATURE.

IT REFLECTS OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE GOALS WHERE WE WANT TO GO SO IT'S FORWARD THINKING.

IT'S REVIEWED ANNUALLY AND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, I THINK, STRIKES A BALANCE OF MANY OF THE INPUTS THAT WE'VE HAD TO DATE.

IT IS A REASONABLE I CALL IT AN IDEAL PLAN PATTERN TODAY, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S REASONABLE AND MAY BE IDEAL IN THE FUTURE, AND SO WE NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE AND OPEN TO TAKING OTHER IDEAS IN, AND WE DO THAT OFTEN, AND WE WILL CONSIDER THEM AND WE WILL LOOK AT THE PLAN AND SAY, DOES THE NEW IDEA MEET THE INTENT? IS IT GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION? IF NOT, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

SO WITH THAT MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I WILL STAND FOR QUESTIONS, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT THESE LAST FEW YEARS ON THIS EXERCISE.

QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT.

MELANIE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION, SCOTT.

YOU MAY HAVE TO REPEAT YOURSELF HERE, BUT JUST SO THAT IT'S CLEAR FOR EVERYONE IN THE ROOM AND ANYONE WATCHING TELL US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND VISION 2040.

SURE. I'LL DO MY BEST AND OTHERS MAY WANT TO CHIME IN, BUT VISION 2040 PROCEDURALLY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY THE COMMUNITY. THE PROCESS IS MUCH MORE HEAVILY WITH THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S LONGER PERIOD OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.

I WOULD ARGUE IT'S DRIVEN.

I THINK WE DO A FAIR JOB OF KIND OF COALESCING THEMES OUT OF IT, BUT IT'S REALLY WHAT WE CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY'S PLAN.

IT'S ALSO THE CITY'S PLAN.

WE ADOPT IT; WE BRING IT INTO OUR MORE FORMAL PLANS, LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

NOT EVERY CITY DOES VISIONING PLANS.

LENEXA IS VERY UNIQUE IN THAT IT DOES WHAT WE CALL VISION PLANS EVERY DECADE, AND SO THAT'S PRETTY UNIQUE.

MOST CITIES DO COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.

ANY CITY THAT HAS SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS HAS TO DO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS INTENDED TO DO MORE TECHNICAL THINGS, LAY OUT LAND USE PATTERNS, LAY OUT STREET NETWORKS, LAY OUT DENSITIES OF THINGS LIKE THAT. THINGS THAT THE VISION PLAN DOESN'T REALLY GET INTO DOESN'T DOESN'T HAVE TO, BUT I MEAN, IT DOES A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'VE SEEN IT HEALTHY CORRIDORS AND THEMES AROUND HOUSING.

SO IT TOUCHES MANY COMPONENTS OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PUTS THOSE INTO MORE FORMAL GOALS AND POLICIES THAT WE CAN WORK WITH AS WE AS WE BEGIN TO ESTABLISH THE RECORD ON LAND USE APPLICATIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND I'LL ASK CITY MANAGER, YOCHAM TO ENHANCE THAT, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT TO ENHANCE.

I THINK SCOTT DID A NICE JOB OF EXPLAINING IT.

THE VISIONING PROCESS IS UNIQUE TO LENEXA, AND I WOULD SAY IT SORT OF SETS ABOVE ALL OF THE OTHER PLANS THAT WE DO.

SO WE DID THE PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN RECENTLY, AND WE REFERENCED HEAVILY THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FROM VISION 2040 IN THAT PROCESS.

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SO GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE DO SOME DELIBERATION AS WELL? BUT ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SCOTT, HOW MUCH INVOLVEMENT WAS LIKE THE PEOPLE OUT IN THE WEST IN REGARDS TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE OUT.

THE BIGGEST THING THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW IS WHEN THERE'S A GROCERY STORE, WHEN DOES A MAJOR RETAIL, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WERE THEY INVOLVED? BECAUSE AS AS I LOOK AT THE NEW PLAN, IT'S KIND OF TAKING POTENTIALLY SOME OF THOSE THINGS OUT AND PUTTING THEM INTO BUSINESS PARKS AND SO, YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THIS AT OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE MEETING, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T REALLY TAKEN VERY FAR, AND I STILL HAVE CONCERNS WITH SOME OF THOSE AREAS BEING TAKEN AWAY.

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, AND I WILL SAY THAT THERE WASN'T TRYING TO GET TO OUR LAND USE MAP AS A WAY TO RESPOND A LITTLE BIT.

I WILL SAY THAT THERE WASN'T AN EMPHASIS IN ANY ONE PART OF THE CITY TO GET ANY MORE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PER SE, THAN ANYWHERE ELSE.

OKAY, SO BUT WHAT WE DO IN THE PLANNING INDUSTRY IS TRY TO BUILD AN URBAN FABRIC, AND WE KNOW THAT MEANS RESIDENTIAL AND JOBS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND RETAIL AND SERVICES, AND SO RECENTLY, PROBABLY PRIOR TO YOUR TIME, COUNCILMEMBER, WE'VE HAD TO FIGHT A LITTLE BIT TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS BECAUSE THE DEMAND PRESSURE FOR RESIDENTIAL WAS GREAT THEN, AND SO EVEN THEN WE HAD AREAS RESERVED FOR COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT IF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DROVE THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

OTHER PARTS OF OUR GOALS AND DESIRES WOULD NEVER BE MET, WOULD NEVER BE REALIZED, AND SO AND I'M TRYING TO GET TO YOUR TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT I DO THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS, THROUGH THE END OF THE PROCESS, MANY IN THE WESTERN AREA HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS, HAVE MADE THEIR VOICES HEARD ON CERTAIN ISSUES. I DIDN'T HEAR A LOT NECESSARILY ABOUT WANTING MORE COMMERCIAL, ALTHOUGH WE HEAR THAT KIND OF IN LESS FORMAL WAYS OUT THERE, AND WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT, THOUGH, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANT A VERY LARGE AREA OF THE WESTERN PART OF LENEXA TO BE WITHOUT SERVICES, MEANING ANYTHING DAYCARE COFFEE SHOPS MEDICAL SERVICES, EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE NEED IN THEIR WEEKLY AND DAILY LIVES TO ENJOY A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE.

SO I HOPE I'M ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

YEAH, BUT A LOT OF THOSE NODES HAVE SORT OF BEEN TAKEN AWAY, AND I REALLY THINK THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF K-10 AND K-7 WAS A REAL, REAL GREAT OPPORTUNITY, AND NOW IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, BALANCED WITH THE BUSINESS PARK ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, AND SO YOU HAVE THOSE SAME POTENTIAL USES IN THE FUTURE, WHICH I'M CONCERNED WITH HAVING, YOU KNOW, A BIG BOX FULFILLMENT CENTER BEING AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS WHEN THOSE COULD BE SOME REALLY WONDERFUL MAJOR, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE SORT OF USES.

YEAH. SO I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

ONE IS THE MARKET IS JUST NOT IN GOING TO DELIVER THE LARGE EXPANSE OF REGIONAL COMMERCIAL THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THAT AREA, AND SO THAT'S BECOME FAIRLY CLEAR THE WAY THAT THE ONLINE SHOPPING IS DOING NOTHING BUT, YOU KNOW, TRENDING UPWARD, AND FRANKLY, RETAIL HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH FULFILLMENT CENTERS AND SO THAT THOSE LAST MILE FULFILLMENT CENTERS ARE BEING REPLACED.

A LOT OF THE BIG BOXES ARE CONVERTING TO THOSE KINDS OF USES, AND SO RETAIL HAS REALLY CHANGED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HOLD ON TO, YOU KNOW, A DINOSAUR OF A TREND OF A MARKET WHEN IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE THE REALITY, AND SO WE'VE TRIED TO PLAN FOR MAYBE A LITTLE CLEARER REALITY WITH IT, BUT WE HAVE TRIED TO MAINTAIN ENOUGH COMMERCIAL AREA FOR, YOU KNOW, 2 TO 3 GROCERY STORES LAY THE OPPORTUNITY AND TO AN EARLIER POINT YOU MADE.

WE DON'T GET TO DETERMINE.

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WE'RE LAYING THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK.

WE'RE LAYING THE PLAN OUT.

WE'RE ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

WE ARE SOMETIMES HOLDING ON TO CERTAIN LAND USES SO THAT THEY DON'T GO AWAY ALTOGETHER AND GO EXTINCT, IF YOU WILL, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO MAINTAIN ENOUGH OF A ENOUGH AREA OF COMMERCIAL SO THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE BELIEVE LENEXANS NEED, WHICH ARE GROCERY SERVICES, SOME OF THE MEDIUM TO SMALLER SIZE RESIDENTIAL OR RETAIL COUNCILMEMBER IF I COULD JUST ADD, I THINK THE TERM I THINK OF WHEN I THINK OF WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THAT PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY, IS MORE ABOUT RIGHTSIZING.

I THINK WE'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE SPACES FOR THOSE USES TO GO BUT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF K-7 AND K-10, THE AMOUNT OF RETAIL THAT WAS THERE, IS AKIN TO WHAT YOU SEE AT 95TH AND QUIVIRA AND THAT TYPE OF OAK PARK MALL AND ALL OF THE TRIMMINGS AND THOSE SORTS OF DEVELOPMENTS JUST SORT OF DON'T EXIST ANYMORE, TO SCOTT'S POINT.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS ONE TINY PIECE OF THIS VERY BIG, BROAD DOCUMENT THAT GIVES US ALL SORTS OF IMPORTANT GUIDANCE AND STRATEGIES AROUND COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO TO SCOTT'S POINT OF BUILDING A FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU MAYBE CAN'T LOOK AT THIS MAP AND KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE NEXT GROCERY STORE IS GOING TO GO, BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS WHERE IT COULD GO, AND WE HAVE LOTS OF POLICY GUIDANCE AND IMPLEMENTATION STEPS HERE THAT WE THINK WILL HELP US TO GET THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO RIGHTSIZE THAT AS COMPARED TO WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE LAST MAP, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A TINY PIECE OF THE WHOLE OF THE WHOLE PLAN.

SCOTT, WOULD YOU ALSO GO FORWARD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD NODES MAP? THAT'S A LITTLE MORE HELPFUL FOR THIS DISCUSSION, PLEASE.

YES. SO THOSE ARE NODES THAT, AGAIN, PROBABLY NOT THE LEVEL OF GROCERY STORE AND MULTIPLE TENANT, BUT THESE ARE AREAS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO GET SOME.

NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE TYPE THINGS ESTABLISHED.

WELL, YOU KNOW, BECKY, YOU TALKED ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, RIGHTSIZING THINGS, BUT IN MY OPINION, THE NORTHEAST AND NORTHWEST CORNERS OF K-10, K-7 IS WAY OVERBLOWN IN REGARDS TO RIGHTSIZING. THAT'S WAY TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT KIND OF YOU'RE TALKING ALL THESE FULFILLMENT CENTERS AND STUFF.

IS THAT THE RIGHT USE ON THOSE CORNERS.

I KNOW YOU WANT ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THIS STUFF, BUT YEAH, IT JUST YOU KNOW, I HARDEN BACK TO THE BLUE HAWK OUT THERE AT 159TH AND METCALF.

THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON.

THAT'S A PRETTY MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, AND HAS THAT EVER BEEN ENVISIONED AT A CERTAIN LOCATION IN LENEXA? I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE NOTION OF IF AN IDEA LIKE THAT CAME TO US, IT WOULD BE A VERY ITERATIVE PROCESS.

WE WOULD BEGIN THE DISCUSSIONS KEEPING A VERY OPEN MIND ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES AND LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF IT, AND THEN MAKE SOME DECISIONS BASED ON THAT. REMEMBER THAT OUR CONTEXT HERE IS IS AGAINST TWO STATE HIGHWAYS, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, 435 AND K-10 AND I-35, LOOK AT THOSE LAND USES THAT I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK, OKAY, THOSE ARE GOOD USES AGAINST TWO STATE HIGHWAYS, AND WHAT DO YOU DO IN THE BEND, THE CURVE OF STATE HIGHWAYS? THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMPATIBLE LAND USES SHORT OF A PRETTY INTENSE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OR BUSINESS PARK TYPE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAN WORK THERE, AND BECAUSE OF THE NOISE OF THE HIGHWAY, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACTS AND FRANKLY, THE TRANSPORTATION ITSELF IS A LITTLE CONSTRAINED, AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE GOOD EXAMPLES IN THE CITY TODAY OF SUCCESSFUL LAND USES ALONG STATE HIGHWAYS BY WHICH TO CALL FROM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO HERE.

IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD BE AN AUTOMATIC TURN AWAY ON SOMETHING ELSE, AS LONG AS AGAIN, AS IT MET THE CONTEXT AROUND INTENT, WHAT WHAT INTENSITY IT IS, WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IT GENERATES, WHAT KIND OF LAND USES ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT? I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT, IT MAKES IT A LOT MORE EASIER FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND PUT A BIG FULFILLMENT CENTER AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS THAN IF IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BECAUSE IT CORRESPONDS WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH PUSHBACK WHERE THAT'S MY CONCERN.

IT'S WE DON'T HAVE REALLY MUCH CHOICE DOWN THE ROAD.

THAT'S I IT WOULD STILL GO THROUGH EVERY STAGE OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND BE APPROVED BY STAFF PLANNING

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IT DOESN'T MAKE IT EASIER.

YOU HAVE TO PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER TO SAY WHAT YOU THINK AN APPROPRIATE USE IS.

IT HAS TO BE ONE OR THE OTHER TO FILL IN A MAP LIKE THAT.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GIVE SOMEONE NO GUARDRAILS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

LET'S NOT MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

BILL, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YEAH, I AGREE WITH MARK THAT ONCE WE MAKE IT PURPLE, IT'S NOT WITHOUT GUARDRAILS BUT IF SOMEBODY COMES IN WITH A FULFILLMENT CENTER OR BUSINESS PARK THAT I THINK IT'S ALMOST A DONE DEAL, AND DOES THIS ALLOW US, THOUGH, IN BUSINESS PARKS, ARE WE ABLE TO PUT RESTAURANTS AND COMMERCIAL IN IT? YES. IS THE ANSWER TO THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE AREA THAT'S SHOWING UP PURPLE AT SEVEN AND TEN IS THERE FOR A NUMBER OF, I THINK, THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATIONS.

ONE IS I MENTIONED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF BALANCING THE TAX BASE THAT GOES INTO OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AND FRANKLY, WE'RE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES IN WHAT WE HAVE AT 435 AND I-35, AND SO WE DIDN'T SET OUT NECESSARILY TO LOOK FOR THE NEXT BUSINESS PARK, BUT AGAIN, IT IS A USE THAT'S IN DEMAND.

WE TALK THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME AND IT'S AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR IT.

SO IT IS A VERY REASONABLE, COULD ARGUE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR IT UP AGAINST THE HIGHWAY, JUST LIKE IT HAS BEEN ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR STARTING POINT.

DOES THE MARKET SHIFT IN THE FUTURE? MAYBE IT DOES, AND A MIXED USE DEVELOPER FINDS THE OPPORTUNITY AND COMES TO US AND SAYS, HEY, WILL YOU CONSIDER THIS? WELL THEN OF COURSE WE WOULD GIVE A DUE CONSIDERATION.

I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WHILE WE ARE PLANNING FOR THIS AND DURING THIS TIME PERIOD, A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS TO OCCUR IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION TO GO FORWARD.

SOME, SOME COSTLY INFRASTRUCTURE, STARTING WITH AN INTERCHANGE AT LONE ELM, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE OVERPASS OVER 7 HIGHWAY OR PRAIRIE STAR, AND K-7 IS NOT ABLE TO TAKE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CHICKEN AND EGG.

THERE ALWAYS IS WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEVELOPMENT.

WELL YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT INTERSECTION, BUT MY POINT IS, WAS THAT EVEN IF A DEVELOPMENT CAME IN FOR SUBURBAN DENSITY ON A YELLOW PIECE OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THAT WOULD BE ALMOST A DONE DEAL, TOO.

YEAH I THINK WHAT YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE DO THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE LAND USE PATTERN, AND VIRTUALLY ANY ONE OF THEM COULD BE ARGUED A DIFFERENT WAY, I WOULD ARGUE, AND SO WE THINK THIS IS IDEAL FOR THE INPUTS OF TODAY.

WHAT WE KNOW OF THE ARTERIAL STREET NETWORK, WHAT WE KNOW OF K-10 AND K-7 TODAY, WHAT WE KNOW OF THE DEMAND PRESSURE, THE MARKET PRESSURES WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN IDEAL, AND IN FACT, I WOULD ARGUE AS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, THAT BY 2040 WE SEE THIS LAND USE PATTERN START COMING TO FRUITION BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD BE HEALTHY FOR LENEXA.

CAN WE PAUSE THERE? I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE THAT MAYBE CAME TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

THIS IS WE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS.

AS SCOTT MENTIONED, WE'VE TAKEN ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, EMAILS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AND INCORPORATED AS MUCH AS THAT FEEDBACK AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY.

MY NAME IS GREG SEAVEY.

MY ADDRESS IS 9885 SADDLE TOP STREET LENEXA.

I'M IN THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ACTUALLY VERY CLOSE TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S CANYON CREEK HIGHLANDS, AND I REPRESENT THAT GROUP.

I HAVE BEEN A REPRESENTATIVE.

I HAVE MET WITH MANY, MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS JUST TO TALK THROUGH KIND OF THEIR FEELINGS OR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HAPPENING TO THE AREA JUST TO THE SOUTH OF OUR BORDER, AND WE ARE OUR OBJECTIVE IS TONIGHT AT LEAST,

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YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE'VE ADDED SOME OF THEM IN THE PAST, BUT WE ARE BEFORE THE VOTING COMMITTEE AND WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE MAYBE ONE LAST OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF EXPRESS WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH SCOTT, AND SCOTT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE TO MYSELF AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP TO TALK WITH US ABOUT WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE, AND AFTER SEVERAL OF THOSE SESSIONS AND ACTUALLY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, I DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD BE RECEPTIVE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS BUT IN THE END, IF YOU READ THE NOTES, THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE EXPRESSED.

MANY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS WERE SAYING THAT THEY DID NOT WANT A SCENARIO THAT WOULD HAVE A DANGEROUS SCHOOL CROSSING GOING ACROSS 99TH STREET.

THEY DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A SEMI TRUCKS TRAVELING UP AND DOWN NEXT TO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THEY WERE CONFIDENT THAT THE GROUP, WITH SCOTT'S SUPPORT AND THEIR VOTES AS WELL, WOULD NOT HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

OUR CONCERN IS THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN AND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE OR THAT WE DIDN'T DOCUMENT WHAT HOW WE FELT OR WHAT WAS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO AGAIN, TONIGHT IS JUST TO EXPRESS THOSE FEELINGS AND BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE PINCH POINTS OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE FELT WERE MOST CONCERNING.

AGAIN, I JUST SPOKE ABOUT THE 99TH STREET.

THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP ONES FOR US AS TO WHAT ITS PLACEMENT WOULD BE AND WHAT ITS STATUS WOULD BE AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WITH SCOTT, THE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY PLAN, AS WE TALKED THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT HAVE 99TH STREET BE A MAJOR ARTERIAL FOR SEMI TRUCKS.

THERE'S OTHER THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS, WHETHER IT'S VAN DUNRAVEN OR WHETHER IT'S A PORTION OF GLEASON OR GOING OVER TO CLARE.

THERE'S OPTIONS SO THAT WE DON'T CREATE A DANGEROUS SCHOOL CROSSING GOING ACROSS THE HEAVIEST SEMI TRAFFIC THAT WE'VE GOT.

WE CAN LIMIT WHAT SEMIS GO UP AND DOWN GLEASON AVENUE TO 97TH STREET NEXT TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

SO OUR POSITION IS NOT NECESSARILY TO CATEGORICALLY MOVE THE STREETS SOUTH AS FAR AS WE CAN.

I THINK WAS A STATEMENT IN IN THE DOCUMENTATION.

OURS WAS NOT TO HAVE ALL OF THE NUISANCE OF A MAJOR ARTERIAL DAY AND NIGHT, POTENTIALLY WITH AN AMAZON TYPE REDEMPTION CENTER, AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT PUSHES IT AWAY FROM ONE OF LENEXA'S PREMIER NEIGHBORHOODS IN CANYON CREEK HIGHLANDS.

THAT JUST DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THE WAY THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED WITH THE NEW PLAN.

SO WITH THOSE ACCOMMODATIONS, POTENTIALLY AT LEAST THE IDEAS OF HOW IT CAN BE MODIFIED OR CHANGED IT, IT'S COMFORTING TO HAVE SCOTT AND HIS GROUP OPEN TO US AND OPEN TO THOSE KIND OF CONVERSATIONS, FOR ME, AT LEAST, AS BEING A REPRESENTATIVE KIND OF A LEARNING LESSON, IS THAT I WAS OFFERING ATTEMPTED SOLUTIONS TO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO OFFER SOLUTIONS.

SCOTT'S GROUP OFFERS THE MOST INTELLIGENT SOLUTIONS.

NOT US SAYING, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU MOVE IT SOUTH? OR WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS? IT'S MUCH MORE IMPORTANT FOR THAT DIALOG TO CONTINUE BETWEEN THE GROUP OF US.

THE SECOND THING THAT WAS OF MAJOR CONCERN WAS KIND OF THAT ZONING AREA.

THAT IS JUST TO THE WHAT WOULD BE THE EAST OF GLEASON ROAD.

BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR CORNER, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL IT UP, I GUESS, DO WE HAVE IT OR MAYBE A MAP KIND OF LIKE THAT ONE? NO, BUT IT'S THIS AREA RIGHT HERE I GOT RIGHT THERE.

YEAH. RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT. SO THE TIP IS POINTING TO.

RIGHT, I THINK GLEASON ROAD IS WHERE THE EW MEDIUM DENSITY AREA IS.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE YELLOW AND THE PURPLE UP ON THE MAP, AND OUR PROPOSAL WAS TO EXTEND THAT MEDIUM DENSITY TO THE EAST OF GLEASON ROAD AS WELL, BECAUSE A CORNER OF CANYON CREEK HIGHLANDS IS RIGHT THERE THAT BORDERS THE BUSINESS PARK.

SO TO HAVE A PREMIER NEIGHBORHOOD, ABSOLUTELY, BUT UP TO ONE CORNER OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY CONCERNING TO US, AND SECOND OF ALL, THAT GREEN AREA THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THAT AS WELL IS A STREAMWAY AREA, AND THE AREA THAT IT CONNECTS WITH GLEASON AT

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IT'S JUST AN OPEN AREA WITH WITH IN EFFECT, NO VISUAL BLOCK, NO STREAMWAY BLOCK, NO NOTHING THAT WOULD DISCONNECT IT OR CREATE BARRIERS VERSUS WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH A BUSINESS PARK RIGHT IN THAT CORNER.

SO OUR PROPOSAL WAS TO MOVE SOME MORE OF THE MODERATE DENSITY OR MEDIUM DENSITY THAT DIRECTION, AND IT SEEMED TO BE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER CITIZENS OF LENEXA SAYING THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MODERATELY PRICED HOUSING IN LENEXA.

WHAT A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY, WE THOUGHT, TO EXTEND THAT BORDER OVER GLEASON, ELIMINATE THAT TIP TO TIP CORNER AND CREATE SOME OTHER SOLUTIONS. SO WE HAVEN'T HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.

SCOTT AND I AND OTHERS HAVE HAVE TALKED AT TIMES ABOUT THE POTENTIAL.

IF IT DOES BECOME A BUSINESS PARK, THEN WE CERTAINLY WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT I WILL CALL THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ABOUT HOW YOU BORDER AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A BUSINESS PARK, HOW YOU ARGUABLY SHOULD CREATE GRADUATED INCREASES IN DENSITY FROM SUBURBAN DENSITY TO MODERATELY INCREASED DENSITY, AND HAVING A BUFFER THAT JUST BUTTS RIGHT UP TO EACH OTHER WITH SUBURBAN DENSITY, AND BUSINESS PARK IS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT BEEN CHALLENGED OR NOT, I SHOULDN'T SAY CHALLENGED HAS NOT OCCURRED IN LENEXA FOR A LONG TIME.

IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE MAP, KIND OF THE CLOSEST THING THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED MAY HAVE BEEN 25 YEARS AGO WITH COUNTRY HILL WEST AND THE EXPANSION OF 95TH STREET, BUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THERE'S NOT MUCH THERE WASN'T THE DEFINITION THAT THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLACES ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'RE ABOUT KIND OF STICKING WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, AND VERY HONESTLY, THERE'S A TRUST FACTOR THAT I THINK THAT HAS BEEN BEGUN TO BE BUILT, BUT INSIDE OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE REALLY NEED FOR THE CITY TO ACTUALLY WALK THE TALK AND KIND OF FOLLOW THAT PLAN THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED OF HOW TO DEAL WITH IT IF IN FACT IT DOES OCCUR.

I KIND OF AGREE WITH BILL, IF WE MEET UP WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT'S READY TO GO WITH A BUSINESS PARK, I THINK THIS GROUP, THE COUNCILMEMBER AND THE MAYOR WILL HAVE A TOUGH TIME TURNING IT DOWN.

IF IT IS APPROVED AND IT'S REASONABLE AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO THE BASE, IT WILL BE A TOUGH CONVERSATION TO LET IT GO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WANTS, YOU KNOW, MORE INFILL CONTEXT OR SOMETHING; IT'LL BE TOUGH.

I'VE SAID MINE.

I'VE RE-DOCUMENTED, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.

BEFORE WE SORT OF FINALIZE OUR DISCUSSION, JUST SORT OF WANT TO UNDERSCORE WHAT BECKY MENTIONED AS FAR AS THIS IS ALL VERY BIG PICTURE, AND EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CHAMBER GOES OVER THE FINE TOOTH, DETAILS OF EVERY APPLICATION THAT WE RECEIVE AND THAT HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BY STAFF BEFORE THAT. SOMETIMES DEVELOPERS DON'T EVEN MAKE IT TO THOSE STEPS.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND ENGAGE WITH NEIGHBORS.

AS THE DETAILS OF THIS DEVELOP.

WE RIGHT NOW ARE SETTING THE EDGES OF THE PUZZLE FOR PIECES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CUT YET OR IMAGINED YET.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

BILL. SCOTT, COULD YOU FLESH OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE, MR. SEAVEY'S COMMENT ABOUT DUNRAVEN? THAT'S THE STREET JUST WEST OF THE HOSPITAL, RIGHT? YES.

WHAT'S THE QUESTION, SIR? SAID SOMETHING ABOUT TRAFFIC GOING UP, DUNRAVEN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS IN RELATION TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TRUCKS TO GET TO K-7, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THE CONCERNS, AND I HAVE APPRECIATED MR. SEAVEY'S DIALOG FOR OUR TIME NOW, AND HIS IDEAS ARE VERY INTELLIGENT AND BUT THE CONCERNS, AS I HAVE SIFTED THROUGH THEM ARE TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, SORT OF BOTH ALONG 99TH STREET AND THROUGH VERY LOCAL STREETS LIKE LIKE GLEASON AND DUNRAVEN. THERE'S A SCHOOL IN THE AREA.

MAYOR YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL PLAN.

ALL OF THESE ISSUES EVENTUALLY GET SORTED OUT WITH DEVELOPMENTS AND WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM

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HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE GOAL, RIGHT? NOT 100%, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE PLENTY OF EXAMPLES IN LAWRENCE ALONG 95TH STREET OR QUIVIRA, WHERE WE HAVE BUSINESS PARK ACROSS THE STREET FROM A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY ARE DEEMED COMPATIBLE BECAUSE OF HOW WE APPLY THE CODE WITH SCREENING AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND WIDE STREETS, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE ALL TRANSITIONAL, TRANSITORY, SORT OF TRANSITIONING.

I'M MAKING ALL KINDS OF WORDS UP.

[CHUCKLING] YOU ALSO REFERRED TO US AS LAWRENCE.

LET'S NOT DO THAT EITHER.

I DID? OH, MY GOD, THAT'S-- [CHUCKLING] --IT'S MUSCLE MEMORY.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TAPE NOW.

NOW YOU'VE LOST.

SO MY POINT IS THAT YOU'RE RIGHT.

MANY OF THE CONCERNS WILL BE MITIGATED EITHER THROUGH DIFFERENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS THEMSELVES, BUT I STILL STAND AS THE STAFF PERSON TO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS THE IDEAL LAND USE BY WHICH TO BEGIN THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

THE NEIGHBORS ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO HAVE A SAY IN IT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THERE ARE GREAT CONCERNS BROUGHT FORTH, BUT THERE ARE ALSO ISSUES THAT EXIST TODAY JUST BY THE NATURE OF HOW YOU HAVE TO BUILD THAT URBAN FABRIC.

MR. SEAVEY AND SCOTT HAVE LET ME FOLLOW THEIR CONVERSATION THROUGH THIS, THIS PART OF THE PROCESS, AND AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, THEY'RE BOTH GENTLEMEN, AND MR. SEAVEY USED THE WORD TRUST, AND I SEE THAT IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS AND, JUST LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF OF PARTS WILL TOUCH AS PROPOSALS COME IN, AND JUST LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID, I THINK THEY RAISED THE TRUST OF MR. SEAVEY AND HIS NEIGHBORS BY TALKING ABOUT TRUCK ROUTES AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND BUFFERING AND EVEN THE EVEN THAT POINTED 99TH AND GLEASON.

YOU KNOW, IF IT DOES BECOME THAT, THEN I THINK WE DID A MARVELOUS JOB OF ON STORETROPOLIS A FEW YEARS AGO OF THE BUFFERING AND THE RICK AND STUCCO WALLS AND MR. SEAVEY EVEN CONVINCED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REDUCE SOME DENSITY THAT HAD BEEN ORIGINALLY PLANNED. JUST THROUGH THE POLITE, RESPECTFUL CONVERSATION THAT HAPPENED AND IT I THINK IT CONTINUED TONIGHT. SO THANK YOU.

OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

CRAIG. MAKE SURE THE BUTTONS DO I PUSH.

I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THE PLAN AT THIS STAGE.

FINALLY, I THINK A LOT OF WORK HAS BEEN PUT INTO IT AND AS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED, IT'S A THIS PARTICULAR MAP IS A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TOOL THAT WE HAVE AND WILL USE WHEN WE TALK TO OTHER AGENCIES IN THE STATE, PARTICULARLY KDOT, WHEN WE GO TO MAKE A CASE FOR INTERCHANGES AND WHY THOSE INTERCHANGES WOULD BE SO IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF LENEXA, AND EVEN AS WE SHARE THIS WITH THE STATE, WE'VE NOT PUT ANYTHING DOWN THAT SAYS THERE'S REALLY GOING TO BE THIS HERE, BUT IT'S SORT OF A GUIDING DOCUMENT THAT SHOWS KIND OF WHAT VISION 2040 BROUGHT US AND WHAT THE FOLKS THAT WERE ALL ENGAGED IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS DOCUMENT AND THAT WAS COMMUNITY FOLKS, AND IT WAS STAFF, AND IT WAS, I THINK, A VERY WELL DONE DOCUMENT.

SO KUDOS TO YOU.

WELL, KUDOS TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED, NOT JUST YOU.

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MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS WERE AFTER MR. SEAVEY TALKED I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU, SCOTT AND ALL WHO HAVE WORKED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE PAST THREE PLUS YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN AT IT, AND IT TRULY DOES SERVE AS A ROADMAP TO LENEXA'S FUTURE.

PARKS AND TRAILS, COMMERCIAL, HOUSING, NEIGHBORHOODS, EVERYTHING.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HOWEVER, THERE'S ONE ASPECT THAT WILL CAUSE ME TO VOTE NO, AND IT'S THE HIGH DENSITY, ADDITIONAL HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, AS I MENTIONED OFTEN, AND ESPECIALLY AT OUR JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I DON'T THINK WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL 207 ACRES OF HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN YOU PUT IT ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, WHEN THEY COME IN WITH THAT PROPOSAL, IN MY MIND IT'S ALMOST A DONE DEAL. WE HAVE PLENTY OF HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS ALREADY BUILT OR APPROVED AND READY TO BE BUILT. WE DON'T NEED AN ADDITIONAL 207 ACRES IN ADDITION TO THE 670 THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUILT OR EARMARKED.

ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS, AND I'M KIND OF A JOHNNY COME LATELY TO THIS.

IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME THAT MIXED USE AREAS HAD HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS IN THEM, POSSIBLY UNTIL WE WERE TALKING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THOSE CORNERS THAT SEVEN AND TEN, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER I GOT THE NUMBER HERE SOMEWHERE THAT'S ANOTHER 258 ACRES OF HIGH DENSITY, POSSIBLY IN THOSE MIXED USE AREAS.

I THINK WE HAVE PLENTY.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER 207 ACRES, AND I'M WILLING TO BET ALL OF US UP HERE HAVE HEARD THE QUESTION.

WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENTS? AND THAT QUESTION IS NOT IN THE TONE OF A POSITIVE.

WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THOSE APARTMENTS? I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT VISION 2040.

I SERVED AS THE CITY COUNCIL'S LIAISON ON THAT COMMITTEE, LED BY LOGAN AND SEAN, STACY KNIPP, MIKE STEIN AND I COULD ONLY FIND ONE REFERENCE TO HIGH DENSITY, AND THAT WAS IN REGARDS TO IF WE BUILD HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, MAKE THEM LOOK CONSISTENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.

THE RESIDENTS OF LENEXA, I DON'T THINK, INDICATED THAT THEY WANT ADDITIONAL HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, AND , YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CUTE THINGS ABOUT THE VISION 2040 REPORT.

WAS EVERYBODY HOLDING UP A I LIKE LENEXA BUMPER STICKER AND THEN RIDING IN WHAT THEY WANT? THERE'S OVER 200 OF THOSE IN 2040.

MORE ART, A 24 HOUR LIBRARY, GOOD SCHOOLS, GREAT JOBS.

I COULD NOT FIND ONE BUMPER STICKER THAT WANTED HIGH DENSITY.

I HOPE YOU ALL UP HERE FEEL THE SAME WAY REGARDING HIGH DENSITY.

I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF PEOPLE SALUTING THAT AT THE JOINT MEETING, BUT I HOPE THINGS HAVE CHANGED A BIT, AND I WANT TO VOTE FOR THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS THREE YEAR EFFORT.

THEREFORE, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INSTRUCT BECKY TO INSTRUCT THE STAFF TO ELIMINATE THAT 207 ACRES OF ADDITIONAL HIGH DENSITY APARTMENTS, AND THAT'S THE MOTION I WOULD MAKE TONIGHT.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

OKAY. MOTION TO REMAND TO STAFF.

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IT'S A MOTION TO STAFF AT THIS POINT.

THERE IS A YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE ON, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THIS MOTION.

OKAY. THE OPTIONS YOU WOULD HAVE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO, WOULD BE TO APPROVE, OVERTURN, OR REMAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OKAY. I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH SCOTT A LITTLE BIT.

OUR STRATEGY IS THAT AT THAT POINT, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD.

OKAY. TAKE A MOTION ON THAT.

WE COULD CERTAINLY CONTINUE THIS TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.

SO LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON THE CURRENT MOTION TO SEND BACK TO STAFF.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON? ON YOUR MOTION TO SEND BACK TO STAFF? YOU BET, I HEARD, SEAN, DID I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY THAT WE'RE SENDING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? NO, WE ARE NOT. MAYOR, CAN WE TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS? THIS IS NOT THE NORMAL PROCESS BY WHICH YOU WOULD ACT ON THIS WOULD NOT INCLUDE WHAT YOU JUST DID, BILL.

SO WE NEED A COUPLE MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S IN ORDER FROM A.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YOU CAN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

WE'VE GOT COMPUTERS UP HERE AND MICROPHONES WORK.

ARE WE BACK IN SESSION? MAYOR, PLEASE.

SO THE STATUTE THAT GOVERNS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPROVALS GIVES THE CITY COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO APPROVE THE TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO OVERRIDE THAT OR TO REMAND IT, TO RETURN IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCILMEMBER NICKS, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTION, YOU'RE ASKING THAT THE ADDITIONAL 207 ACRES THAT IS DESIGNATED AS HIGH DENSITY ON THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP BE REMOVED, AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S REALLY NOT THAT SIMPLE.

THERE'S NOT JUST 207 ACRES THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE, THAT WE CAN EASILY UNWIND THAT.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BEEN A THREE YEAR PROCESS INVOLVING DOZENS AND DOZENS OF PEOPLE AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS, AND SO TO BE ABLE TO JUST FLIP 207 ACRES BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE, IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE, BECAUSE MAYBE THEY WENT FROM ONE THING TO SOMETHING ELSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED PROCESS.

SO AFTER DISCUSSING IT WITH SCOTT AND SEAN IF IT IS YOUR WISH THAT WE DO THAT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION AND INSTEAD MOVE TO REMAND THIS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHERE WE CAN TAKE THE PROPER TIME TO STUDY WHAT THAT EXACTLY WOULD BE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST 207 ACRES THAT GOT WENT FROM ONE COLOR TO ANOTHER, THAT WE CAN SIMPLY TURN THEM BACK TO A COLOR, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT COLOR THEY WENT TO WHEN THEY WENT AWAY FROM FROM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SO MY SUGGESTION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WISH US TO STUDY, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL AGREES WITH YOU THAT WE SHOULD DO THAT.

MY SUGGESTION IN DOING THAT WOULD BE THAT YOU ASK US TO REMAND THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO THAT WE CAN TAKE THE PROPER TIME TO STUDY THIS ONCE AGAIN, AFTER HAVING DONE SO FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.

SO I WOULD WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

JOE WOULD WITHDRAW HIS SECOND AND THEN MAKE A MOTION TO REMAND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

YES, AND IS THAT MAJORITY? YES, YES.

I WITHDRAW MY MOTION WITH NO ADDITIONAL MOTION.

I WITHDRAW MY FIRST MOTION AND MOVE THAT.

WE REMAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

TO LOOK AT THIS HIGH DENSITY QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I WITHDRAW MY SECOND.

WILL THERE BE DISCUSSION ON THIS? THE REASON I ASK THAT IS I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE ENERGY OF REMANDING IT IF THE BODY IS.

I MEAN, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SPOKEN.

WE KNOW WHERE THEY FEEL.

SO I'D BE INTERESTED IF WE CAN, BY OUR PROCEDURE, DISCUSS THIS AND WHAT OUR FEELINGS ON IT.

OR DOES THAT NEED A SECOND BEFORE WE CAN DISCUSS IT? I THINK IN ORDER TO DISCUSS THE MOTION, IT NEEDS A SECOND.

YOU CERTAINLY CAN DISCUSS IT, AND IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT WISH TO DO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER NICKS HAS SUGGESTED, THEN HONESTLY, FROM JUST A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU NOT VOTE FOR THE MOTION BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT EXERCISE IF THERE IS NOT THE VOTES TO CHANGE THAT 207 ACRES TO SOMETHING ELSE, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF FLIPPING A SWITCH.

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I WILL SECOND THAT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US ALL TO DISCUSS IT.

NOT I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW I'LL VOTE ON IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS THAT.

OKAY. THOUGHTS ON REMANDING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? GREG SCOTT AND HIS FOLKS HAVE WORKED AWFULLY HARD FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND I THINK THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF COMMUNITY INPUT, STAFF INPUT AND OTHER THINGS AND SO FOR MANY, MANY REASONS, I'M GOING TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TONIGHT.

I THINK IT GIVES US THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT TALKING POINT, AND I THINK THAT IT'S VERY LIKELY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP ANYWAY AFTER A REMAND.

SO I WOULD PREFER TO VOTE FOR IT AND PASS IT TONIGHT.

CHELSEA. I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT CRAIG SAID.

THREE YEARS OF PAINSTAKINGLY DETAILED ANALYSIS HAVE GONE INTO DEVELOPING THIS PLAN WITH INVOLVEMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY, DEVELOPERS, STAFF.

ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS, PLANNING COMMISSION.

I MEAN, THERE'S A NUMBER I HAVEN'T LISTED, I THINK COMING IN AT THE 11TH HOUR WITH A CHANGE AFTER ALL OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE I DISAGREE WITH THAT MOVE, AND I WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT ANY REMAND.

OKAY. CHRIS.

I TOO WILL BE VOTING TO APPROVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT STANDS.

JUST TO ECHO WHAT EVERYONE SAID AWFUL LOT OF HARD WORK, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INPUT, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT REFLECTS MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT VISION 2040 IS.

TALKING WITH PEOPLE IN MY WARD, HAVING AN IDEA OF WHAT LENEXA CAN BE, AND I THINK THIS MOVES US IN THAT RIGHT DIRECTION, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A GUIDELINE, AND NOTHING IS FIXED IN THE SENSE THAT WE SAY X, Y, Z SHOULD GO AT LOCATION ONE, TWO, THREE, AND SO I THINK THIS DOES GIVE US FLEXIBILITY FOR DEVELOPING LENEXA IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE IN WAYS THAT OTHER COUNCILORS MIGHT AGREE WITH IS APPROPRIATE, BUT I THINK TODAY I HAVE TO SAY I VOTE YES AND WOULD NOT VOTE TO REMAND IT.

MOLLY. I ALSO AGREE WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID SO FAR BY MY COLLEAGUES.

I WOULD LIKE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WE HAVE IT TONIGHT.

MARK. I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM SO ADAMANT ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF K-10 AND K-7, BUT I JUST HAVE DIFFERENT VISIONS FOR THAT, AND I WASN'T INVOLVED ENOUGH, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING INVOLVED FROM THE COMMUNITY STANDPOINT BACK THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND BUT I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS, AND WHEN I WAS SOLD ABOUT LENEXA YEARS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT ALL THE INDUSTRIAL BEING CONCENTRATED TO THE INTERSECTION OF 435 AND I-35 AND NOW IT'S POTENTIALLY GOING OUT WEST FURTHER AT K-10 AND K-7, AND I DO NOT, I PREFER NOT TO SEE TRUCK TRAFFIC OUT IN THAT INTERSECTION.

WE ALREADY HAVE A, YOU KNOW, SOUTH OF US IN OLATHE, SOME BUT SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THAT JUST FOR THAT INTERSECTION.

I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER VISIONS IN THE FUTURE THAT I THINK COULD HAPPEN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE CONCENTRATED AS A BUSINESS PARK ON BOTH BOTH CORNERS.

OKAY, JOE, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE REMAND BECAUSE I HAVE OTHER COMMENTS ON THE PLAN IN GENERAL.

NEXT. I THINK BILL AND I WERE PROBABLY LONE RANGERS AT THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL PLANNING COMMISSION AS FAR AS HIGH DENSITY, AND I FEEL SIMILARLY, I'M OPPOSED TO IT, BUT I THINK IF WE DO REMAND IT, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH THE SAME RESULT.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT EFFORT BEING PRODUCTIVE AND COMING OUT WITH A DIFFERENT, EVEN THOUGH I WOULD LIKE A DIFFERENT RESULT, I DON'T SEE IT COMING OUT WITH A DIFFERENT RESULT.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO BE VOTING AGAINST THE REMAND.

OKAY. SO FOR FORMALITY, SEAN, MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED TO REMAND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? NAY. MOTION FAILS TO SEND BACK TO PLANNING COMMISSION.

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SO MOVED. SECOND.

THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

MOTION BY CRAIG.

SECOND BY CHELSEA.

ANY DISCUSSION YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE NOW, PLEASE? THANK YOU. YEAH.

SO THAT TOOK ONE OF MY THREE AWAY AT LEAST, I GUESS.

[CHUCKLING] SO THIS'LL MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.

YOU KNOW, K-7 AND K-10 THAT CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.

JUST FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AND WE THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE JOINT MEETING.

THAT'S NOT A FRONT DOOR TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A MAJOR INTERCHANGE, AND SO SEEING THAT DEVELOP IN THE MANNER LIKE WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS SOUTH OF 95TH IN THE BUSINESS PARK THERE THAT JUST WENT UP IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

THOSE TO ME WOULD BE GREAT.

AT THIS LOCATION.

THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE SOUTH OF THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT WOULD NOT BE VERY ATTRACTIVE TO HAVE NORTH OF K-10.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS WE ARE AWARE OF THAT AND AS DEVELOPERS COME FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS IN THE RECORD AND HOPEFULLY DEVELOPERS UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HIGH QUALITY BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR INTERSECTION WITHIN LENEXA.

SO THAT'S ITEM NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO IS I REALLY, REALLY LIKE THE COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE MISSING MIDDLE.

I THINK WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE IS THE MARKET IS GOING TO DRIVE WHAT THE MARKET BUILDS.

SO I THINK IN THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET CREATIVE IN HOW WE DO THINGS, AND THAT MIGHT BE INCENTIVES.

THAT MIGHT BE LAND TRUSTS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK IF WE TRULY WANT TO DO THAT AND I ABSOLUTELY DO, I THINK WE ABSOLUTELY NEED ATTAINABLE HOUSING.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US OVER TIME AS THIS PLAN DEVELOPS, WE CONSIDER CODES AND WE CONSIDER INCENTIVES.

LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN INSTEAD OF LETTING THE MARKET JUST DO WHAT IT WANTS TO DO.

LET'S DRIVE THE MARKET TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMENT, BUT AS WE DO LOOK AT CODES, I'D REALLY LIKE US TO LOOK AT MAKING SURE THAT CHURCHES IN R-1 ARE ON ARTERIALS.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT THERE I THINK IT'S LONE ELM AND HUNTER FIRST AROUND THERE, THAT KIND OF BECAME A LITTLE STICKY BECAUSE WE HAD THESE, THESE BIG INSTITUTIONS RIGHT NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I DO WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY FOR THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS.

I KNOW THERE WERE COUNTLESS HOURS AND YOU KNOW, I THINK BY AND LARGE, WE HAVE A GREAT PLAN TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE APPROVAL MOTION? OKAY. I'LL FINISH THIS EVENING BY MAYBE ECHOING MY PREDECESSOR IN SAYING WHAT WE DO BEST IN LENEXA IS CHEW ON THINGS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN OTHER CITIES DO OR THAT PEOPLE WOULD EXPECT AND THE PROCESS SOMETIMES CAN GET BUMPY, AS IT MAYBE DID FOR A MOMENT HERE THIS EVENING, ESPECIALLY WITH A POWER OUTAGE, BUT WE ALWAYS END UP WITH A RESULT THAT EVERYONE CAN BE PROUD OF. THAT WE'VE HAD A RESPECTFUL DIALOG ABOUT AND THAT I THINK THAT WE CAN ANSWER TO OUR RESIDENTS IN A WAY THAT THE PROCESS WAS FULLY VETTED.

ALL STAKEHOLDERS WERE INCLUDED, EVERYONE'S VOICE WAS HEARD, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE A PROGRESSIVE AND VISIONARY COMMUNITY THAT DOES THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. SO SCOTT, KUDOS TO YOU AND ALL THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO THIS [INAUDIBLE] LEVINE AND ALL YOUR TEAM AND TO THIS GOVERNING BODY FOR HAVING A GREAT DISCUSSION HERE THIS EVENING AND ARRIVING AT A RESULT THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.

SO WITH THAT ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE TO PASS THE LENEXA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? NO. THANK YOU.

MOTION PASSES.

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS APPROVED.

[12. Vacation of right-of-way of Collins Road near the northwest corner of 99th Street & Clare Road]

ITEM 12 A IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST TO VACATE THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND ITEM 12 B IS AN ORDINANCE VACATING THE RIGHT OF WAY.

STEPHANIE, IF WE CAN COBBLE TOGETHER SOME PRESENTATION HERE, WE CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S ON YOUR SCREENS.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY UP ABOVE.

OKAY. HOW ABOUT NOW? OH, THERE WE GO. YEAH.

LOOK AT THAT LITTLE NUGGET.

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YEAH. THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY DIFFICULT THEN, BECAUSE I HAVE IT SET TO DO THE DIFFERENT SCREEN.

THE LITTLE GIRL.

HOLD ON. NOW I HAVE IT STUCK BETWEEN TWO SCREENS.

LET ME SEE. HOLD ON, AND IT'S FROZEN. THERE WE GO.

OKAY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PRESENT.

IS IT SHOWING YOU? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. NOW WE GOT THE RIGHT ONE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ALL.

STEPHANIE SULLIVAN FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

SAME PERSON, DIFFERENT NAME, AND THIS EVENING, ITEM 12 FOR YOU IS INDEED A RIGHT OF WAY.

VACATION REQUEST FOR WHAT WAS KNOWN AS COLLINS ROAD BACK IN THE LATE 1800S.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT. THIS IS LOCATED NEAR THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 99TH STREET AND CLARE ROAD.

NOW ON THE SCREENS YOU SHOULD SEE THE PROJECT LOCATION MAP TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS IS IN THE CITY.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AREA QUITE A BIT, AND TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE FURTHER HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT LOCATION AGAIN.

THIS IS NORTH OF 99TH STREET, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY AND TO THE WEST OF CLARE ROAD.

IN THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE, IT'S ABOUT A 40 FOOT WIDE STRIP, AND NORTH AND SOUTH, IT'S JUST OVER 1000FT LONG.

AS MENTIONED, IT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS COLLINS ROAD.

HASN'T BEEN AN ACTUAL ROAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

IT'S NOW ACTUALLY PART OF THE CANYON CREEK BY THE LAKE SECOND PLAT.

FOR RIGHT OF WAY VACATIONS, THERE ARE FOUR STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED.

ALL OF THESE HAVE TAKEN PLACE AND BEEN COMPLETED OR REVIEWED BY STAFF, AND I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY UTILITIES CONTACT US TO SAY THAT THEY REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS OR HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THIS RIGHT OF WAY VACATION.

SO WE RECOMMEND CONDUCTING A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MATTER, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED VACATION OF RIGHT OF WAY FOR COLLINS ROAD, NEAR THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF 99TH AND CLAIRE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF ANYONE PRESENT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND SAY YOUR PIECE.

SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.

SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED? THANK YOU. SORRY I'M LOST IN MY SCRIPT HERE.

OKAY. NEXT, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE VACATING THE COLLINS ROAD RIGHT OF WAY PLEASE.

SO MOVED. MOTION BY JOE.

SECOND BY CRAIG. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THOSE OPPOSED? ORDINANCE PASSES.

OKAY.

WE HAVE NO NEW BUSINESS THIS EVENING.

ANY COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS?

[COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS]

[STAFF REPORTS]

LOGAN, AND WHILE LOGAN'S MAKING HIS WAY UP, I'LL GIVE YOU THE ONLY OTHER STAFF REPORT WE HAVE, WHICH IS TO REMIND YOU THAT WE'LL BE BACK HERE NEXT TUESDAY FOR OUR SECOND BUDGET MEETING. THIS TIME LOOKING AT DEPARTMENT AND FUND BUDGET SPECIFICALLY.

SO WE'LL SEE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY THAT WAS A DIFFERENT GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

LOGAN WAGLER, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

I HAVE WITH ME TONIGHT BRIAN GARVEY, WHO IS A PRINCIPAL WITH SFS ARCHITECTURE.

THEY'RE OUR LEAD CONSULTANT ON THE AD ASTRA PROJECT.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY VERY EXCITED TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL TONIGHT, REALLY JUST TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE.

WE'RE KIND OF AT A REALLY COOL STAGE IN THE PROCESS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STAGE.

WE ACTUALLY ARE DOING THREE ROUNDS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AND WE JUST WRAPPED UP KIND OF THAT FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, AND AS YOU HEAR FROM BRIAN, WE'VE JUST GOTTEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRACTION, REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK, REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, BUT IN PARTICULAR, A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT LIVE NEAR THE POOL, AND HAVE JUST KIND OF ALWAYS KIND OF HELD THAT POOL NEAR AND DEAR TO THEM.

SO IT'S BEEN A VERY FUN PROCESS SO FAR.

REAL QUICKLY, JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT TEAM.

I MENTIONED BRIAN AND HIS TEAM WITH SFS ARCHITECTURE.

THEY'RE OUR LEAD CONSULTANT ON THE EFFORT.

THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL SUBCONSULTANTS UNDERNEATH THEM, INCLUDING WATER TECHNOLOGY, WTI WHO DID INDIAN TRAILS AND ALSO DID THE REC CENTER POOL.

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ALSO WANTED TO MENTION I THOUGHT THIS WAS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, A CONTRACT WITH PROSSER WILBERT, WHO WILL BE OUR CM.

WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY HEFTY SELECTION PROCESS.

PROSSER WILBERT'S ACTUALLY A LENEXA BASED COMPANY.

REALLY GOOD WITH POOLS, SO WE'RE KIND OF FINALIZING THE CONTRACT DETAILS WITH THEM AND BRINGING THAT FORWARD IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT'LL BE COMING ON BOARD TO KIND OF HELP WRAP UP THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, OF COURSE, DESIGN AND REALLY ESTIMATION SERVICES.

HOPEFULLY I'M TRACKING RIGHT WITH THE SLIDES HERE.

I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS WAS REALLY COOL.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL'S FAIRLY AWARE OF THIS, BUT WE DID PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THIS PROCESS.

WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

IN PARTICULAR, THIS IS JUST SUCH A PASSION PROJECT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

WE DO HAVE OUR VERY OWN CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.

ARROYO AND WILLIAMSON HELPING US OUT.

THEY'VE BEEN TREMENDOUS. THEY EVEN WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HUNG DOOR HANGERS.

SO THE WORD IS DEFINITELY OUT ON THE STREET.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP THERE.

WE ALSO HAVE FOUR MEMBER CITIZENS.

KIND OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE ACTUALLY GOOD CROSS SECTION HERE.

WE SELECTED THESE FOUR FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.

SOME YOUNGER, SOME OLDER, DIFFERENT PARTS OF THEIR LIFE.

USE THE POOL, USE THE PARK FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN VERY PASSIONATE, BEEN VERY VOCAL, BEEN VERY INVOLVED SINCE THE BEGINNING WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY CLOSING AD ASTRA.

ALL FOUR OF THESE FOLKS WERE INVOLVED IN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE AD ASTRA COALITION, AND AGAIN, STAYED VERY IN TUNE WITH THE PROJECT.

SO IT JUST FELT LIKE A NO BRAINER TO GET THEM INVOLVED.

IT'S BEEN FUN HAVING THEM THERE.

OBVIOUSLY THEIR PASSION, THEIR INPUT ALONG THE WAY IS GOING TO BE VERY IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT AND IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE VERY IMPORTANT AS WE GO FORWARD, AND THEN MY LAST SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY COVER BUDGET.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL IS ALWAYS KIND OF TRACKING THIS, BECAUSE THIS WILL OBVIOUSLY BE A POINT OF DISCUSSION.

I THINK AS WE GET INTO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, SOME PEOPLE ALWAYS WANT MORE, WANT TO DO MORE, AND WE ALWAYS HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S THE REALISTIC THINGS WE CAN DO WITHIN A BUDGET.

SO WE HAVE, TIM, $10 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT BUT SPECIFICALLY WE HAVE $8 MILLION FOR THE POOL BASICALLY THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING INSIDE THERE, INCLUDING THE BATHHOUSE. WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY PROTECTIVE OF THAT, TO MAKE SURE WE CAN MAXIMIZE THAT BUDGET AND STRETCH AS FAR AS WE CAN TO GET A REALLY GOOD POOL.

THE 2 MILLION OUTSIDE OF THAT IS REALLY TO ADDRESS ALL THE SITE ISSUES, DEMOLITION, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL IS VERY AWARE OF SOME OF THE SETTLEMENT ISSUES WE'RE FACING.

WE PLAN TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT COMPLETELY ADDRESSED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO EAT IN AS MUCH AS WE HAVE TO INTO THAT 2 MILLION.

HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME LEFT TO DO SOME OTHER IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE THE FENCE AS WELL, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY TO PROTECT THE AQUATICS PORTION OF THE BUDGET.

YES, THE 10 MILLION IS IN THE CIP FOR 25.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 8 MILLION.

ANOTHER 2 MILLION IS COMING IN 25.

IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, BILL LOGAN, IS THERE MONEY IN THE CIP FOR THE REST OF THE PARK, OR IS THAT THE 2 MILLION? THAT'S THE 2 MILLION.

OUTSIDE THE FENCE? YEAH. WAS THERE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE REST OF THE PARK? LIKE CONVERSATION, LIKE WITH UPGRADING THE SHELTER, THE PLAY EQUIPMENT? YEAH. SO WE'RE REALLY THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND REALLY DESIGN PROCESS IS FOCUSED SPECIFICALLY ON THE POOL.

BECAUSE AGAIN, COUNCILMEMBER NICKS JUST WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE REMEDY ANY SITE ISSUES, ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED, AND AGAIN, PROTECT THAT MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE POOL PROJECT.

SO WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS OR GO TOO FAR WITH THE PARK, BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW FAR THAT 2 MILLION WILL GO.

2 MILLION MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEMOLITION OF A HUGE POOL FACILITY WITH A DEEP WELL, A BATHHOUSE, PROBABLY PART OF THE PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S $600,000 OR MORE.

YOU START TALKING ABOUT OTHER SITE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO FOR GRADING AND REMEDY OF THE SOILS.

SO AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FAR THAT $2 MILLION WILL GO.

THE ONE THING I KNOW, THE TOP PRIORITY I KNOW FOR SURE IS WE WANT TO BUILD A NEW STANDALONE RESTROOM WITH THIS PROJECT.

IF YOU'RE AWARE, WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION, THE RESTROOM IS ATTACHED TO THE BATHHOUSE.

IT IS VERY SEPARATED FROM THE PARK.

MOST PEOPLE GO TO THE PARK, GIVE US COMPLAINTS ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU HAVE RESTROOMS? WELL, WE DO HAVE RESTROOMS THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, CROSS THE CREEK AT THE BATHHOUSE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A STANDALONE RESTROOM.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO USE THAT AS A PILOT PROJECT, DO A TOTALLY OFF GRID RESTROOM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME SOLAR PANELS, SOME OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO TAKE THAT TOTALLY OFF GRID AND ALSO LOOK AT A YEAR ROUND OPTION FOR THAT RESTROOM.

THAT'S SOMETHING KIND OF A NEW MODEL WE'RE TRYING.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH. ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS.

PARDON ME. IN THE ORIGINAL DISCUSSION AROUND THIS WAS THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH ACCESSIBILITY OF PARKING AND ADA ALL THAT.

IS THAT PART OF THAT 2 MILLION AS WELL? ABSOLUTELY. SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE, THE PARKING LOT DOES NOT MARRY UP WITH GETTING INTO THE BATHHOUSE OR THE POOL.

THERE'S NO ACCESSIBLE ROUTE TODAY, AND SO MOST LIKELY THAT SITE IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE QUITE A BIT IN ELEVATION, AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE AGAIN PROTECTING THAT 8

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YEAH. LOGAN, REFRESH MY MEMORY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ABOUT TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS SINCE I WAS ON THE PARK BOARD, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT PARK AND REC HAS A A BUDGET AND A SCHEDULE FOR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

DID YOU GET CHANGED OUT PERIODICALLY FOR SAFETY REASONS AND OTHER REASONS, AND SO DOING SOMETHING WITH THE PLAYGROUNDS IS KIND OF OFF OF THIS BUDGET AND INTO YOUR NORMAL SCHEDULE, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

SO, YEAH. THE PLAYGROUND, WE WOULD NOT TOUCH THE PLAYGROUND WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WOULD BE DONE SEPARATELY THROUGH OUR PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

SO THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE PLAYGROUND.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH AD ASTRA, IT'S ONE OF OUR ONLY FULLY WHEELCHAIR ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUNDS.

SERVES A REALLY, REALLY UNIQUE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S VERY WELL RECEIVED, BUT, YEAH, HOPEFULLY, IF WE HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER, MAYBE THAT'S ENHANCING.

MAYBE IT'S ADDING SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OR TOO FOCUSED ON THOSE THINGS UNTIL WE REALLY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POOL IS GOING TO BE AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THE SITE RIGHT.

RIGHT. MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU.

OKAY, AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER.

BRIAN WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE MAJORITY OF THIS PRESENTATION.

[CHUCKLING] SO BOTH OF US, OF COURSE, WILL BE CAN STAND FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END AS WELL.

SO YEAH, THAT'S JUST [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. WHICH WE'RE KIND OF ACOUSTIC ON THIS SIDE AND ELECTRIC ON THAT SIDE.

SO LET ME MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT SLIDE.

YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.

WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULE.

YES OKAY, AND AGAIN MY NAME IS BRIAN GARVEY I'M WITH SFS ARCHITECTURE.

ABSOLUTELY HONORED AND THRILLED TO BE WORKING ON ANOTHER IMPORTANT COMMUNITY PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF LENEXA.

WE HAD A SMALL PART IN THE RENOVATION OF OUR FORMER INDIAN TRAILS AQUATIC CENTER, NOW THE SAR-KO-PAR AQUATIC CENTER.

SO AGAIN, THRILLED TO BE WORKING ON AD ASTRA.

OUR OVERALL PROJECT SCHEDULE IS, AS LOGAN MENTIONED, IS REALLY SET ON A THREE PART PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.

WE'VE CONCLUDED THE FIRST PIECE OF THAT, BUT THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE THREE MONTHS LONG BEFORE WE GET INTO DESIGN.

WE PLAN ON STARTING THAT PROBABLY THE TAIL END OF SEPTEMBER.

THAT'LL RUN THROUGH REALLY THE SPRING OF 25, AND WE'LL GET INTO CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN PROSSER WILBERT AND THE AQUATICS CONTRACTOR AND ALL OF THEIR OTHER TRADE PARTNERS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING PROBABLY IN ABOUT MAY OF NEXT YEAR THAT'LL LEAD US TO A GRAND OPENING OF MAY OF 2026.

SO THERE WILL BE ONE SUMMER WHERE THE AD ASTRA POOL IS NOT OPERATIONAL AND NON-EXISTENT.

SO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE ENGAGEMENTS PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS SUMMER.

AS I MENTIONED, OPEN HOUSE NUMBER ONE THAT OCCURRED ON JUNE 13TH, RIGHT HERE IN THIS SPACE.

WE HAD AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE RESULTS OF BOTH OF THESE MEETINGS HERE SHORTLY, AND WE HAD A REALLY QUICK POP UP AT SAR-KO-PAR POOL.

WE CAUGHT PEOPLE COMING IN ON A SATURDAY MORNING AT NOON.

WE CAUGHT PEOPLE AT THE AT THE EVENT THAT HAPPENS FROM 10 TO 11:30 OR SO, AND I THINK REALLY WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME MORE FOLKS OUT TO THE POOL.

ALSO, THANK YOU TO COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE DOOR HANGERS.

I THINK THAT ALSO REALLY IMPROVED OUR ATTENDANCE AND OUR ENGAGEMENT.

SO TO SUMMARIZE, OPEN HOUSE NUMBER ONE, THAT WAS AN OPEN HOUSE FORMAT.

WE HAD A DOT POLLING EXERCISE AT SEVERAL STATIONS HERE IN THE SPACE.

WE HAD 49 ATTENDEES THAT SIGNED IN AND THAT POLLING EXERCISE OCCURRED OVER FOUR DIFFERENT BOARDS.

SO THOSE WERE ON EVERYTHING FROM AQUATICS TO REALLY THE KIND OF LOOK AND FEEL AND VIBE THAT MIGHT COME THROUGH IN SOME OF THE CONCEPTS AS WE GET FORWARD.

I CAN SEE BY THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT YOU INCLUDED THAT MY DAUGHTER AND HUSBAND GRANDCHILD ATTENDED AND I'M SURE GAVE YOU PLENTY OF INPUT.

INDEED. SO THE OPEN HOUSE MATERIAL, THE IMAGERY THAT WE PROVIDED AT THE OPEN HOUSE, AND THAT WE SOLICITED OPINIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ON, WAS THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WE HAD IN THE SURVEY.

SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THE OPEN HOUSE OUTCOMES FIRST.

WHAT THIS WAS WAS FOUR DIFFERENT STATIONS THAT LOOKED AT POOL TYPES.

SO OVERALL BODIES OF WATER OR TYPES OF POOLS.

AMENITIES AND FEATURES THAT MIGHT OCCUR WITHIN THOSE POOLS AND AROUND THOSE POOLS, I WOULD SAY TOO, ON THE POOL DECK, WHETHER IT'S CONCESSIONS, SHADE, WHAT HAVE YOU PROGRAMING AND THEN THAT DESIGN THEME.

SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THERE THE POOL TYPES, KIND OF THE TOP SIX.

WHAT ROSE TO THE SURFACE THERE FOR HIGH PRIORITIES OR THAT ZERO DEPTH ENTRY POOL, A CURRENT CHANNEL, AND I WANT TO BE SPECIFIC THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LAZY RIVER LIKE WE HAVE AT SAR-KO-PAR PARK OR AQUATIC CENTER, BUT A CURRENT CHANNEL, SOMETHING TYPICALLY A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, MAYBE 200FT OR A LITTLE BIT LESS, A LITTLE BIT NARROWER.

NARROWER DOESN'T TYPICALLY USE INNER TUBES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'LL USE NOODLES OR YOU JUST FREE FLOAT THROUGH IT.

LAP POOL CAME IN NUMBER THREE, TIED WITH A DEEP WATER POOL AND THEN SOCIAL ACTIVITY POOL AND A SPLASH PAD.

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BIG ZERO DEPTH ENTRY LAP LANES, PARTICULARLY AND THE DEEP WATER POOL.

NEXT WERE THE AMENITIES.

LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE WAS A CLEAR WINNER ON THE AMENITIES BOARD, FOLLOWED BY DIVING BOARDS AND THEN A SUN SHELF TIED WITH A WATER SLIDE AND UNDERWATER BENCHES.

WE ALSO KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED THE BOTTOM TWO, WHICH WERE PLAY STRUCTURES AND TODDLER SLIDES.

SO AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE SEE AT SAR-KO-PAR AQUATIC CENTER WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE, I THINK THE PUBLIC IS KIND OF ON BOARD WITH THAT IDEA AS WELL.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A SUN SHELF IS? SO A SUN SHELF OR A BAJA BENCH IS ANOTHER WAY TO TERM.

IT IS MORE OF A RESORT INSPIRED AMENITY WHERE IT'S A SHELF IN THE WATER OR A LEDGE IN THE WATER THAT'S ABOUT SIX INCHES IN AND YOU CAN HAVE A CHASE LOUNGE.

YOU CAN SIT IN THERE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WITHIN THE POOL AND IT'S MORE OF A SOCIAL OR A PASSIVE SPACE.

WELL. YES, SIR.

DO WE, LOGAN, DO WE HAVE LAP LANES? DID WE CHANGE SLIDES ON ME? I DID, I'M SORRY.

GO BACK ONE, PLEASE. GO BACK.

YES. LAP POOL.

DO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE THAT AT THE NEW SAR-KO? WE DO, AND IS THAT 25? IT IS 25, AND WHAT DO YOU PICTURE HERE? NO MORE THAN 25.

25 AT THE GREATEST.

YEAH, AND HOW MANY? I MEAN, DO WE PICTURE HOW MANY LAPS? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE AT SAR-KO? EIGHT LANES. EIGHT? YEAH. IS THAT WHERE WE'LL HAVE ANY TOURNAMENTS OR.

YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN HOLDING OUR ALL OF OUR MEETS, DIVE MEETS AND SWIM MEETS.

THEY'VE GONE TREMENDOUSLY WELL SO FAR THIS YEAR.

IN FACT, WE JUST I THINK WE JUST HAD OUR LAST SWIM MEET LATE LAST WEEK, YESTERDAY.

SO YEAH, WE'RE ON THE TAIL END OF REC SWIM SEASON AND IT'S GONE REALLY WELL.

FEEDBACK HAS BEEN GREAT. SO AND IF YOU REMEMBER WE DID WORK WITH THE JOHNSON COUNTY BLAZERS, ONE OF OUR PRIMARY USERS, AND OF COURSE OUR SWIM AND DIVE COACH TO KIND OF MAXIMIZE THAT POOL AS OUR SWIM LOCATION.

SO AND NOT TO GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF THE PROCESS BUT HOW MANY DO YOU PICTURE HERE.

YEAH, I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT YET.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD THINK WOULD BE VERY MODEST.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO FLAT ROCK, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE HEARING, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, HEY, WE NEED TO HAVE SWIM MEETS HERE.

I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS PEOPLE WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATER, WALK AND SWIM LAPS.

THAT CAN MEAN A LOT OF THINGS.

SO FLAT ROCK, IT'S NOT EVEN 25 YARD.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHORTER POOL WHERE BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WANTED TO, TO GET THAT LAP SWIMMING IN OR WATER WALKING.

SO I'M GUESSING.

YEAH, IF I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE WE END UP JUST FROM A COST STANDPOINT AND TO MAXIMIZE THAT POOL, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHERE WE LAND.

YEAH. GOOD. THANK YOU.

YEAH I WOULD ADD TO THAT ANOTHER BIG FEATURE OF THE AD ASTRA POOL THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY IN LOVE WITH IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH OPEN WATER SPACE.

SO 50 METER LAP POOL IS GREAT FOR COMPETITIVE SWIMMERS PRACTICE AND COMPETITION, BUT THE OPEN WATER PEOPLE LOVE TO PLAY IN THAT OPEN WATER.

SO PROGRAMING WAS KIND OF THE THIRD BOARD AS WE WENT THROUGH THE PROGRESSION THAT WENT ACROSS THE SPACE HERE.

CLEARLY AT THE TOP WAS OPEN SWIM TIME.

PEOPLE JUST REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS TIME.

THAT AND SPACE FOR THAT OPEN SWIM.

MOVIE NIGHT AT THE POOL WAS A PROGRAM THAT WE THREW OUT THERE WITH SOME GREAT RESPONSES, ALONG WITH SWIM LESSONS, RECREATIONAL LAP SWIMMING, AND WATER AEROBICS.

ADULT SWIM TIME AND BIRTHDAY PARTY RENTALS AGAIN IN THE OPEN HOUSE.

THE 49 ATTENDEES THAT WE HAD HERE, THOSE WERE KIND OF AT THE BOTTOM DESIGN THEME WAS AN INTERESTING IDEA AS WE WERE PUTTING TOGETHER THE SURVEY AND STARTING TO ASK OPINIONS. SO A DESIGN THEME IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES A LOT OF IMAGERY OF DIFFERENT THEMES AND SAYS, WHAT APPEALS TO YOU? SO ONE OF THOSE THEMES WAS COSMOS.

ANOTHER ONE WAS A BEACH THEME AND THE OTHER WAS A PRAIRIE THEME, AND WE SHOWED THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE ATTENDEES A SERIES OF IMAGES IN THOSE DIFFERENT THEMES AND SAID, WHICH ONE DO YOU THINK AD ASTRA SHOULD BE INSPIRED BY? THIS MAY BE COLORS, TEXTURES, PATTERNS, GRAPHICS, PLAY FEATURES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

COSMOS WAS THE CLEAR WINNER HERE AT THE OPEN HOUSE IN THOSE 49 ATTENDEES.

[INAUDIBLE] IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? [INAUDIBLE] TURN YOUR MIC ON.

YEAH. USE YOUR MIC, PLEASE.

OH THAT'S OKAY. TO THE STARS.

TO THE STARS INDEED.

SO AS I MENTIONED, ONLINE SURVEY NUMBER ONE, THIS ACTUALLY WAS OPEN AND LAUNCHED ABOUT A WEEK BEFORE THE PUBLIC MEETING, AND IT STAYED OPEN FOR A WEEK AFTER THE PUBLIC MEETING.

IT WAS THROUGH SURVEYMONKEY.

WE DIRECTED ALL OF THE FOLKS TO THE CITY OF LENEXA WEBSITE FOR THE AD ASTRA POOL RECONSTRUCTION, WHERE THE LINK TO THE SURVEY WAS WAS PLACED.

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SO THAT REALLY, I THINK SPEAKS HIGHLY TO THE LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT AND INTEREST AND PASSION PEOPLE HAVE FOR THIS POOL.

DEMOGRAPHICS, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE THERE, BUT IT WAS PRIMARILY AGE GROUPS FROM 30 TO 50 AND HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAD FOUR OR MORE PEOPLE.

SO A LOT OF FAMILIES RESPONDED TO THIS.

GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS SERIES OF SLIDES HERE AGAIN, SAME THING, SAME IMAGERY THAT WERE SHOWN HERE IN THE PUBLIC MEETING.

IN PERSON ON POOL TYPES AGAIN, ZERO ENTRY ZERO ENTRY POOL OR BEACH ENTRY POOL WAS NUMBER ONE SOCIAL ACTIVITY POOL, AND THIS SPEAKS TO THINGS LIKE THE SUN SHELF.

LIKE THESE WERE SPORT RESORT INSPIRED AMENITIES, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND HANG OUT.

SOCIAL ACTIVITY POOLS.

NUMBER TWO, LAP POOL NUMBER THREE, FOLLOWED BY DEEP WATER CURRENT CHANNEL AND A SPLASH PAD ON THE AMENITIES SIDE.

AGAIN, LARGE SHADE STRUCTURE OR TO SHADE ON THE DECK IN GENERAL.

PEOPLE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS REGARDING THAT IN THE OPEN COMMENT FIELDS AS WELL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT PLENTY OF SHADE WAS PROVIDED UNDERWATER BENCHES FOR SOCIALIZING AND HANGING OUT IN IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE POOL, DIVING BOARDS, SUN SHELF, AND A WATER CROSSING ACTIVITY WERE THE TOP FIVE PRIORITIES UNDER AMENITIES.

TODDLER SLIDES AND A DECORATIVE WATERFALL WERE NEAR THE BOTTOM.

YOU SHOULD BE SEEING DESIGN, THEME AND PROGRAMMING NOW.

SO THE BEACH ROSE TO THE TOP ON THIS.

AGAIN, THIS WAS AN ONLINE SURVEY, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE MADE THE CONNECTION NECESSARILY AS THEY WERE TAKING THE SURVEY BETWEEN AD ASTRA AND CHRISTINA MCAULIFFE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE IMPORTANCE AND SIGNIFICANCE THERE, HOWEVER, BEACH WAS AT THE TOP.

ON PROGRAMING WE SAW OPEN SWIM TIME AGAIN, SWIM LESSONS, A LOT OF SIMILAR THEMES THAT WE SAW HERE IN PERSON.

ADULT SWIM TIME DID SHOW UP IN THE TOP FIVE ON PROGRAMS ALONG WITH RECREATIONAL LAP SWIMMING.

SO NEXT STEPS, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE NOW LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY WHAT SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.

WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY CONCEPTS, SO WE PLAN TO WORK THROUGH 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT CONCEPTS THAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO STAFF NEXT WEEK.

OUR NEXT SURVEY WILL OPEN ON JULY 17TH AND RUN THROUGH THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT IS WHEN WE PLAN TO HAVE THE NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING.

SO WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC WILL BE A SERIES OF CONCEPTS THAT RESPOND TO THEIR PRIORITIES, BUT ARE ALSO WITHIN THAT $8 MILLION BUDGET.

WE DON'T INTEND TO SHOW ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET.

SO ANY CONCEPT MIGHT SAY, HERE'S THE TWO HIGHEST PRIORITY POOLS, AND HERE'S A SERIES OF OPTIONS.

AS YOU PLUG ONE OPTION INTO IT, ONE POOL MIGHT BECOME SMALLER, ANOTHER ONE MIGHT BECOME LARGER, BUT WE LIKE TO SHOW THAT WHOLE RANGE OF DIFFERENT POOL TYPES, AMENITIES AND PROGRAMS THAT COULD OCCUR WITHIN THAT AND GRAPHICS THAT WILL SUPPORT ALL OF THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M THROUGH MY LAST SLIDE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? BILL. I'M SORRY. CRAIG.

WHAT'S YOUR OPEN HOUSE THREE LIKELY TO PRESENT, THEN TO THE COMMUNITY? OPEN HOUSE THREE, WE WOULD HAVE A PREFERRED DIRECTION.

SO WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING OUT OF THE NEXT OPEN HOUSE IS NOT THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY THIS CONCEPT NUMBER THREE OF 6 OR 5 OR WHATEVER IS THE ONE THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE IMAGINE WE'RE GOING TO GET FEEDBACK ON A NUMBER OF CONCEPTS.

A COUPLE OF THEM MIGHT RISE TO THE TOP.

WE WILL SYNTHESIZE THAT AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC AT THE THIRD MEETING AND THE THIRD SURVEY WITH KIND OF A PREFERRED DIRECTION.

STAFF WILL HAVE INPUT ON THAT.

WE'LL COME BACK TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AND PRESENT A PREFERRED DIRECTION.

YOU THINK WE STILL HAVE A FULL DESIGN.

DO YOU PREFER ONE OR A AND B, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO AN A? WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AN A.

WE MAY STILL COME BACK WITH TWO CONCEPTS OF THAT IF NEED BE, BUT IDEALLY IT MIGHT BE ONE CONCEPT, MAYBE WITH A COUPLE OF FEATURES.

YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD SAY IF BUDGET ALLOWS, WOULD YOU PREFER TO HAVE A LONGER LAZY RIVER IN THIS CONCEPT OR A BIGGER ZERO DEPTH ENTRY? I SHOULDN'T SAY LAZY RIVER, I SHOULD SAY CURRENT CHANNEL.

WELL, YOU GUYS ARE THE DESIGNERS AND I TRUST YOU, BUT I DO RECALL, I THINK, TODD, THAT WE HAD TWO CONCEPTS FOR THE JUSTICE CENTER THAT WE KIND OF EXPLORED AT ONE POINT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WAS IN THE IN THE WHOLE RANGE OF PLANNING, BUT YEAH, KIND OF YEAH. YEAH.

WE HOPE TO GET THERE AS A TEAM.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT DESIGNERS.

STAFF HAS ALREADY SEEN SOME THINGS AND SOME GREAT IDEAS, BUT I THINK THE MAIN THING TO TAKE AWAY IS WE DON'T WANT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC ANYTHING WE CAN'T AFFORD.

NOW, IF WE CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK THAT JUST KEEPS PUSHING THE ENVELOPE, WE'LL BRING THAT FEEDBACK BACK TO YOU, BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS WE DON'T WANT TO WE WANT TO MEET EXPECTATIONS INSIDE THE FENCE, THAT THE POOL IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET, AND PEOPLE CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

SO FEEDBACK'S BEEN GREAT.

THE SURVEY OPEN HOUSE.

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IT'S JUST GOING TO BE PRIORITIES NOW, AND I'M PLAYING THE ROLE OF BAD GUY ON THE TEAM.

UNFORTUNATELY, LOGAN GETS TO BE THE FUN GUY, BUT I'M GOING TO ALWAYS BRING IT BACK TO THE APPROVED CIP NUMBER AND WHAT WE'VE GOT MOVING FORWARD.

SO BUT WE'VE GOT A GREAT CONTRACTOR ON BOARD WITH PROSSER WILBERT.

HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE THEM, BUT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS PROJECT TYPE, WHICH IS HUGE IF YOU GET SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND POOLS, BUT WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY THAT'S REALLY GOOD AND UNDERSTANDS THAT.

SO PRE-CONSTRUCTION WHERE WE DO OUR ESTIMATING THEY'RE ALREADY AT THE TABLE LOOKING AT THESE DESIGNS.

SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD MATCH, AND THAT'S WHY WE DO SEE AT RISK THAT DELIVERY TYPE FOR THESE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IS THAT WE DON'T GO OFF AND DESIGN FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND KIND OF LIVE IN LA LA LAND COME BACK AND THEN DISAPPOINT EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE VALUE ENGINEERED EVERYTHING OUT.

SO I THINK THE PROCESS IS REALLY GOING TO WORK WELL THIS TIME.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE'LL SEE YOU SOON. THANK YOU ALL.

THIS ENDS THE RECORDED PORTION OF THE MEETING.

HOPEFULLY IT STAYED RECORDING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.