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[CALL TO ORDER]

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WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

IF YOU'D ALL PLEASE RISE AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

JENNIFER, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE? THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

[APPROVE MINUTES]

WE HAVE THE MARCH 21ST MEETING MINUTES FOR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.

SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY DAN, SECOND BY COURTNEY.

ALL IN FAVOR? MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

ANY MODIFICATIONS? NONE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE SEVERAL PROCLAMATIONS THIS EVENING.

[PROCLAMATIONS]

I'M GOING TO DO THE FIRST AND LAST ONE.

AND I'VE PASSED OFF ONE TO JULIE AND JOE ALONG THE WAY.

AND WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN.

THE FIRST ONE IS PROCLAIMING THE WEEK OF APRIL 5TH OR ACTUALLY THE PERIOD OF APRIL 5TH THROUGH APRIL 16TH AS SEVEN DAYS WEEK IN THE CITY OF LENEXA.

I'M GOING TO COME DOWN FRONT TO DO THAT.

AND JOHN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ME AT THE PODIUM, YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY.

PERFECT. WE'LL READ THIS HERE AND THEN WE'LL DO A QUICK PICTURE AND YOU CAN MAKE COMMENTS AS APPROPRIATE.

WHEREAS SEVEN DAYS MAKE A RIPPLE CHANGE THE WORLD OVERCOMES HATE BY PROMOTING KINDNESS AND UNDERSTANDING THROUGH EDUCATION AND DIALOG.

AND WHEREAS, SEVEN DAYS PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES AND COURAGE IN ALL PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE AND PRACTICE KINDNESS.

AND WHEREAS, SEVEN DAYS 2023 BRINGS ALL PEOPLE TOGETHER TO OVERCOME HATE WITH ACTS OF KINDNESS, WITH THEME, DAYS OF LOVE, DISCOVER OTHERS [INAUDIBLE] YOU GO AND ONWARD, BEGINNING WITH A KICKOFF BREAKFAST ON APRIL 5TH AND CONCLUDING WITH ITS ANNUAL KINDNESS WALK ON APRIL 16TH.

AND WHEREAS, THE MEMORIES OF THREE WONDERFUL AND UNIQUE PEOPLE REAT UNDERWOOD, DR.

WILLIAM CORPORON AND TERRI LAMANNO WILL BE HONORED THROUGH KINDNESS AND UNDERSTANDING.

AND WHEREAS, DURING THE SEVEN DAYS 2023 EVENTS, THE CITY OF LENEXA ENCOURAGES ITS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO COME TOGETHER TO ACT MORE KINDLY AND BE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF DIFFERENCES, THEREBY MAKING THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE ONE RIPPLE AT A TIME.

NOW, THEREFORE, MICHAEL BOEHM, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LENEXA HERE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE PERIOD FROM APRIL 5TH THROUGH APRIL 16TH, 2023 IN THE CITY OF LENEXA, KANSAS, TO BE SEVEN DAYS WEEK.

JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR.

MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, LENEXA.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE DONE THIS AND THE CITY'S BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROCESS.

IT SEEMS SO SIMPLE, RIGHT? KINDNESS LIKE, WELL, GOSH, WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT EVERY DAY.

BUT SOMEHOW AT THE GROCERY STORE WHEN WE'RE DRIVING, IT DOESN'T SEEM AS MUCH AS OBVIOUS WHEN WE'RE GETTING PUSHED FOR TIME AND WE GOT TO GET OVER TO THE RIGHT.

AND THEN SOMEHOW KINDNESS SEEMS TO TAKE A BACK SEAT, IF YOU WILL.

SO BUT WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT, THE EVENTS, APRIL 5TH, 16TH, SINCE TODAY'S APRIL 4TH, THAT MEANS TOMORROW WE START WITH A BREAKFAST.

AND SO I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOUR PLANS FOR TOMORROW TO JOIN A BREAKFAST.

BUT IF YOU DO, YOU CAN JOIN 500 OTHERS THAT ARE GOING TO JOIN US FOR OUR BREAKFAST EVENT TO START IT OFF.

AND THEN THE ENDING EVENT IS A WALK THAT WE'VE DONE FOR MANY YEARS.

BECAUSE OF THE DRAFT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOWNTOWN.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING IT [INAUDIBLE], BUT YOU CAN STILL REGISTER AT SEVEN DAYS.ORG AND YOU CAN GET ONE OF THESE COOL T SHIRTS.

SO YOU WANT TO BE LIKE THAT, I'M SURE, SO YOU CAN JOIN ON THAT.

AND IT'S A WALK THAT YOU CAN DO WITH YOUR FAMILY.

WE HAVE LOTS OF KIDS THAT JOIN US ALONG WITH ADULTS.

WE'LL HAVE A BAND AND IT'S GOING TO BE OUTDOOR.

AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, HOPEFULLY APRIL 16TH WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL DAY TO ENJOY AND BE WITH FAMILY AND WALK AND JUST AGAIN, PRACTICE THE KINDNESS, THE SIMPLE THINGS.

BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR GUYS SUPPORT [APPLAUSE].

JULIE, COME ON DOWN.

HELLO, SCOTT.

WHEREAS THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1968, OF WHICH TITLE EIGHT DECLARED THAT THE LAW OF THE LAND WOULD NOW GUARANTEE THE RIGHTS OF EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF LENEXA IS COMMITTED TO THE MISSION AND INTENT OF CONGRESS TO PROVIDE FAIR AND EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL, AND TODAY MANY REALTY COMPANIES AND

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ASSOCIATIONS SUPPORT FAIR AND HOUSING, FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

AND THESE ARE TONGUE TWISTERS.

WHEREAS THE FAIR HOUSING GROUPS AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT HAVE OVER THE YEARS RECEIVED THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS OF ILLEGAL OF ALLEGED ILLEGAL HOUSING DISCRIMINATION AND FOUND THAT TOO MANY HAVE PROVED UPON INVESTIGATION TO BE VIOLATORS OF THE FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

AND WHEREAS, EQUAL HOUSING OPPORTUNITY IS A CONDITION OF LIFE IN OUR CITY THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED.

NOW, THEREFORE, I MICHAEL BOEHM, MAYOR OF LENEXA [INAUDIBLE] MAYOR OF LENEXA, KANSAS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023 IN THE CITY OF LENEXA TO BE FAIR HOUSING MONTH.

YOU'RE WELCOME [APPLAUSE].

JOE KARLIN. JOE KARLIN AND DID STAY SAFE.

WE'LL SEE IF HE FOLLOWS DIRECTIONS BETTER THAN JULIE DID.

GOOD EVENING. WHEREAS EACH YEAR, THE NATION'S UNDERGROUND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS JEOPARDIZED BY UNINTENTIONAL DAMAGE BY THOSE WHO FAIL TO CALL 811 TO HAVE UNDERGROUND LINES LOCATED PRIOR TO DIGGING.

UNDESIRED CONSEQUENCES SUCH AS SERVICE INTERRUPTION, DAMAGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT AND PERSONAL INJURY AND EVEN DEATH ARE THE POTENTIAL RESULTS.

AND WHEREAS, THE COMMON GROUND ALLIANCE AND ITS 800 MEMBERS PROMOTE THE NATIONAL CALL BEFORE YOU DIG NUMBER 811 IN AN EFFORT TO REDUCE THESE DAMAGES.

DESIGNATED BY THE FCC IN 2005, 811 PROVIDES POTENTIAL EXCAVATORS AND HOMEOWNERS A SIMPLE NUMBER TO REACH THEIR LOCAL ONE CALL CENTER TO REQUEST UTILITY LINE LOCATIONS AT THE INTENDED DIG SITE.

AND WHEREAS, THROUGH EDUCATION OF SAFE DIGGING PRACTICES, EXCAVATORS AND HOMEOWNERS CAN SAVE TIME AND MONEY BY KEEPING OUR NATION SAFE AND CONNECTED BY MAKING A SIMPLE CALL TO 811 IN ADVANCE OF ANY DIGGING PROJECT.

WAITING THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF TIME RESPECTING THE MARKED LINES BY MAINTAINING VISUAL DEFINITION THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE EXCAVATION AND FINALLY DIGGING WITH CARE AROUND THE MARKS. AND WHEREAS, ALL PARTIES AGREE THAT SAFE DIGGING IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO KNOW WHAT'S BELOW, CALL 811 BEFORE YOU DIG NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE CITY OF LENEXA, KANSAS, DO HEREBY DECLARE PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023 TO BE NATIONAL SAFE DIGGING MONTH AND ENCOURAGE EXCAVATORS AND HOMEOWNERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ALWAYS CALL 811 BEFORE DIGGING SAFE DIGGING IS NO ACCIDENT [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK. AND I'M GOING TO USE.

OKAY, OUR FINAL ONE IS OUR VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION MONTH.

[RECOGNITION]

WHEREAS THROUGHOUT LENEXA HISTORY, CITIZENS HAVE SELFLESSLY VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME, TALENT, ENERGY, IMPROVING OUR COMMUNITY, AND MAKING OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. AND WHEREAS, VOLUNTEERISM STRENGTHENS COMMUNITIES AND ENHANCES THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS, VOLUNTEERING CHANGES THE LIVES OF VOLUNTEERS IN A POSITIVE WAY BY INCREASING SELF CONFIDENCE AND SELF ESTEEM, OFFERING A CHANCE TO MAKE NEW FRIENDS AND PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN NEW SKILLS AND ABILITIES.

AND WHEREAS, VOLUNTEERISM IS PROVEN TO HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE BY INCREASING EMPLOYEE MORALE, LOYALTY AND TEAMWORK AND BUILDING GOODWILL TOWARD THE COMPANY.

AND WHEREAS, NONPROFITS, CHARITIES, COMMUNITY AND FAITH BASED GROUPS, SCHOOLS AND NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAMS IN THE CITY OF LENEXA HAVE JOINED TOGETHER WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN CELEBRATION AND PRAISE OF VOLUNTEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN TIMELESSLY AND SELFISHLY TO SERVICE OF OTHERS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, MICHAEL BOEHM, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LENEXA, HEREBY PROCLAIM MONTH OF THE MONTH OF APRIL 2023, IN THE CITY OF LENEXA TO BE THE VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION MONTH.

AND NOW WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE A TRADITION THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE MID 1970S, AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW WE'VE MISSED DIANE ALL OF THESE YEARS. WE USED TO JUST KIND OF LOAD UP A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND IF YOU GO BACK AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE PLAQUES ARE ANYMORE, IN THE OLD CITY HALL, THEY WERE ON THE WALL IN THE HALLWAY.

IN SOME YEARS WE HAD TEN AND 20 PEOPLE.

AND OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, I THINK WE FINALLY GOT CAUGHT UP IN SOME RESPECTS THAT WE HAVE 2 OR 3 EACH YEAR RATHER THAN MORE.

AND AND WE DID SOME CHANGE, SOME CRITERIA TO REQUIRE VOLUNTEERISM IN MORE THAN ONE ACTIVITY AND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND HAVE SOME CONNECTION TO THE CITY OF LENEXA, WHETHER THE VOLUNTEER LIVED IN LENEXA OR WORKED IN LENEXA OR VOLUNTEERED ON PROJECTS IN LENEXA.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK DIANE CONWAY TO JOIN ME RIGHT NOW.

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AND I'M NOT SURE WHO WROTE THE NOMINATION, BUT THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB [INAUDIBLE] TEAM.

AND I'M GOING TO READ SOME OF THIS AND MAYBE ALL OF IT.

I'LL JUST SEE HOW WE'RE DOING ALONG THE WAY.

BUT THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PART IS IT IS A WIDE VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES.

AND I LOOKED AROUND FOR THE OLDEST ONE STARTING IN 1962, SO YOU MUST HAVE BEEN A BROWNIE SECOND GRADER.

YOU WERE A BROWNIE PROBABLY THEN A LEADER AT THAT TIME.

SO I'M GUESSING THAT AND ITS CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT TO THE PRESENT.

SO I'M GOING TO LIST OUT ALL OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

AND IF THERE'S NOT A BETTER EXAMPLE OF WHAT VOLUNTEERISM MEANS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL LENEXA THIS IS THIS IS CERTAINLY IT.

DURING HER CAREER AS A VOLUNTEER, SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THE SHANAHOE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PTA, A MEMBER FROM 1989 THROUGH 2006 WITH THREE CHILDREN, SERVED AS THE CHAIR OF THE ANNUAL ART FAIR, INTERNATIONAL CULTURAL AFFAIRS AND TWO TERMS AS PRESIDENT AND PUT ON A BICYCLE SAFETY RODEO, PUT ON BICYCLE SAFETY RODEOS PLURAL AT THE SCHOOL ANNUALLY WITH EMPLOYER ASSISTANCE.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND, AS I READ THROUGH THIS, IT'S NOT JUST A VOLUNTEER PARTICIPANT.

SHE TOOK HOLD AND WAS PRESIDENT AND CHAIR AND LEADER AND ORGANIZER AND PROBABLY DISHWASHER AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS REQUIRED ALONG THE WAY.

AND WHAT'S MOST IMPRESSIVE, A LOT OF FOLKS WE RECOGNIZE OVER THE YEARS ARE MOMS OR DADS, AND THEY'RE INVOLVED WHEN THEIR KIDS ARE THERE.

AND THE VOLUNTEERISM TENDS TO BE FOR A REAL SEGMENT, WHICH I CALL PLAYING MOM AND DAD, AS OPPOSED TO BEING A TRUE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS.

AND DIANE'S TENURE AND PARTICIPATION IS WELL BEYOND JUST RAISING CHILDREN.

AND WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THAT TONIGHT AS WELL.

AS THE KIDS GOT OLDER, THOUGH, TRAIL RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND SHAWNEE MISSION NORTHWEST HIGH SCHOOL, A MEMBER OF THE PTA FROM 1996 TO 2012, PRESENTED SEMINARS FOR TEENS ON DEFENSIVE DRIVING [INAUDIBLE] SHE WAS A STATE FARM AUTO CLAIMS REPRESENTATIVE AND DESIGNED TEEN SAFE DRIVING PROGRAMS FOR THE COMPANY FOR THE STATE OF KANSAS IN 1999.

[INAUDIBLE] WOODS NEIGHBORHOOD HOMES ASSOCIATION SINCE 1987, SERVED ON OR AS CHAIR OF SOCIAL EVENTS COMMITTEE FROM 89 TO 2000 AWARD 2001 AND WAS THE BOARD SECRETARY I'M SORRY, 21.

I STOLE 20 YEARS FROM YOU THERE.

AND BOARD SECRETARY FROM 2014 TO 2016.

AND PEOPLE THINK WE HAVE A CHALLENGING JOB.

BUT TRUST ME, HOMES ASSOCIATION BOARDS ARE A WHOLE LOT MORE DIFFICULT THAN COUNCIL MEETINGS.

KNOX PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, OVERLAND PARK, MEMBERS SINCE 86.

AND I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THESE CHILDREN'S CHOIR DIRECTOR, YOUTH CHOIR SPONSOR, YOUTH MISSION SPONSOR FOR A TRIP TO FLORIDA.

[INAUDIBLE] DEACON MEMBER GOSH.

SESSION MEMBER GOVERNING BODY OF THE CHURCH FOR SIX YEARS.

TWO YEARS AND OUTREACH TEAM.

CHANCEL [INAUDIBLE] GUILD GUILD GUILD.

I'M SORRY I READ THAT WRONG.

VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL.

CHILDREN'S MUSICAL SETS AND DECORATING 87 TO 93.

AND THEN AGAIN 98 TO 2002 TO NOW 2023.

IT WAS A MISSION PARTNERSHIP TEAM MEMBER SCOUTING.

WE NOTED EARLIER GIRL SCOUTS IN 1962 TO 73, FORMING MY LOVE FOR SCOUTING AND THEIR VALUES.

THE LEADER OF GIRL SCOUT TROOP 19 I'M SORRY, 1398 FROM 89 TO 2001, A CUB SCOUT DEN LEADER, TWO SONS.

95 TO 2005.

BOY SCOUT TROOP 185 COMMITTEE MEMBER OR TREASURER FOR SEVEN YEARS.

LEADER OF GIRL SCOUT TROOP OR 1494 LENEXA FROM AUGUST 23RD THROUGH TODAY AND CONTINUING THE VOLUNTEER AT DAY CAMPS AND CAMPOUTS FOR BROWNIE TROOP 2673 LAWRENCE, KANSAS OR GRANDDAUGHTER'S NAME IS LAWRENCE.

LAWRENCE, KANSAS. LAWRENCE, KANSAS.

WELCOME JAYHAWKS TO LENEXA, I HOPE.

LET'S SEE.

I'M NOT SURE. [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW THAT ONE.

CATHOLIC WORKER DOWNTOWN [INAUDIBLE] BEEN DOING THAT COOKING AND SERVING MEALS FOR UP TO 60 PEOPLE 2 TO 3 TIMES A YEAR FROM 2008 TO THE PRESENT.

AND THEN SINGLE MOM [INAUDIBLE] A LENEXA OVERLAND PARK BASED CLUB ORGANIZATION AND BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

MIC] I'VE RUN OUT OF THINGS TO SAY.

MY GUESS IS IF WE ASK FOR TESTIMONIALS, ALL OF YOU WOULD GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING NICE ABOUT DIANE.

BUT INSTEAD OF THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO MAKE A FEW REMARKS AND WE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION HERE AS WELL.

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WOW, THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I'M VERY HONORED THAT ROCHELLE AND BECKY NOMINATED ME.

I WAS VERY FLOORED WHEN I RECEIVED THE PHONE CALL FROM JENNIFER.

AND I'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED FOR ALL THE GROUPS THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH.

I'VE NEVER THOUGHT OF IT AS MORE THAN JUST BEING INVOLVED IN THINGS THAT I LOVED AND HAD A PASSION FOR AND FOR PEOPLE THAT MEANT A LOT TO ME, AND I STILL ENJOY IT. I'M A LITTLE PICKIER HOW MANY THINGS I DO NOW AS I'VE RETIRED, BUT THE THINGS I STILL DO, I HAVE A GREAT PASSION FOR, AND SCOUTING IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES.

SO AS MY FOUR GIRLS AND I HAVE A FIFTH ONE ARE GRADUATING FROM NORTHWEST THIS YEAR, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS A BROWNIE IN LAWRENCE AND LAWRENCE AND KANSAS CITY ARE THE SAME COUNCIL.

SO I'M REGISTERED THERE AS WELL AND CAN GO CAMPING A YEAR IN A WEEK WITH HER.

BUT I LOVE DOING THINGS.

I ENJOY IT. AND THE PEOPLE RELATIONSHIPS HAVE JUST BEEN WONDERFUL AND I'VE JUST BEEN VERY BLESSED.

SO I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING TONIGHT [APPLAUSE].

NO TAKE HER OUT TO DINNER AND WE'LL JOIN YOU LATER.

[CONSENT AGENDA ]

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA THIS EVENING, WHICH ARE ITEMS ONE THROUGH TWO OR OTHERWISE, ONE AND TWO.

ALL MATTERS LISTED WITHIN THE CONSENT AGENDA HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO EACH MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY FOR REVIEW ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINE AND WILL [INAUDIBLE] ON BY ONE MOTION WITH NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION.

IF A MEMBER OF THE GOVERNING BODY OR THE AUDIENCE DESIRES SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON ITEM, THAT ITEM MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND PLACED ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

AGENDA ITEMS ONE AND TWO.

SECOND BY JULIE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED. CONSENT AGENDA IS APPROVED UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

[3. Resolution approving the City of Lenexa, Kansas Governing Body Rules of Procedure]

ITEM NUMBER THREE AS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CITY OF LENEXA, KANSAS GOVERNING BODY RULES OF PROCEDURE.

SEAN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SEAN MCLAUGHLIN, CITY ATTORNEY.

AND TONIGHT I HAVE FOR YOU THE GOVERNING BODY RULES OF PROCEDURE UPDATE AS YOU AS THE COUNCIL RECALL, WE DISCUSSED THIS AT RETREAT.

I MADE A FEW CHANGES SINCE THEN WHICH WERE CONTAINED IN THE PACKET AS WELL AS THE PROCEDURES WHICH WERE CONTAINED IN IT.

I DO APOLOGIZE IF YOU READ THE PACKET THAT IS 12 A.M., NOT 12 P.M..

WE WILL NOT GO, WHAT, 13, 14, 15 HOURS WITHOUT A VOTE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT ERROR IN THE PACKET MEMO.

IT IS CORRECT IN THE PROCEDURES, BUT JUST TO BRIEFLY REITERATE WHAT WE WHAT WE TALKED TO AS A GROUP AT THE COUNCIL RETREAT, YOU GUYS, THE GOVERNING BODY ADOPTS THEIR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THEY USE IT TO EFFICIENTLY CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESS.

THE CURRENT PROCEDURES WERE ADOPTED IN 1999.

THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE AND I REALLY WILL CALL THEM BRIEF AMENDMENTS SINCE THAT TIME.

NOTHING OVERLY SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE, BUT NOTHING OVERLY CHANGING HOW YOU GUYS CONDUCT YOUR BUSINESSES.

AND JUST A REMINDER, AGAIN, IT'S NOT ROBERT'S RULES.

THESE ARE YOUR OWN RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THE GOAL OF THE UPDATES NOT TO OVERHAUL, BUT A REORGANIZATION, REDUCE REDUNDANCIES, CLARIFY CURRENT PRACTICES, SPECIFICALLY THOSE INCLUDED ELECTRONICS. OBVIOUSLY, SINCE 1999, A LOT OF ELECTRONICS HAS CHANGED.

ALSO RECENTLY VIDEO RECORDING HAS BEEN INTRODUCED.

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SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT WITHIN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AS WELL AS DURING THAT TIME A LOT OF BECAUSE OF ELECTRONICS, BUT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME PRACTICES, A PACKET AGENDA, DISTRIBUTIONS HAVE KIND OF CHANGED UP AND WEREN'T QUITE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE PROCEDURES SET THEM FORTH.

THE OTHER ONES, THE LENGTH OF THE MEETING IS ALREADY KIND OF ADDRESSED.

IT WILL NOW GO AN EXTRA HOUR WITHOUT A VOTE.

YOU CAN GO BEYOND, BUT YOU WILL NOW VOTE AT MIDNIGHT INSTEAD OF 11 P.M., WHICH IS WHAT IT CURRENTLY STATES.

AND FINALLY, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE WHAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THE MAYOR TO SUSPEND THE RULES UNILATERALLY.

IF THERE ARE EMERGENCY DECLARATIONS BY A LOCAL OR NATIONAL BODY.

AND WITH AT THE TIME WHEN WE DID IT, WE HAD TO VOTE ON IT AND WE HAD TO ACTUALLY GATHER YOU IN PERSON TO DO SO.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRUDENT MATTER THAT WE LIVED THROUGH.

SO WITHOUT THAT, I WILL BE OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

SO TO PASS IT YOU WOULD NEED A THREE FOURTHS MAJORITY OF THE GOVERNING BODY OR SEVEN.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SEAN. QUESTIONS, TOM? YEAH. I'M GLAD YOU.

I READ THE RULES FIRST, AND THEN I CAME BACK AND SAW YOUR REVIEW, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL.

YOUR FOUR BULLET POINTS.

MY QUESTION IS MORE ABOUT ON THE ELECTRONIC SIDE.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE GOT OUR SCREEN HERE OF THE AGENDA AND THE ITEM.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE'S THE PRESENTER THAT WE CAN SWITCH OVER TO SEE THAT DOCUMENT TOO.

BUT SOMETIMES I LIKE TO LOOK ON MY IPAD AT GOOGLE EARTH OF THE SITE, AND SOMETIMES I FLIP ON OVER TO JOHNSON COUNTY [INAUDIBLE] MAP BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THE OWNERSHIP OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR SEWERS OR WHATEVER.

SO IS THAT USE OF THAT ELECTRONICS FOR THAT SITE RESEARCH? IS THAT NOW SORT OF NOT TO BE DONE? NO. IF YOUR GUYS ARE ACTUALLY NOT COMPLETELY AWARE OF EVERYTHING, YOU'D BE ABLE TO LOOK UP OUT THERE.

BUT I SHOULD ASSUME WITH IPADS, YOU COULD LOOK AT THAT, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO.

WHAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH ELECTRONICS IS YOUR COMMUNICATION AMONGST YOURSELVES OR COMMUNICATION TO MAYBE AN APPLICANT OR SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO'S GOT SOMETHING. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN OPEN MEETING AND A TRANSPARENT MEETING, AND WE WOULD NOT WANT COLLUSION BETWEEN YOURSELVES AND COMMUNICATIONS, AND THAT'S WHAT THE PROCEDURES ARE CONCERNED WITH.

I WOULD BE CONCERNED WITH NOT NECESSARILY THE INFORMATION THAT YOU YOURSELF ARE LOOKING AT UP THERE.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU HAVE PHONES UP THERE, YOU GET TEXTS, YOU GET OTHER TYPES OF INFORMATION.

BUT WE ALL WANT TO BE ON AN EQUAL PLAYING FIELD.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE ELECTRONIC USE OF ELECTRONICS IS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO.

IN FACT, FRANKLY, AS IT READS TODAY, IT'S PROBABLY MORE CONFINING THAN WHAT WE HAVE MADE IT TO ADDRESS THE REALITY OF EVERYONE HAVING AN IPHONE OR FRANKLY, AN IPAD AND A COMPUTER AND EVERY OTHER DEVICE THAT WE ALL HAVE IN FRONT OF US AT THESE MEETINGS.

THANK YOU. I THINK THE IMPORTANT PART IS TWO WAY COMMUNICATION, WHETHER IT'S AMONG TO HEAR OR TO HEAR IN THE AUDIENCE OR OUT IN THE REAL WORLD, RESEARCH PROBABLY IS NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL. BUT WHEN YOU START DIALOGS AND GETTING FACTS THAT ISN'T AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US AND FRANKLY, YOUR RESEARCH ON [IANUDIBLE] WITH YOUR SKILL CAP PROBABLY ALLOWS YOU TO PUT INFORMATION IN THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SEE OTHERWISE.

SO I SEE IT AS A BENEFIT.

IT'S REALLY A VERSION OF ADDRESSING EX PARTE POTENTIAL EX PARTE COMMUNICATION THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING WITH YOUR DEVICES.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WE HAVE THE CHOICE TO TABLE IT TO ANOTHER OR CONTINUE IT TO ANOTHER MEETING AND VOTE.

LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE LOTS OF NODDING HERE, SO PROBABLY HAVE THE REQUIRED THREE FOURTHS TO GO AHEAD AND PASS IT TONIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE GOVERNING BODY RULES OF PROCEDURES.

MOTION BY DAN SECOND BY MELANIE.

WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE RECORD TONIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THANKS FOR YOUR GOOD WORK.

I'M GOING TO PAUSE FOR A MINUTE FOR STUDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE.

I DID GET A HEADS UP THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME LEADERSHIP LENEXA VOTES HERE TONIGHT OR STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS ANYONE ATTENDING THAT FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES OR. YES, SIR.

I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, LET'S SEE, ARE YOU STUDENTS? OKAY. WELL, I'LL HAVE THE LEADERSHIP FOLKS DO IT AS WELL.

THEN COME DOWN TO THE PODIUM.

GIVE ME YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, I PRESUME LEADERSHIP LENEXA.

YOU CAN JUST SAY LENEXA, KANSAS OR GOLIATH OR WHATEVER.

I DON'T NEED A PHYSICAL ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US WHY YOU'RE HERE.

AND THIS SHOULD BE A PRETTY EASY ONE IF YOU LEARNED ANYTHING TONIGHT.

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LET'S SEE HOW WELL I CAN FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.

I'M JOHN ROY WITH LEADERSHIP LENEXA.

I WORK AT WATER ONE IN OUR HR DEPARTMENT.

I RECALL SEVERAL OF YOU FROM A MONTH OR SO AGO WHEN WE MET TOGETHER SO.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT.

NOT THAT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE CITY BUSINESS, BUT I'M CHECKING A BOX HERE TONIGHT.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU DO.

THANK YOU. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I LIVE IN LEAWOOD, KANSAS.

LEAWOOD. OKAY. WELL, ON YOUR WAY HOME, GET THIS PIPE FIXED ON 87TH AND RENNER.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC.

I KNOW YOU'RE HR [INAUDIBLE].

YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW. YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE.

I GET A LOT OF CALLS THAT DON'T AREN'T MINE EITHER SO.

BUT NEXT.

AND STUDENTS IN THE BACK. YOU DON'T GET CREDIT IF YOU DON'T COME DOWN.

SO PLAN ON IT.

YES. YEP.

HEY, EVERYBODY. I'M MELISSA MONTOYA.

I'M ALSO WITH LEADERSHIP LENEXA AND I WORK FOR TURNER CONSTRUCTION.

LIKE JOHN WAS SAYING, THIS IS A REQUIREMENT, BUT I'M ALSO INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, TO GET PLUGGED IN WITH THE CITY BECAUSE MY FIRST PROJECT IN THE FIELD WITH TURNER WAS IN LENEXA.

SO I JUST WANT TO GET PLUGGED IN WITH THE CITY.

COOL. THANK YOU. AND WHERE DO YOU LIVE? AND I'M IN OP. OP.

OKAY, WELCOME. A LITTLE DIFFERENT ANGLE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP LENEXA FOLKS SO NAME CITY OF RESIDENTS WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL I PRESUME GOVERNMENT CLASS AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A COMMENT OR TWO.

YES I'M JACK GROBY AND I'M I GO TO SHAWNEE MISSION NORTHWEST.

SO I'M A SENIOR UP THERE AND THIS IS FOR A GOVERNMENT CIVIC PARTICIPATION, BUT I LIVE IN SHAWNEE.

SO WELCOME.

YOU SAID THAT LIKE YOU'RE APOLOGIZING [LAUGHTER].

IT'S AN OKAY PLACE.

NEXT. I'M TORY CREASON.

I ALSO GO TO SHAWNEE MISSION NORTHWEST AND I'M ALSO HERE FOR MY GOVERNMENT CLASS FOR CIVIC PARTICIPATION.

AND I ALSO LIVE IN SHAWNEE.

OKAY. WELL, WELCOME TO LENEXA, BOTH OF YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING OUT. I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE ARE ROUTINE REGULAR FACES IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO STAFF OR COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS ANYONE?

[COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS]

JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD, SEVERAL OF US WENT TO WASHINGTON, D.C.

LAST WEEK FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE AND PROBABLY HIGHLIGHT WAS HAVING THE FIRST LADY SPEAK TO THE GROUP AND A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, A LOT OF FOCUS ON HOUSING AND JUST THE ECONOMY, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT DURING THESE TIMES.

MET WITH CONGRESSWOMAN SHARICE DAVIDS AND SENATOR MURRAY MURRAY JERRY MORAN, AND TOLD THEM THAT WE NEED MONEY FOR J-TOWN AND LONE ELM AND KEEP IT COMING. SO KIND OF IN A SUMMARY.

[STAFF REPORTS]

STAFF REPORTS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KYLE. I'M THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANALYST HERE, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL IN THIS SETTING.

SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.

LIKE BECKY SAID, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY CENTER WAYFINDING SIGN PROGRAM HERE TONIGHT, AND I'M GOING TO TRY AND BE BRIEF.

I'LL GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM, KIND OF WHERE WE STAND NOW AND THEN PROVIDE YOU A BIT OF A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE FUTURE OF THE PROGRAM. AND IF YOU READ THE PACKET MEMO, SPOILER ALERT, WE'RE NOT PROCEED WITH THE PROGRAM.

DO YOU MEAN? I DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ASSUMING.

LIKE I SAID, A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM.

THE ORIGINAL GOAL OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO INSTALL THESE WAYFINDER SIGNS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE HERE.

AND A LOT OF THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THROUGHOUT CITY CENTER AS CITY CENTER DEVELOPED, WE REALLY WANTED TO HELP NEW USERS NAVIGATE NOT ONLY KIND OF THE UNIQUE DESIGN OF CITY CENTER, BUT BE ABLE TO LOCATE SOME OF THE LARGE VARIETY OF BUSINESSES THAT WE EXPECTED AND HAVE SEEN COME TO THE AREA.

SO THE REALLY THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL NEW USERS COULD FIND, FIND WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR HERE IN THE PROGRAM AND KIND OF THE WAY IT WORKS.

BUSINESSES THAT THAT WANTED TO PLACE THEIR LOGO AGAIN AS YOU CAN SEE THE SIX DIFFERENT BUSINESSES ON THE SIGN THERE.

BUSINESSES THAT WANTED TO PLACE THEIR LOGO ON ONE OF THESE SIGNS WOULD WOULD PAY A $500 LICENSING FEE.

THEY COULD PUT THEIR LOGO ON UP TO TWO SIGNS.

SO $500 PER SIGN UP TO $1,000 IF THEY WANTED THE TWO SIGNS FOR A PERIOD OF UP TO TWO YEARS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT TWO YEAR CYCLE WAS OVER, IF THERE WAS INTEREST FROM A NEW BUSINESS TO TO ALSO GO ON THE SIGN THAT THE THE OLDER SIGNS THAT HAD BEEN ON FOR TWO YEARS WOULD BE PULLED OFF AND THE NEW ONE WOULD GO ON.

THIS PROGRAM WAS APPROVED IN 2016.

THE FIRST SIGN ACTUALLY WENT UP IN FEBRUARY OF 2017.

AND BY POLICY, THIS WAS THIS WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO JUST BE A TEMPORARY PROGRAM.

AND BY POLICY, THE PROGRAM WAS MEANT TO RUN FOR SIX YEARS.

SO AS A RESULT, FEBRUARY 2023, THE PROGRAM EXPIRED.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY BECAUSE.

THE PROGRAM IS TECHNICALLY EXPIRED AND IT REQUIRES ACTION BY YOU ALL TO EXTEND THE PROGRAM OR IN ACTION TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP AND CONCLUDE THE PROGRAM.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE SIX OF OUR 14 ORIGINAL PLAN SIGNS UP.

WELL, I GUESS THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY TRUE.

FIVE OF THOSE SIGNS ARE UP. SIX OF THEM HAVE BEEN UP AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATIONS OF THOSE SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN INSTALLED UP THERE ON THE SCREEN.

AND AGAIN, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF NOTES IN THERE ON SOME OF THOSE SIX SIGNS.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONLY ONE SIGN THAT HAS AN ACTIVE LOGO ON IT, MEANING THAT EVERY OTHER LOGO ON THE INSTALLED SIGNS HAS GONE THROUGH THAT TWO TWO YEAR TERM AND IS ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY EXPIRED.

AND SO IF AT ANY POINT WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS, A NEW BUSINESS CAME TO US AND WANTED TO GET ON THE SIGN, WE WOULD HAVE PULLED SOME OF THOSE OFF.

BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED.

AND SO ACTUALLY ONLY ONE OF OUR SIGNS HAS A LOGO THAT'S WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR WINDOW.

ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE ONE SIGN THAT'S ACTUALLY EMPTY.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE SIGN ON SOUTHBOUND RENNER IN CITY CENTER DRIVE ORIGINALLY THAT HAD A LOGO FOR IGNITE WOODFIRE GRILL.

AND WHEN THAT WHEN THAT BUSINESS IS LEFT THEIR LOCATION, THAT LOGO WAS PULLED OFF AND SO THE SIGN IS ACTUALLY EMPTY NOW.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ENDED UP BEING OUR MOST POPULAR SIGN AND SAW THE MOST TURNOVER WAS THE WESTBOUND 87TH AND RENNER SIGN.

THAT WAS THE ONE SIGN THAT WE HAD THAT ACTUALLY HAD SIX LOGOS ON IT.

THE REST OF THEM ONLY HAD HAD FOUR AND WERE A LITTLE SMALLER.

THAT SIGN WAS REMOVED DURING THE 87TH STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

AND BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS EXPIRED, WE HAVEN'T PUT IT BACK UP AGAIN.

BECAUSE OF A VARIETY OF FACTORS, INCLUDING KIND OF INTEREST IN THE PROGRAM, THE TEMPORARY NATURE OF THE PROGRAM, THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM TO BEGIN WITH.

BUT WHAT WE FOUND IN THE LAST FEW YEARS IS KIND OF FADING INTEREST FROM SOME BUSINESSES IN IN THE ACTUAL PROGRAM.

OUR MARKETING EFFORTS HAVE HAVE GOTTEN FEWER AND FEWER AND WE'VE RECEIVED LESS INTEREST IN THOSE MARKETING EFFORTS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND SO IT'S JUST REALLY BEEN MORE DIFFICULT TO TO GET NEW BUSINESSES AND THE KIND OF TURNOVER THAT THAT WE EXPECTED ON THE SIGNS.

LIKE I SAID, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE THAT'S WITHIN THAT TWO YEAR WINDOW.

THE REST HAVE BEEN ON THERE FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNTIL WE TAKE THE SIGNS DOWN.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THAT YOU SIMPLY DO NOTHING AND LET THE LET THE PROGRAM EXPIRE.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO FOLLOW THIS RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD GO PROBABLY NOT TOMORROW, BUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, GO REMOVE ALL OF THE WHAT AMOUNTS TO FOR STANDING SIGNS WITH ALL EXPIRED LOGOS AND THEN LEAVE THE ONE SIGN THAT HAS A LOGO THAT HAS NOT EXPIRED YET UNTIL NOVEMBER 2023, WHEN THAT LOGO EXPIRES, SO WE'VE GOT FOUR SIGNS THAT ARE UP WITH ALL ALL EXPIRED LOGOS, ONE SIGN WITH THE LOGO WITHIN ITS TERM AND THE ONE SIGN THAT WAS REMOVED AND HAS NOT BEEN INSTALLED. SO WITH THAT, UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

ANY QUESTIONS? I PRESUME ANYBODY THAT'S THERE NOW BOUGHT THEIR LICENSE UP FRONT FIVE YEARS AGO, PAID THEIR $500, AND THEY'VE REALLY GOT FIVE YEARS FOR THE PRICE OF TWO UNLESS THEY GOT ADDED LATER.

BUT MOST OF THEM WERE THERE FROM THE BEGINNING.

HAVE WE NOTIFIED ANYBODY THAT WE'RE DOING THIS? NO, AND WE HAVEN'T IN THE PAST.

WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TURNOVER AND IT'S REALLY ONLY BEEN ON THAT 87TH AND RENNER SIGN.

THE REST OF THEM ACTUALLY STILL HAVE SOME SPACES LEFT ON THEM.

AND WHEN WE WHEN THAT TURNOVER OCCURRED AND WE REMOVED SOME OF THE OLDER SIGNS, WE WE JUST TOOK IT DOWN AND.

I BELIEVE IN THE AGREEMENT.

IT SAYS THAT WE WOULD DO THAT AND THAT WE DON'T.

OKAY. AND MAYOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROGRAM, CITY CENTER WAS A DIFFERENT PLACE IN 2016.

AND THE IDEA OF ALL OF THIS DENSITY WAS VERY NEW.

AND THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT BUSINESSES COMING OUT HERE.

HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO FIND US? NOBODY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE EVERYTHING IS HERE NOW.

IT IS IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WORLD, FRANKLY.

AND I THINK THAT THE INTEREST THAT WE'VE SEEN WANING OVER TIME IS AN INDICATION OF THAT.

SO I THINK THIS PROGRAM ABSOLUTELY SERVED ITS PURPOSE, BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A PURPOSE FOR IT ANY LONGER.

I TEND TO AGREE.

I THINK WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO TAKE THE SIGNS DOWN AND GIVE THE LOGOS TO THE PEOPLE THAT PAID FOR THEM, AND THAT WILL BE THEIR NOTICE.

BUT IF THEY'VE HAD CHANGES AND WEREN'T EXPECTING SOMETHING, I'D RATHER JUST NOT HAVE THEM DISAPPEAR AND THEN GET A CALL IN SIX MONTHS.

SAY, WHERE'S THE SIGN? AND I PAID FOR MY LOGO.

KIND OF. YEAH.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE FORM OF THE LOGOS ARE, ARE THEY?

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ARE THEY DECALS? THEY'RE YEAH. THEY'RE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE WILL I'M NOT POSITIVE ON ALL OF THEM, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL STICKERS THAT WE PUT ON BLANK SHEETS THAT, THAT WE FURNISHED WITH THE SIGN.

I DIDN'T MENTION THAT, BUT THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL SIGNS THEMSELVES WERE INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED BY US.

AND THEN THE, THE LOGOS WERE KIND OF A LICENSE ON THOSE.

YEAH, IF IT'S JUST A STICKER, THEN THERE'S NO VALUE THERE.

BUT SOME KIND OF A PLATE OR WHATEVER TO GIVE IT BACK TO THEM.

SO, MELANIE, DID YOU RAISE A FINGER? OKAY. YES.

YEAH. NO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS WILLINGNESS FROM THE CITY TO LOOK AT THESE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE STARTED IN THE PAST AND TO ASSESS IF THEY'RE STILL RELEVANT.

IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, GOOGLE MAPS OR WHATEVER, WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THESE TYPE OF SIGNS ANYMORE.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVEN'T QUITE ONBOARDED TO TECHNOLOGY.

NO JUDGMENT.

JUST CURIOUS.

I OR EVEN MYSELF.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO LIKE SINGLE OUT OTHER PEOPLE.

I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I CAN'T QUITE REACH FOR MY PHONE, BUT THESE VISUAL SIGNS ARE VERY HELPFUL.

WHAT WOULD BE THE DISADVANTAGE TO CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM? YEAH, THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A GREAT ANSWER FOR YOU BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONE WHO DOES MUCH OF THE MAINTENANCE I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO.

I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THAT, KYLE.

I MEAN, THE REALLY THE ONLY DISADVANTAGE IS THAT OVER TIME, THE LOGOS AND THE SIGNS WILL FADE AND WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED AND IT WOULD REQUIRE JUST OUR TIME TO MONITOR THAT AND THEN TO REPLACE THE SIGNS AT THAT TIME WITHOUT INTEREST FROM THE BUSINESSES TO BASICALLY PAY ANOTHER LICENSING FEE TO GIVE US NEW LOGOS.

AT SOME POINT, THEY'RE JUST NO LONGER EFFECTIVE BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE FADED AND WE WON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PAY THE MONEY TO REDO THE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE BUSINESSES LOGOS. THAT'S NOT TODAY BY ANY MEANS.

THEY COULD CERTAINLY STAY THERE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE THEY BECOME FADED.

IT'S REALLY JUST UP TO THE COUNCIL.

BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN INTEREST TO, YOU KNOW, PUT NEW LOGOS ON, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE SORT OF DIMINISHING RETURNS, IF YOU WILL.

YEAH, NO, ACTUALLY, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE SIGN ON 87TH AND RENNER.

THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY POPULAR.

WOULD IT BE WEIRD IF WE ONLY KEPT ONE? WOULD THAT BE FEASIBLE OR WOULD IT FEEL.

THAT'S ACTUALLY THE SIGN THAT'S DOWN RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND REINSTALL THAT.

AND THEN I THINK SEVERAL OF THE LOGOS THAT ARE ON THERE, THEY SORT OF HAVE A GO THIS DIRECTION.

BUT THEN ONCE YOU GO THAT DIRECTION, YOU MAY NEED ANOTHER ANOTHER ARROW TO ACTUALLY GET YOU TO THE THE ACTUAL BUSINESS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

LIKE YOU NEED TO GO STRAIGHT, BUT THEN YOU NEED TO TURN LEFT TO GET TO THE PUBLIC MARKET OR WHATEVER.

SO I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THAT LOGO OR ON THAT SIGN.

AND CODES HAVE BEEN LESS CLUTTER AND LESS SIGNS.

WE HAD SOMETHING NEW HERE WITH CITY CENTER AND ACTUALLY BUSINESS AND NOT IN A TYPICAL STRIP MALL OR WHATEVER WHERE THE SIGNS ARE ALL ABOVE THE DOOR.

IT WAS EASY TO FIND.

WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION SIGNS WHEN WE TEAR UP ROADS AND WE'LL DO SOME WAYFINDING SIGNS AND TEMPORARY FOR THOSE.

BUT I THINK THIS HAS RUN ITS COURSE AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY RELIES ON ME.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE CITY CENTER IS NOW.

AND IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO FIND PLACES WHEN YOU GET IN HERE.

YEAH. NOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE ONE SIGN THAT IS VERY POPULAR AND USEFUL TO THE COMMUNITY OR TO THESE BUSINESSES, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THAT ONE SIGN.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S DOWN RIGHT NOW, BUT YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION AT THE VERY LEAST KEEPING THIS ONE.

ANYBODY HAVE OPINIONS ON KEEPING ONE OR NOT? I THINK IT'S TIME TO THROW THE WHOLE THING OUT AND END IT.

BUT I'M OPEN TO OTHER CONVERSATION BY JOE.

NO, I WOULD AGREE, MAYOR.

I THINK JUST TO HAVE ONE WOULD BE NOT HELPFUL NECESSARILY.

AND I DO THINK PHONES ARE, YOU KNOW, THE REALLY OUR MAPS TODAY.

SO I THINK IT COULD CREATE MORE CONFUSION, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MULTIPLE CHURNS THAT WITH THE ONE WAY STREETS THAT THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

SO I'D BE IN FAVOR OF DOING AWAY WITH ALL SIGNS.

COURTNEY. I THINK WHEN I VISUALIZE THIS, THESE PARTICULAR SIGNS IN CITY CENTER, I THINK WHEN I USE THEM MYSELF, IT'S MOST HELPFUL WHEN THEY'RE OFF THE HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, WHERE AM I TRYING? WHICH EXIT AM I TRYING TO TAKE, WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR?

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AND SO ONCE I GET OFF THE HIGHWAY, I CAN KIND OF SEE THE SIGNAGE AND GET WHERE I NEED TO GO.

I THINK THAT IF THERE'S NOT INTEREST IN THE BUSINESSES, I COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH THIS.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CLUTTER, BUT I ALSO WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO ADD MORE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF 87 STREET, AND MAYBE THOSE SIGNS MIGHT BE HELPFUL WHEN WE PUT UP TWO BIG HOTELS AND WE'VE GOT STUFF THAT'S KIND OF BLOCKING THE OUTER SKIRTS OF WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON CURRENTLY.

AS FAR AS THE FADING GOES AND THINGS ON THE SIGNS, MAYBE IT'S A RENEWAL EVERY TWO YEARS WHERE THEY NEED TO BRING A NEW LOGO OR THEY NEED TO PAY THE MONEY AGAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I COULD GO EITHER WAY WITH IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I FEEL LIKE IT'S NECESSARY AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, BUT I THINK THAT IT COULD BE HELPFUL ONCE CITY CENTER FILLS UP EVEN MORE. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST RESPOND ON ON THE RENEWAL, ONE THING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM THAT WE DIDN'T MENTION IS IT WAS REALLY INTENDED JUST FOR NEW BUSINESSES.

THAT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

AND SO WE DID NOT ALLOW IN THE POLICY FOR THE OPTION TO RENEW NEW BUSINESSES CAN BE ON THE SIGN FOR TWO YEARS.

AND THEN IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT CAME BEHIND THEM, THEY WENT OFF AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPTION TO GO ANY FURTHER BECAUSE THE POINT OF THIS WAS FOR NEW BUSINESSES.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS HAVE BEEN ON THERE FOR CERTAINLY LONGER THAN TWO YEARS, SOME AS MANY AS 5 OR 6 YEARS, AND ONLY PAID THE ONE TWO YEAR LICENSING FEE.

BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE THEM DOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING TO TO REPLACE THEM WITH.

BUT YEAH, WE DIDN'T EVEN REALLY ALLOW FOR THE OPTION TO RENEW EVERY TWO YEARS BECAUSE THE POINT OF THE PROGRAM ORIGINALLY WAS FOR NEW BUSINESSES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING, BUT NOT OUR HEADS TONIGHT.

THIS WON'T COME BACK FOR ACTION.

OKAY. THANK YOU, KYLE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS [INAUDIBLE]? NO, MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT.

OKAY. THIS WILL CONCLUDE THE RECORDED PORTION OF OUR MEETING THIS EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.